Worcester people are "fed up" of being asked for money, says politician

Worcester News: Councillor Alan Amos, from the Labour Party Councillor Alan Amos, from the Labour Party

A WORCESTER politician wants to drive street collectors out of the city - saying shoppers are fed up "of being milked" for cash.

Councillor Alan Amos, who represents Warndon, says people in Worcester are being "subjected" to requests for money from tin wavers, volunteers and so called 'chuggers' that work for charity.

It comes as the city council has just agreed that a raft of organisations should have permission to ask people for donations in Worcester.

Eight bodies have secured permission from the city's licensing committee to be in Worcester, including St Richard's Hospice, the Rotary Club, the RSPCA, St John's Ambulance, the Royal British Legion Poppy Appeal and Marie Curie Cancer Care.

The list also includes the British Heart Foundation and End Polio, which aims to tackle Polio around the world.

Coun Amos says he has nothing against the charities, but is worried about the council allowing them all to stand in the streets with buckets asking for cash.

He said: "We can't keep on asking the people of Worcester like this, we're miking people for money and they are getting fed up of it.

"There's people in the streets with tins and cans, people with direct debits, we're subjecting people to something that seems very unfair."

His comments, made during a licensing committee meeting, were refuted by other politicians.

Councillor Ken Carpenter said: "We are not asking anyone to give anything to anybody."

Councillor Paul Denham, the chairman, said: "People can do what they want, some will give money to one charity and others may not - we cannot make moral decisions about one charity or another."

The city council says it hands out a maximum of 35 street licences a year, and in each case the organisation can only do it in Worcester once.

They are barred from collecting on Sundays, and in some calendar years the council gets less than 35 applications anyway.

Last February the city council banned face-to-face charity street collectors - known as chuggers - from Worcester apart from on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

Only four collectors can be in the whole of Worcester at any one time, and are restricted to just parts of the High Street or the area between Argos and M&S in The Shambles.

The eight street collector licences are for people with buckets, rather than those who want to sign passers-by up to direct debits.

What do you think? Are you fed up of being asked for money? Call 01905 742248 or email te@worcesternews.co.uk.

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9:37am Thu 20 Feb 14

nevermindeh says...

Too right,they seem to be a constant force to deal with.I have nothing against charity collections as such but there is a limit. Crowngate is becoming an absolulute nightmare. You are approached going in,give cash and then they stop you again as you leave! The worst one I encountered was the soldiers.... I gave money on the way in,got halfway down to Iceland and remembered I had intended to pop into the Optician.I went back and was stopped again and on returning toward Iceland I was stopped again. As if that was'nt enough.as i was'nt able to get a particular item from there I again had to double back.......yes,thats right...I was approached again!! No more. I now don't give to any of them except the yearly poppy seller and I look for him
Too right,they seem to be a constant force to deal with.I have nothing against charity collections as such but there is a limit. Crowngate is becoming an absolulute nightmare. You are approached going in,give cash and then they stop you again as you leave! The worst one I encountered was the soldiers.... I gave money on the way in,got halfway down to Iceland and remembered I had intended to pop into the Optician.I went back and was stopped again and on returning toward Iceland I was stopped again. As if that was'nt enough.as i was'nt able to get a particular item from there I again had to double back.......yes,thats right...I was approached again!! No more. I now don't give to any of them except the yearly poppy seller and I look for him nevermindeh

9:53am Thu 20 Feb 14

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

Keep your eyes down and walk right past - if you make eye-contact, you are doomed!
Keep your eyes down and walk right past - if you make eye-contact, you are doomed! Arthur Blenkinsop

9:54am Thu 20 Feb 14

mrwrighty says...

Maybe they could look closer to home. Increased parking charges, increased Council Tax etc. Yes we are all fed up with you wanting our money.
Maybe they could look closer to home. Increased parking charges, increased Council Tax etc. Yes we are all fed up with you wanting our money. mrwrighty

9:57am Thu 20 Feb 14

High Time says...

I think because Crown Gate is private property they would not come under the council rules and any charity collecting in there would not need a licence.
I think because Crown Gate is private property they would not come under the council rules and any charity collecting in there would not need a licence. High Time

10:14am Thu 20 Feb 14

Robot 3021 says...

"Fed up of"... good grief.
"Fed up of"... good grief. Robot 3021

10:35am Thu 20 Feb 14

MJI says...

Buckets and charity tins no problem but those people accosting you for direct debits, please bu**er off!
Buckets and charity tins no problem but those people accosting you for direct debits, please bu**er off! MJI

11:45am Thu 20 Feb 14

CJH says...

Robot 3021 wrote:
"Fed up of"... good grief.
You beat me to it! Bad Grammar...up with which I will not put!
[quote][p][bold]Robot 3021[/bold] wrote: "Fed up of"... good grief.[/p][/quote]You beat me to it! Bad Grammar...up with which I will not put! CJH

1:34pm Thu 20 Feb 14

green49 says...

Stop charities cold calling aswell **** nuisance they are, we cannot give to them all.
Stop charities cold calling aswell **** nuisance they are, we cannot give to them all. green49

2:09pm Thu 20 Feb 14

CHANDBRUSH says...

Whatpeople are fedup with is being milked by the Council knot charity collectors you have a choice with them not with paying for Councils money waste.
Whatpeople are fedup with is being milked by the Council knot charity collectors you have a choice with them not with paying for Councils money waste. CHANDBRUSH

3:02pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PaulMeUnder says...

Just say no thanks, its easy!
Just say no thanks, its easy! PaulMeUnder

3:03pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Sulis76 says...

I may be wrong in my thinking but these collections are effectively a business which you're paying towards, even though you're not receiving a service/goods in return, so if these activities are operating on, say the High Street or The Shambles, doesn't this class as trading on the highway, which is illegal if the collectors don't have a license? If it is, then don't the council's highways department have the power to act to stop unauthorised trading on public roads? If I stuck my car on the highway and advertised it for sale, I'm sure I'd soon have a visit from the authorities.
I may be wrong in my thinking but these collections are effectively a business which you're paying towards, even though you're not receiving a service/goods in return, so if these activities are operating on, say the High Street or The Shambles, doesn't this class as trading on the highway, which is illegal if the collectors don't have a license? If it is, then don't the council's highways department have the power to act to stop unauthorised trading on public roads? If I stuck my car on the highway and advertised it for sale, I'm sure I'd soon have a visit from the authorities. Sulis76

3:35pm Thu 20 Feb 14

longpete says...

Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people - and the occasional animal - who need help. In a civilised country, those people would get their help from society through a tax system that had those most able to pay paying the most.

However, for the last 35 years, successive governments have turned the British people from being a caring society into being a bunch of greedy, self-centred whiners who complain more about charity collectors than they do about the underlying problems that cause those charities to exist in the first place. And for whom every penny of tax is a penny they consider stolen by the government or council.

Carry on whining, people. Until you're the one who needs the hospice, or Alzheimer's care, or your PTSD son comes back, with no support, from doing the oil companies' and Haliburton's bidding in Afganistan.

Or maybe you could get a life.
Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people - and the occasional animal - who need help. In a civilised country, those people would get their help from society through a tax system that had those most able to pay paying the most. However, for the last 35 years, successive governments have turned the British people from being a caring society into being a bunch of greedy, self-centred whiners who complain more about charity collectors than they do about the underlying problems that cause those charities to exist in the first place. And for whom every penny of tax is a penny they consider stolen by the government or council. Carry on whining, people. Until you're the one who needs the hospice, or Alzheimer's care, or your PTSD son comes back, with no support, from doing the oil companies' and Haliburton's bidding in Afganistan. Or maybe you could get a life. longpete

5:47pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Pocahontas says...

I think 'longpete', you are missing the point. It's not that we don't want to give to charity. I have done plenty of fundraising over the last 5 years, raising over £2500 for various charities and I still hate having tins and buckets waved at me in the street or when I leave a supermarket or when I walk through a shopping centre. I hate it nearly as much as having to watch images of children close to dying on my tv screen, knowing full well that my £2 per month will mostly be spent on admin!!
I think 'longpete', you are missing the point. It's not that we don't want to give to charity. I have done plenty of fundraising over the last 5 years, raising over £2500 for various charities and I still hate having tins and buckets waved at me in the street or when I leave a supermarket or when I walk through a shopping centre. I hate it nearly as much as having to watch images of children close to dying on my tv screen, knowing full well that my £2 per month will mostly be spent on admin!! Pocahontas

6:09pm Thu 20 Feb 14

nevermindeh says...

Pocahontas wrote:
I think 'longpete', you are missing the point. It's not that we don't want to give to charity. I have done plenty of fundraising over the last 5 years, raising over £2500 for various charities and I still hate having tins and buckets waved at me in the street or when I leave a supermarket or when I walk through a shopping centre. I hate it nearly as much as having to watch images of children close to dying on my tv screen, knowing full well that my £2 per month will mostly be spent on admin!!
Well said!!
[quote][p][bold]Pocahontas[/bold] wrote: I think 'longpete', you are missing the point. It's not that we don't want to give to charity. I have done plenty of fundraising over the last 5 years, raising over £2500 for various charities and I still hate having tins and buckets waved at me in the street or when I leave a supermarket or when I walk through a shopping centre. I hate it nearly as much as having to watch images of children close to dying on my tv screen, knowing full well that my £2 per month will mostly be spent on admin!![/p][/quote]Well said!! nevermindeh

7:17pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PaulMeUnder says...

longpete wrote:
Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people - and the occasional animal - who need help. In a civilised country, those people would get their help from society through a tax system that had those most able to pay paying the most.

However, for the last 35 years, successive governments have turned the British people from being a caring society into being a bunch of greedy, self-centred whiners who complain more about charity collectors than they do about the underlying problems that cause those charities to exist in the first place. And for whom every penny of tax is a penny they consider stolen by the government or council.

Carry on whining, people. Until you're the one who needs the hospice, or Alzheimer's care, or your PTSD son comes back, with no support, from doing the oil companies' and Haliburton's bidding in Afganistan.

Or maybe you could get a life.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]longpete[/bold] wrote: Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people - and the occasional animal - who need help. In a civilised country, those people would get their help from society through a tax system that had those most able to pay paying the most. However, for the last 35 years, successive governments have turned the British people from being a caring society into being a bunch of greedy, self-centred whiners who complain more about charity collectors than they do about the underlying problems that cause those charities to exist in the first place. And for whom every penny of tax is a penny they consider stolen by the government or council. Carry on whining, people. Until you're the one who needs the hospice, or Alzheimer's care, or your PTSD son comes back, with no support, from doing the oil companies' and Haliburton's bidding in Afganistan. Or maybe you could get a life.[/p][/quote]Well said! PaulMeUnder

8:55pm Fri 21 Feb 14

DarrenM says...

"Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people "

I think you'll find the majority of "chuggers" are paid, in many cases by limited companies who cream a % off the donations as an "admin" fee.

Afghanistan has no known oil reserves either?
"Good grief. These people are there, giving up their free time, collecting money for people " I think you'll find the majority of "chuggers" are paid, in many cases by limited companies who cream a % off the donations as an "admin" fee. Afghanistan has no known oil reserves either? DarrenM

10:09am Sat 22 Feb 14

dcobo1727 says...

Yes we are fed up being asked for money all the,what does the council do with it ?
Yes we are fed up being asked for money all the,what does the council do with it ? dcobo1727

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