Car parking rises are not that big a deal, says Adrian Gregson

Car parking rises in Worcester: defended by the city's leader

Car parking rises in Worcester: defended by the city's leader

First published in News Worcester News: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

The leader of Worcester City Council has defended increased car parking charges – insisting they are designed to encourage people to shop more, not less.

Councillor Adrian Gregson has fought back over criticism on plans to raise fees by saying there is “no evidence” last year’s cuts worked.

“Car parking isn’t the big issue it is being made out to be,” said Coun Gregson.

“There is no evidence the changes made to parking charges in the city last year actually increased income.

“We were told at the time that it could mean £1 million extra revenue, but that hasn’t happened."

One year ago the Conservative administration launched a £1 fee after 7pm at selected sites and reduced rates to as low as 40p for half-an-hour during the day.

The Labour leadership, which took over in May, wants to end both of those tariffs, as well as make small increases elsewhere.

The policy has been heavily attacked by the Conservative group, as well as the Taxpayers Alliance.

Coun Gregson says the 30-minute tariffs were discouraging people to spend more time in the city, the opposite of what Worcester needs.

Copenhagen Street, Cornmarket and Providence Street – the highestturnover car parks – will have their long-stay rates increased, with four hours costing £6 instead of £5.

But at St Martin’s Gate the all-day charge of £3.60 is staying, mainly due to competition from Asda.

Coun Gregson said: “This is a positive strategy which encourages people to stay for longer, and ending the 7pm rate means it will be less confusing.

“St Martin’s Gate is still a good deal, and overall car parking is only one element of a transportation strategy to deal with regeneration, congestion, car speeds, visitor management and so on.”

The measues are due to be put to a vote at full council in February.

The Tory group has described the move as “lunacy” but the Liberal Democrats, whose sole politician in the cabinet is Coun Liz Smith, are not objecting.

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5:00pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Guy66 says...

Well we certainly get what we voted for ....

BUT hang on...

We did no vote for these champagne socialists. The council was a "No clear majority" and should be a coalition not a "secret deals made without the voters input" shambles!
Well we certainly get what we voted for .... BUT hang on... We did no vote for these champagne socialists. The council was a "No clear majority" and should be a coalition not a "secret deals made without the voters input" shambles! Guy66
  • Score: 20

5:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

sitting on the fence gives you piles says...

He should not be in power. Treacherous dealings from a shoddy shower.

Higher parking charges discourage people from shopping in town. I know because I often pop in on Sundays in the knowledge it won't cost much to park.

Get out Gregson. Then try to get elected through the front door this time.
He should not be in power. Treacherous dealings from a shoddy shower. Higher parking charges discourage people from shopping in town. I know because I often pop in on Sundays in the knowledge it won't cost much to park. Get out Gregson. Then try to get elected through the front door this time. sitting on the fence gives you piles
  • Score: 24

6:02pm Fri 17 Jan 14

bmoc55 says...

Comrade Gregson is a screwball if he believes that increasing charges is the answer to the City's cash problem.

How much does he calculate these extra charges will being in?

Some other free thinking City Councils are actually introducing one or two days a week when parking is free. This brings in visitors who will spend.

Get real Gregson and hire yourself someone who understands economics.
Comrade Gregson is a screwball if he believes that increasing charges is the answer to the City's cash problem. How much does he calculate these extra charges will being in? Some other free thinking City Councils are actually introducing one or two days a week when parking is free. This brings in visitors who will spend. Get real Gregson and hire yourself someone who understands economics. bmoc55
  • Score: 20

6:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

b1ackb1rd says...

Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free. b1ackb1rd
  • Score: 21

6:48pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Piccolo says...

Adrian Gregson must be living in another world, when you can - as we have in the last few months - go to places like Dorset & parts of Yorkshire & use council run public car parks for nothing or perhaps £1.50 for the whole day. Worcester is not in the class of national tourist attractions which can expect to attract the sort of prices now being levied. Someone needs to wake up.
Adrian Gregson must be living in another world, when you can - as we have in the last few months - go to places like Dorset & parts of Yorkshire & use council run public car parks for nothing or perhaps £1.50 for the whole day. Worcester is not in the class of national tourist attractions which can expect to attract the sort of prices now being levied. Someone needs to wake up. Piccolo
  • Score: 18

7:07pm Fri 17 Jan 14

i-cycle says...

sitting on the fence gives you piles wrote:
He should not be in power. Treacherous dealings from a shoddy shower.

Higher parking charges discourage people from shopping in town. I know because I often pop in on Sundays in the knowledge it won't cost much to park.

Get out Gregson. Then try to get elected through the front door this time.
You helpfully, but inadvertently, put the case for using car park charges to discourage parking and congestion at peak times and encourage their use in the off-peak.

As a cyclist who uses his car about once a week for the weekly shop parking charges hardly affect me, but I also try to shop at off peak times.

Perhaps the City Council should explore the potential in charging different rates depending on when you arrive at the car park.

I'm sure this will be unpopular for some, but of it does help encourage more to leave their cars at home and/or only use them outside the peak period it may actually help reduce the congestion problems everyone os complaining about.
[quote][p][bold]sitting on the fence gives you piles[/bold] wrote: He should not be in power. Treacherous dealings from a shoddy shower. Higher parking charges discourage people from shopping in town. I know because I often pop in on Sundays in the knowledge it won't cost much to park. Get out Gregson. Then try to get elected through the front door this time.[/p][/quote]You helpfully, but inadvertently, put the case for using car park charges to discourage parking and congestion at peak times and encourage their use in the off-peak. As a cyclist who uses his car about once a week for the weekly shop parking charges hardly affect me, but I also try to shop at off peak times. Perhaps the City Council should explore the potential in charging different rates depending on when you arrive at the car park. I'm sure this will be unpopular for some, but of it does help encourage more to leave their cars at home and/or only use them outside the peak period it may actually help reduce the congestion problems everyone os complaining about. i-cycle
  • Score: -15

7:22pm Fri 17 Jan 14

3thinker says...

b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
[quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back. 3thinker
  • Score: 2

10:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

b1ackb1rd says...

3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Actually I live exactly half way between the two.

Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...
[quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Actually I live exactly half way between the two. Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ... b1ackb1rd
  • Score: 9

10:45pm Fri 17 Jan 14

3thinker says...

b1ackb1rd wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Actually I live exactly half way between the two.

Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...
Ahh. Now it makes sense.
Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill.
[quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Actually I live exactly half way between the two. Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...[/p][/quote]Ahh. Now it makes sense. Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill. 3thinker
  • Score: 1

7:11am Sat 18 Jan 14

New Kid on the Block says...

Comrade Gregson has got it wrong again.
High parking charges certainly discourage me from parking in Worcester.
I can't remember the last time I parked my car in Worcester.
I occasionally use my bike to shop in Worcester but if I wish to use the car to carry things I wait until I am somewhere with free parking and shop there.
Comrade Gregson has got it wrong again. High parking charges certainly discourage me from parking in Worcester. I can't remember the last time I parked my car in Worcester. I occasionally use my bike to shop in Worcester but if I wish to use the car to carry things I wait until I am somewhere with free parking and shop there. New Kid on the Block
  • Score: 11

7:45am Sat 18 Jan 14

Small Town says...

Parking. County Hall. Staff. How Much. Free. How Many Spaces. Hundreds. That's OK Then.
Parking. County Hall. Staff. How Much. Free. How Many Spaces. Hundreds. That's OK Then. Small Town
  • Score: 0

9:11am Sat 18 Jan 14

New Kid on the Block says...

Small Town wrote:
Parking. County Hall. Staff. How Much. Free. How Many Spaces. Hundreds. That's OK Then.
When I worked at County Hall there were people from Pershore, Alcester, Eckington, Hereford and Rushwick working in the same office as me. Many of these people needed to travel round the county on business.
Public Transport would have been totally useless for their needs. A car was essential for these people to do their job. Are you suggesting that they should have also had to pay to park it?
I have also worked for a number of firms in the private sector all of which had a car park where you could park for free.
What is wrong with providing decent facilities for your workforce. If you want them to do a good job and work hard you shouild treat them decently.
[quote][p][bold]Small Town[/bold] wrote: Parking. County Hall. Staff. How Much. Free. How Many Spaces. Hundreds. That's OK Then.[/p][/quote]When I worked at County Hall there were people from Pershore, Alcester, Eckington, Hereford and Rushwick working in the same office as me. Many of these people needed to travel round the county on business. Public Transport would have been totally useless for their needs. A car was essential for these people to do their job. Are you suggesting that they should have also had to pay to park it? I have also worked for a number of firms in the private sector all of which had a car park where you could park for free. What is wrong with providing decent facilities for your workforce. If you want them to do a good job and work hard you shouild treat them decently. New Kid on the Block
  • Score: 6

10:04am Sat 18 Jan 14

mrwrighty says...

Who voted this man in. I didn't, he does not have the right to do this.
Who voted this man in. I didn't, he does not have the right to do this. mrwrighty
  • Score: 9

10:40am Sat 18 Jan 14

justmycomments says...

3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit.
[quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit. justmycomments
  • Score: 8

12:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

I see when walking through Worcester yesterday that several stores are having closing down sales due to re-location, but only one was saying relocating to where, so can we see yet more firms leaving this ciyt because of fewer shoppers?. If so to increase car parking is just forcing more shoppers and firms away.Perhaps Adrian has been an Archavist too long. and of course as said he does get parking free at work and play when at the Guildhall. I don't see him walking into town much these days.
I also think that anyone who pays £6 to park all day in one city carpark are mad when you can use the excellent Park & Ride facility for a lot less.
And as said ASDA £1 carparking has / is having a huge impact on this city centre, and not for the good.
I see when walking through Worcester yesterday that several stores are having closing down sales due to re-location, but only one was saying relocating to where, so can we see yet more firms leaving this ciyt because of fewer shoppers?. If so to increase car parking is just forcing more shoppers and firms away.Perhaps Adrian has been an Archavist too long. and of course as said he does get parking free at work and play when at the Guildhall. I don't see him walking into town much these days. I also think that anyone who pays £6 to park all day in one city carpark are mad when you can use the excellent Park & Ride facility for a lot less. And as said ASDA £1 carparking has / is having a huge impact on this city centre, and not for the good. Jabbadad
  • Score: 7

1:34pm Sat 18 Jan 14

psychoflump says...

justmycomments wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit.
^ This. I know the parking charge increase won't affect my shopping visits to Worcester, mostly because I barely go. When I do I generally leave having not been able to find what I wanted to buy and feeling disappointed and frustrated that I wasted my time. I'd rather pay more to go somewhere further afield for the increased probability that it won't be a wasted trip.
[quote][p][bold]justmycomments[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit.[/p][/quote]^ This. I know the parking charge increase won't affect my shopping visits to Worcester, mostly because I barely go. When I do I generally leave having not been able to find what I wanted to buy and feeling disappointed and frustrated that I wasted my time. I'd rather pay more to go somewhere further afield for the increased probability that it won't be a wasted trip. psychoflump
  • Score: 6

9:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

b1ackb1rd says...

3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Actually I live exactly half way between the two.

Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...
Ahh. Now it makes sense.
Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill.
Ha ha ... how wonderfully condescending .

Well, you stick with your interesting little shops with their interesting but limited stock. The minute M&S, the crumbling and smelly Debenhams, the tiny House of Fraser.

Pay your inflated car parking fee, immerse yourself in the interesting shops .... then admit to yourself that you can't buy what you want in Worcester because it's simply a One Horse Town just off the M5.
[quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Actually I live exactly half way between the two. Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...[/p][/quote]Ahh. Now it makes sense. Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ... how wonderfully condescending . Well, you stick with your interesting little shops with their interesting but limited stock. The minute M&S, the crumbling and smelly Debenhams, the tiny House of Fraser. Pay your inflated car parking fee, immerse yourself in the interesting shops .... then admit to yourself that you can't buy what you want in Worcester because it's simply a One Horse Town just off the M5. b1ackb1rd
  • Score: 8

11:34am Sun 19 Jan 14

newike says...

At Asda car park its £1 for 3 hours giving me loads of time to shop in Worcester and be back before the 3 hours are up. This is a hopelessly , badly designed, awkward to use car park. I don't like using it but its cheap. Common sense tells me that if the Worcester car parks were only £1 or even £2 for three hours then most people would use them. £ 6 for 4 hours in the city. Forget it . If I want to be in the city for most of the day then the Park and Ride is cheaper. Hasn't the authority realised they will be on to a loser by raising prices ? Mr Gregson states that the charges are designed to "encourage people to shop more ." He is totally out of touch with reality.
At Asda car park its £1 for 3 hours giving me loads of time to shop in Worcester and be back before the 3 hours are up. This is a hopelessly , badly designed, awkward to use car park. I don't like using it but its cheap. Common sense tells me that if the Worcester car parks were only £1 or even £2 for three hours then most people would use them. £ 6 for 4 hours in the city. Forget it . If I want to be in the city for most of the day then the Park and Ride is cheaper. Hasn't the authority realised they will be on to a loser by raising prices ? Mr Gregson states that the charges are designed to "encourage people to shop more ." He is totally out of touch with reality. newike
  • Score: 11

12:24am Mon 20 Jan 14

CHANDBRUSH says...

Closing park and ride at Perdiswell putting up car parking charges, Taking spaces to build the Hive , Grid lock at certain times Putting up parking charges will kill Worcester.Council buring head in the sand again.
Closing park and ride at Perdiswell putting up car parking charges, Taking spaces to build the Hive , Grid lock at certain times Putting up parking charges will kill Worcester.Council buring head in the sand again. CHANDBRUSH
  • Score: 4

8:39am Thu 23 Jan 14

Bufton Tufton says...

b1ackb1rd wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Actually I live exactly half way between the two.

Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...
Ahh. Now it makes sense.
Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill.
Ha ha ... how wonderfully condescending .

Well, you stick with your interesting little shops with their interesting but limited stock. The minute M&S, the crumbling and smelly Debenhams, the tiny House of Fraser.

Pay your inflated car parking fee, immerse yourself in the interesting shops .... then admit to yourself that you can't buy what you want in Worcester because it's simply a One Horse Town just off the M5.
Here is a person who has not been into Worcester City center for several years. "The minute M&S",? It expanded into the former Woolworth s several years ago and is now approximately twice the size it used to be. Cheltenham M&S is cramped though. All Debenhams and House of Frazier stores are similar though, a collection of designer brand outlets sharing the same floorspace.

Local councils have little idea when it comes to attracting shoppers. Look at the naff Christmas lights that go up at the beginning off November. That aggressive mouthy shopping queen woman "off the telly" was commissioned by the government to write a report and one of her recommendations was free parking. Empty shops equal no business rates for the council even if they lose out on parking revenue. What do the idiots who run Leominster then do after the report was issued with much publicity and press coverage? Introduce parking charges in the one free short term car park near the town center, and also close the public loos. Its not so much the parking charges, bearing in mind the running costs per mile of a car, parking charges do not amount to very much, but its the convenience, or lack of same. I don't bother to stop of in Leominster anymore when passing near by, to grab a quick coffee and/or use the loos and maybe buy some other items while I'm there because scrabbling around for coins to stick in a machine for 30 mins or so, and then having to keep an eye on the time, is stressful and just not worth the bother. Nor is setting up payment by mobile phone.
[quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Actually I live exactly half way between the two. Have a wild guess what plays a big part in our decision making ...[/p][/quote]Ahh. Now it makes sense. Personally I'd still prefer the character and variety of smaller shops offered in Worcester, but I appreciate people have different preferences. Enjoy your shopping in Merry Hill.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ... how wonderfully condescending . Well, you stick with your interesting little shops with their interesting but limited stock. The minute M&S, the crumbling and smelly Debenhams, the tiny House of Fraser. Pay your inflated car parking fee, immerse yourself in the interesting shops .... then admit to yourself that you can't buy what you want in Worcester because it's simply a One Horse Town just off the M5.[/p][/quote]Here is a person who has not been into Worcester City center for several years. "The minute M&S",? It expanded into the former Woolworth s several years ago and is now approximately twice the size it used to be. Cheltenham M&S is cramped though. All Debenhams and House of Frazier stores are similar though, a collection of designer brand outlets sharing the same floorspace. Local councils have little idea when it comes to attracting shoppers. Look at the naff Christmas lights that go up at the beginning off November. That aggressive mouthy shopping queen woman "off the telly" was commissioned by the government to write a report and one of her recommendations was free parking. Empty shops equal no business rates for the council even if they lose out on parking revenue. What do the idiots who run Leominster then do after the report was issued with much publicity and press coverage? Introduce parking charges in the one free short term car park near the town center, and also close the public loos. Its not so much the parking charges, bearing in mind the running costs per mile of a car, parking charges do not amount to very much, but its the convenience, or lack of same. I don't bother to stop of in Leominster anymore when passing near by, to grab a quick coffee and/or use the loos and maybe buy some other items while I'm there because scrabbling around for coins to stick in a machine for 30 mins or so, and then having to keep an eye on the time, is stressful and just not worth the bother. Nor is setting up payment by mobile phone. Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 2

8:49am Thu 23 Jan 14

Bufton Tufton says...

justmycomments wrote:
3thinker wrote:
b1ackb1rd wrote:
Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.
So let me try and understand your economic logic.
You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high.
You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.
Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit.
So Worcester has nothing to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend with its Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Do you think middle class shoppers never patronise poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls ? Its the chavs you will find in Argos and the flashy perfume and handbag departments.
[quote][p][bold]justmycomments[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b1ackb1rd[/bold] wrote: Correct, increased parking charges DOES encourage me to shop more ... In Merry Hill where parking is free.[/p][/quote]So let me try and understand your economic logic. You won't shop in Worcester because parking costs are too high. You prefer to spend 1 hour 20 mins or more driving 56 miles to Merry Hell and back.[/p][/quote]Worcester has very little to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend. Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Not exactly as Cheltenham or Birmingham. It's simply a waste of my time driving into Worcster for little benefit.[/p][/quote]So Worcester has nothing to offer the middle class shopper with money to spend with its Poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls. Do you think middle class shoppers never patronise poundlands, charity shops, mobile phone shops, travel agents and bakers selling sausage rolls ? Its the chavs you will find in Argos and the flashy perfume and handbag departments. Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 5

10:15am Thu 23 Jan 14

MJI says...

Worcester simply does not have a wide range of shops.

We had a really good HiFi and home cinema shop - gone.

We had two decent model shops - gone.

Do you want to modify your car? That shop went years ago.

Buy a video game - well we are now down to one small crowed shop with limited stock.

As a better example go to Cheltenham and there is a discount HiFi shop very near one of the countries better model shops.
Worcester simply does not have a wide range of shops. We had a really good HiFi and home cinema shop - gone. We had two decent model shops - gone. Do you want to modify your car? That shop went years ago. Buy a video game - well we are now down to one small crowed shop with limited stock. As a better example go to Cheltenham and there is a discount HiFi shop very near one of the countries better model shops. MJI
  • Score: -1

3:00pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

It seems that Adrian Gregson is again demonstrating his grasp on the needs of this City. If he can't recognise the connections between the Public (who spend the money hereafter called shoppers) and cars which shoppers use to carry shopping back home from the local stores, he is definately in the wrong job. Perhaps he could ponder on WHY the Out Of Town Shopping Centres like Blackpole, are doing so well, and suprise suprise, who's car parks are frequently full?
It seems that Adrian Gregson is again demonstrating his grasp on the needs of this City. If he can't recognise the connections between the Public (who spend the money hereafter called shoppers) and cars which shoppers use to carry shopping back home from the local stores, he is definately in the wrong job. Perhaps he could ponder on WHY the Out Of Town Shopping Centres like Blackpole, are doing so well, and suprise suprise, who's car parks are frequently full? Jabbadad
  • Score: 2

3:29pm Thu 23 Jan 14

uptonX says...

The damage the insane actions of Gregson causes to Worcester with these moronic policies is immense. He seems to always say and do the exact opposite of what makes sense and is for the good of the City.
Surely there must be a way to get rid of him.
The damage the insane actions of Gregson causes to Worcester with these moronic policies is immense. He seems to always say and do the exact opposite of what makes sense and is for the good of the City. Surely there must be a way to get rid of him. uptonX
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