LiveLIVE NEWS: Decision time over who controls Worcester City Council

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Worcester News: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

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8:56pm

8:55pm Tue 3 Jun 14

truth must out says

Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amos.

8:55pm

8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 14

skychip says

What a fiasco it sounds.

8:55pm

8:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

WorcsPhil says

Margaret Layland wrote:
Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....
Independent? From where I'm sitting it looks like a case of 'once a Tory, always a Tory'

8:55pm

Thanks for following tonight, I've got to write up my piece for tomorrow's Worcester News. 

To recap, a sensational coup has seen the Conservatives seize control of the City council from Labour, with Simon Geraghty back as leader for a second spell, the only man in history to do so. 

The Tories won by 18 votes to 17, with Labour leader Adrian Gregson losing a 'no confidence' motion and his entire Labour cabinet axed. 

Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester amid sensational scenes. 

 

8:48pm

We've just had the cabinet announced and it's all Tory: 

Deputy leader Marc Bayliss, Andy Roberts cleaner and greener, David Wilkinson safer and stronger, Chris Mitchell finance and Lucy Hodgson customer services. 

8:42pm

The Conservatives have taken control of Worcester City Council tonight with the support of Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday and is now the Mayor of Worcester. 

8:38pm

The Tories got support from Alan Amos, giving them 18 with Labour, the lone Lib Dem and single Green voting against. 

8:36pm

We have another vote and Tory Simon Geraghty is elected NEW City council leader 18-17 

8:35pm

Gregson AXED as leader 

8:35pm

BREAKING: leader Adrian Gregson 'no confidence' motion is PASSED 18-17 after Amos votes with the Tories 

8:33pm

We are voting right now....

8:31pm

Tory Marc Bayliss counters, saying Labour put up council tax and parking charges which "directly contradicts" Labour's national cost of living campaign. 

8:28pm

Labour's Richard Udall directly insults Alan Amos, saying "you used to care" to gasps on the Tory side. 

8:26pm

Denham pleads not to allow "the dark clouds of selfishness and austerity to roll over the City" by chucking her party out of power. 

8:23pm

All heating up now, Labour's Matthew Lamb calls it a "tragedy" if Labour are booted out, and colleague Lynn Denham says Gregson took over "a tired administration" and deserves to stay in place. 

8:18pm

Deputy Labour City council leader Geoff Williams, who is also on the verge of being axed tonight, lists all kind of achievements like High Street repaving, giving staff the Living Wage, affordable housing, the City of Culture bid preparations, and more. 

8:15pm

Gregson says "a return to the dark age beckons" if the Tories take over. "Be warned," he rails. 

8:14pm

Adrian Gregson is on his feet and defends Labour's record, saying he is pushing regeneration, new housing, and is sorting out the finances.

8:11pm

Tory group deputy leader Marc Bayliss calls the Labour leadership's ideas "potty", says they are "obsessed" with keeping services in house and did "unpopular" things like increase parking charges. 

8:05pm

Alan Amos says he will be a "people's Mayor" and a minute later, we are onto the motion of 'no confidence' in leader Adrian Gregson. 

8:00pm

There is now a vote and Tory Roger Knight is the new deputy Mayor of Worcester 19-16, with support from a Green Neil Laurenson, Amos and the Tories. 

7:57pm

7:49pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Shropshirelad says

What a turn up for the book, the Labourites, the lone Green and the poor Lib Dem have been well and truly "Hoisted by their own Petard". Not a Tory myself but under the circumstances - if there was any justice in local politics then it was here tonight with Alan Amos being made Mayor of the City. A bad game played by Labour and the two from the minnow parties and the treachery of Labour has well rebounded on them - suitable reward also for increasing Council Tax which would have set them off on the Labourite national habit of tax and spend. lol.

7:57pm

Labour's Lynn Denham says with Riaz, it's been a "long time since the City had a deputy Mayor young enough to have school-age children", backing him. 

7:52pm

There is now a call for a deputy Mayor, Labour suggest Jabba Riaz - as we predicted last week. The Tories suggest Roger Knight, so we'll have another vote. 

7:45pm

We are still on Cllr Agar's barnstorming speech, she is playing a glowing tribute of her own to Worcester and it's people. 

7:37pm

Pat Agar is now delivering a first class speech on her time as Mayor. She calls her time "an honour and a privilege". 

7:32pm

Amazing events here. Amos is in the chair as the new Mayor of Worcester and retiring Mayor Pat Agar is now getting warm tributes. 

 

 

7:28pm

Amos takes the chains and says he is "well aware" of what being the Mayor means. 

7:25pm

All 15 Labour, one Green and one Lib Dem all vote against him but it's not enough to prevent Alan Amos becoming Mayor. Cries of "disgraceful" in my ear but also a lot of applause. 

7:22pm

BREAKING Alan Amos becomes the new Mayor of Worcester after a 18-17 vote. 

7:20pm

We are now voting....

 

7:19pm

Tory Roger Knight says there is "no better time to elect an independent Mayor" given the fine balance of the council. Some howls and gasps from Labour. 

7:18pm

Conservative Andy Roberts defends Amos, saying he "gets it" and has an "outstanding record" as a councillor. 

7:14pm

Labour deputy leader Geoff Williams says the entire integrity of the council is at stake. He pleads with Amos not to back a Tory administration and to forget his Mayoral bid. 

7:09pm

Incredible start. The Conservatives say Alan Amos, who left Labour on Sunday to become an 'independent', should be the Mayor. Adrian Gregson is already on his feet trying to back Paul Denham. 

7:07pm

We are now underway and onto the election of a new Mayor, Labour suggest Paul Denham and the Tories counter by putting forward Alan Amos! 

7:00pm

The Tories are looking relaxed, Labour apprehensive. Alan Amos hasn't said a word to any Labour councillors, all of whom are on his left hand side in the chamber. 

6:55pm

Now at the Guildhall and the tension is building as councillors file in, Alan Amos has arrived and is sat next to Lib Dem Liz Smith. 

He looks a man under pressure. 

5:51pm

Evening all, it's decision time: a new administration for 2014/15 is being voted in at Worcester City Council tonight.

There are 17 Tory councillors at the Guildhall, 15 Labour, one Green and one Lib Dem, as well as the new independent Alan Amos.

If the Conservatives get just one more vote, it will give them 18 - enough to take over control of the council from Labour.

Any other permutation will see Labour hold on to control, even in the result of a 17-17 tie in the event of one politician abstaining.

Current leader Councillor Adrian Gregson is fighting for his political career, and faces a Tory 'no confidence' motion which could see him ousted.

Tonight will also see a new Mayor of Worcester voted in for the next 12 months, taking over the chains from Cllr Pat Agar.

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7:49pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Shropshirelad says...

What a turn up for the book, the Labourites, the lone Green and the poor Lib Dem have been well and truly "Hoisted by their own Petard". Not a Tory myself but under the circumstances - if there was any justice in local politics then it was here tonight with Alan Amos being made Mayor of the City. A bad game played by Labour and the two from the minnow parties and the treachery of Labour has well rebounded on them - suitable reward also for increasing Council Tax which would have set them off on the Labourite national habit of tax and spend. lol.
What a turn up for the book, the Labourites, the lone Green and the poor Lib Dem have been well and truly "Hoisted by their own Petard". Not a Tory myself but under the circumstances - if there was any justice in local politics then it was here tonight with Alan Amos being made Mayor of the City. A bad game played by Labour and the two from the minnow parties and the treachery of Labour has well rebounded on them - suitable reward also for increasing Council Tax which would have set them off on the Labourite national habit of tax and spend. lol. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

kwooster says...

Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads?
Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads? kwooster
  • Score: 4

8:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Margaret Layland says...

Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....
Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent..... Margaret Layland
  • Score: 18

8:17pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Voice of the Voyager says...

Way to go Amos! Spike the guns of the Green and LD, who thought they had the power in their hands, and could demand without denial. Brilliant flanking move, and end up Mayor in the process!! Though Paul Denham should serve as Mayor at some point, in having done deputy this year. So, to attain Mayoral office, you now need to cross the floor, it appears...is this politics, or a soap opera...coming soon from the Guildhall, the next edition of....
Way to go Amos! Spike the guns of the Green and LD, who thought they had the power in their hands, and could demand without denial. Brilliant flanking move, and end up Mayor in the process!! Though Paul Denham should serve as Mayor at some point, in having done deputy this year. So, to attain Mayoral office, you now need to cross the floor, it appears...is this politics, or a soap opera...coming soon from the Guildhall, the next edition of.... Voice of the Voyager
  • Score: 7

8:33pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Voice of the Voyager says...

The political equivalent of Frosch V Groves - unfinished business..

Reading this is like being in a nursery school - pathetic, anything to get power from all sides. How people come out in their true colours....

The rats all clambering onto the sinking ship...vote for None of the Above...
The political equivalent of Frosch V Groves - unfinished business.. Reading this is like being in a nursery school - pathetic, anything to get power from all sides. How people come out in their true colours.... The rats all clambering onto the sinking ship...vote for None of the Above... Voice of the Voyager
  • Score: -1

8:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

WorcsPhil says...

Margaret Layland wrote:
Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....
Independent? From where I'm sitting it looks like a case of 'once a Tory, always a Tory'
[quote][p][bold]Margaret Layland[/bold] wrote: Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....[/p][/quote]Independent? From where I'm sitting it looks like a case of 'once a Tory, always a Tory' WorcsPhil
  • Score: 3

8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 14

skychip says...

What a fiasco it sounds.
What a fiasco it sounds. skychip
  • Score: 2

8:55pm Tue 3 Jun 14

truth must out says...

Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amos.
Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amos. truth must out
  • Score: 6

8:58pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Voice of the Voyager says...

We've just had the cabinet announced and it's all Tory:

Deputy leader Marc Bayliss, Andy Roberts cleaner and greener, David Wilkinson safer and stronger, Chris Mitchell finance and Lucy Hodgson customer services.
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Groan. The same old recycled names...until the next defection, coming soon to a Guildhall near you...
We've just had the cabinet announced and it's all Tory: Deputy leader Marc Bayliss, Andy Roberts cleaner and greener, David Wilkinson safer and stronger, Chris Mitchell finance and Lucy Hodgson customer services. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Groan. The same old recycled names...until the next defection, coming soon to a Guildhall near you... Voice of the Voyager
  • Score: 6

9:00pm Tue 3 Jun 14

PeterNielsen says...

It seems that it was more important for the Labour group to stop Alan Amos from becoming deputy Mayor than to keep control the Council. Losers again.
It seems that it was more important for the Labour group to stop Alan Amos from becoming deputy Mayor than to keep control the Council. Losers again. PeterNielsen
  • Score: 3

9:04pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Worcester Lad says...

Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself.
Wonder if anyone will investigate?
Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself. Wonder if anyone will investigate? Worcester Lad
  • Score: 9

9:08pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Shropshirelad says...

truth must out says...

Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amo

That is the cost of supporting a treacherous party who try to make a 5 minute newcomer to the party, Deputy Mayor before loyalty to their existing councillors. If ever a party "had it coming" - it was Worcester Labour Party - a complete shambles without any plan, strategy or foresight whatsoever. Their tactics in almost everything they put their minds to were disastrous and they do not deserve any kind of political office or responsibility. Justice has been well served tonight.
truth must out says... Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amo That is the cost of supporting a treacherous party who try to make a 5 minute newcomer to the party, Deputy Mayor before loyalty to their existing councillors. If ever a party "had it coming" - it was Worcester Labour Party - a complete shambles without any plan, strategy or foresight whatsoever. Their tactics in almost everything they put their minds to were disastrous and they do not deserve any kind of political office or responsibility. Justice has been well served tonight. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Voice of the Voyager says...

Poor Neil - so close to being The Man of the Moment... and now faded back into obscurity as an also ran...that's politics - a smile on both faces, with a pat on the back only reconnaissance for the knife blade...remember that young lad, when you get tempted to join coup d'etats in the future...
Poor Neil - so close to being The Man of the Moment... and now faded back into obscurity as an also ran...that's politics - a smile on both faces, with a pat on the back only reconnaissance for the knife blade...remember that young lad, when you get tempted to join coup d'etats in the future... Voice of the Voyager
  • Score: 5

9:15pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Voice of the Voyager says...

Worcester Lad wrote:
Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself.
Wonder if anyone will investigate?
No one, but a move straight out of the Book of Mandelson....classic
...
[quote][p][bold]Worcester Lad[/bold] wrote: Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself. Wonder if anyone will investigate?[/p][/quote]No one, but a move straight out of the Book of Mandelson....classic ... Voice of the Voyager
  • Score: 7

9:44pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Spetchley Dave says...

Margaret Layland wrote:
Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....
A Tory administration propped up by "independent" former Labour Councillors who fell out with the Labour party and exacted their revenge by backing the other team in a NOC Council...

It is de ja vu all over again isn't it Margaret, only last time it was yourself and Mike Layland who were the former Labour "independants" keeping the Tories in power.

But that is politics, a dirty game played by people who are only promoting their own self-interest. Is it any wonder so many of the general populus are turned off from the whole thing and don't bother voting at all.

Yes Amos is a disgrace, but then so was Riaz. Both swapped sides to get what they wanted for themselves.

With the Tories back in control of Worcester we can look forward to seeing more services being cut or outsourced but lower car parking charges and a council tax freeze. It remains to be seen if this is a good thing for this city or not, but the atmosphere in the Council Chamber is going to be poisonous for some time after tonight's events.
[quote][p][bold]Margaret Layland[/bold] wrote: Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....[/p][/quote]A Tory administration propped up by "independent" former Labour Councillors who fell out with the Labour party and exacted their revenge by backing the other team in a NOC Council... It is de ja vu all over again isn't it Margaret, only last time it was yourself and Mike Layland who were the former Labour "independants" keeping the Tories in power. But that is politics, a dirty game played by people who are only promoting their own self-interest. Is it any wonder so many of the general populus are turned off from the whole thing and don't bother voting at all. Yes Amos is a disgrace, but then so was Riaz. Both swapped sides to get what they wanted for themselves. With the Tories back in control of Worcester we can look forward to seeing more services being cut or outsourced but lower car parking charges and a council tax freeze. It remains to be seen if this is a good thing for this city or not, but the atmosphere in the Council Chamber is going to be poisonous for some time after tonight's events. Spetchley Dave
  • Score: 4

10:10pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Stuart 1 says...

kwooster wrote:
Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads?
just remember whose head is pinned above the door of the Guildhall!!
[quote][p][bold]kwooster[/bold] wrote: Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads?[/p][/quote]just remember whose head is pinned above the door of the Guildhall!! Stuart 1
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Stuart 1 says...

Margaret Layland wrote:
Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....
it isn't over until it is over!! - even the Chief Exec seemed surprised!
[quote][p][bold]Margaret Layland[/bold] wrote: Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....[/p][/quote]it isn't over until it is over!! - even the Chief Exec seemed surprised! Stuart 1
  • Score: 0

10:59pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Time vans says...

Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it!
Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it! Time vans
  • Score: 2

11:26pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Stuart 1 says...

Time vans wrote:
Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it!
.... how very sad, and very cynical. All the councillors I know regardless of politics do it to serve, there is no financial reward at this level. Cllr Amos is a good man, and will make a fine Mayor - sometimes people make difficult decisions - and no doubt he had a heavy heart knowing the flack he will take.
[quote][p][bold]Time vans[/bold] wrote: Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it![/p][/quote].... how very sad, and very cynical. All the councillors I know regardless of politics do it to serve, there is no financial reward at this level. Cllr Amos is a good man, and will make a fine Mayor - sometimes people make difficult decisions - and no doubt he had a heavy heart knowing the flack he will take. Stuart 1
  • Score: -10

11:35pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Jabbadad says...

Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. .
But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others.
As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester.
Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. . But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others. As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester. Jabbadad
  • Score: -8

11:52pm Tue 3 Jun 14

thompson9100 says...

Time van is right.

All this bs about labour putting up council tax. Yes they did, but so did the Tory controlled County council! Think people have short memories or don't read their bills.

After reading more about Amos, I'm not surprised, but with his past record what on earth was on Worcester Labour Party's mind accepting him as a candidate? It's really such a mess and a travesty of modern politics.
Time van is right. All this bs about labour putting up council tax. Yes they did, but so did the Tory controlled County council! Think people have short memories or don't read their bills. After reading more about Amos, I'm not surprised, but with his past record what on earth was on Worcester Labour Party's mind accepting him as a candidate? It's really such a mess and a travesty of modern politics. thompson9100
  • Score: 8

12:12am Wed 4 Jun 14

CT Rock says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. .
But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others.
As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester.
Just the same situation as when Jabba Riaz crossed the floor to the red side when he didn't get his way in Battenhall.

What's good for the goose...
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. . But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others. As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester.[/p][/quote]Just the same situation as when Jabba Riaz crossed the floor to the red side when he didn't get his way in Battenhall. What's good for the goose... CT Rock
  • Score: 7

6:39am Wed 4 Jun 14

Worcester Lad says...

Younger voters in Worcester probably know him only as a local Labour councillor, recently in the news for trying to twin the venerable cathedral city with Gaza. But those with longer memories will recall a very different political animal - a right-wing Tory MP who once advocated flogging for rapists and muggers and birching for young offenders. This is a small extract from an article entitled Total Politics ,where are they now by Paul Linford 22nd Nov 2010 Makes interesting reading.Have a look
Younger voters in Worcester probably know him only as a local Labour councillor, recently in the news for trying to twin the venerable cathedral city with Gaza. But those with longer memories will recall a very different political animal - a right-wing Tory MP who once advocated flogging for rapists and muggers and birching for young offenders. This is a small extract from an article entitled Total Politics ,where are they now by Paul Linford 22nd Nov 2010 Makes interesting reading.Have a look Worcester Lad
  • Score: 3

7:29am Wed 4 Jun 14

Jabbadad says...

And he's the CONservative choice for The highest post in this city as Mayor.
Just about spells out true CONservatism eh?
And he's the CONservative choice for The highest post in this city as Mayor. Just about spells out true CONservatism eh? Jabbadad
  • Score: -3

7:58am Wed 4 Jun 14

Pomygranit says...

Vote now for who is the lowest of the low:

Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego
or
Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency.

Both have brought the whole council into disrepute

Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester.
Mayor, First Citizen? A joke
Vote now for who is the lowest of the low: Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego or Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency. Both have brought the whole council into disrepute Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester. Mayor, First Citizen? A joke Pomygranit
  • Score: 8

8:14am Wed 4 Jun 14

Worcester Lad says...

Pomygranit wrote:
Vote now for who is the lowest of the low:

Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego
or
Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency.

Both have brought the whole council into disrepute

Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester.
Mayor, First Citizen? A joke
Hear Hear
[quote][p][bold]Pomygranit[/bold] wrote: Vote now for who is the lowest of the low: Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego or Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency. Both have brought the whole council into disrepute Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester. Mayor, First Citizen? A joke[/p][/quote]Hear Hear Worcester Lad
  • Score: 7

8:28am Wed 4 Jun 14

The Villan says...

What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'.

There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others.

No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others.

They all want to grow up!
What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'. There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others. No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others. They all want to grow up! The Villan
  • Score: 6

8:32am Wed 4 Jun 14

High Time says...

Welcome to the real world of politics folks. Last night's drama was a re run of last year's Council annual meeting when the minority Labour group on the Council took control. The Lib Dems changed sides after supporting the Tories the previous year. It could be argued that the Tories have more of a right to run the council with more Councillors and more votes won at the last election than Labour.
Welcome to the real world of politics folks. Last night's drama was a re run of last year's Council annual meeting when the minority Labour group on the Council took control. The Lib Dems changed sides after supporting the Tories the previous year. It could be argued that the Tories have more of a right to run the council with more Councillors and more votes won at the last election than Labour. High Time
  • Score: 8

8:57am Wed 4 Jun 14

ray1111 says...

KARMA , raiz wants to have a safe seat , become mayor , cynically changes parties .... Labour insult a good councillor of theirs of 12 years standing to make way for riaz ambitions ....Due to gregson's arrogance the tories are now in power Amos is mayor ! Riaz would have had a better change at being mayor if he had stayed with his original party.
KARMA , raiz wants to have a safe seat , become mayor , cynically changes parties .... Labour insult a good councillor of theirs of 12 years standing to make way for riaz ambitions ....Due to gregson's arrogance the tories are now in power Amos is mayor ! Riaz would have had a better change at being mayor if he had stayed with his original party. ray1111
  • Score: 9

8:59am Wed 4 Jun 14

ray1111 says...

The Villan wrote:
What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'.

There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others.

No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others.

They all want to grow up!
like the labour said to riaz , join our gang and be mayor after 5 minutes ? all as bad and cynical as each other..
[quote][p][bold]The Villan [/bold] wrote: What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'. There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others. No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others. They all want to grow up![/p][/quote]like the labour said to riaz , join our gang and be mayor after 5 minutes ? all as bad and cynical as each other.. ray1111
  • Score: 5

9:40am Wed 4 Jun 14

imustbeoldiwearacap says...

And we wonder why the young cannot be bothered to vote! Yet another two-faced politician prepared to sacrifice his principles????? for the "greater glory" of being mayor!
And we wonder why the young cannot be bothered to vote! Yet another two-faced politician prepared to sacrifice his principles????? for the "greater glory" of being mayor! imustbeoldiwearacap
  • Score: 8

10:01am Wed 4 Jun 14

snailmale says...

These people, supposedly elected to serve the community, seem totally obsessed with their own egos and infantile power games. They treat us,the electorate, as if we are idiots, which of course we are because we re-elect them year after year.
These people, supposedly elected to serve the community, seem totally obsessed with their own egos and infantile power games. They treat us,the electorate, as if we are idiots, which of course we are because we re-elect them year after year. snailmale
  • Score: 8

10:02am Wed 4 Jun 14

denon says...

But....this is real politics.......peopl
e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..
But....this is real politics.......peopl e don't like coalitions compromises. I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done.. denon
  • Score: 0

10:14am Wed 4 Jun 14

High Time says...

denon wrote:
But....this is real politics.......peopl

e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..
The difference between Mike Leyland and Alan Amos was Mike was elected on a independent ticket in Nunnery and Alan was elected as a Labour party candidate in Warndon.
[quote][p][bold]denon[/bold] wrote: But....this is real politics.......peopl e don't like coalitions compromises. I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..[/p][/quote]The difference between Mike Leyland and Alan Amos was Mike was elected on a independent ticket in Nunnery and Alan was elected as a Labour party candidate in Warndon. High Time
  • Score: 7

10:26am Wed 4 Jun 14

snailmale says...

denon wrote:
But....this is real politics.......peopl

e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..
'Real Politics' is probably one of the main reasons why most people can''t be bothered to vote at local elections.
[quote][p][bold]denon[/bold] wrote: But....this is real politics.......peopl e don't like coalitions compromises. I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..[/p][/quote]'Real Politics' is probably one of the main reasons why most people can''t be bothered to vote at local elections. snailmale
  • Score: 2

10:29am Wed 4 Jun 14

FranklyFrank says...

None of this would have happened if 1) Labour had not had all-woman shortlists (this has now been part of the reason for three Labour councillors leaving the party) and b) the Lib-Dems had kept to their 2 year agreement to support a Conservative minority administration instead of breaking their word half way through.

I spoke at length to Alan Amos recently and although he was totally fed up with the Worcester Labour Party control freakery I thought he would stick with them-but the promise to Jabba Riaz was obviously the last straw.

To those posters who express surprise that someone on the Left would support a Conservative admin. I would point to the Warndon community centre in Shap Drive which was transformed by the Conservative city & county councils. The previous Conservative city council also began supporting apprenticeships. In private Labour councillors agree that these were positive things, but of course will not admit it in public.
None of this would have happened if 1) Labour had not had all-woman shortlists (this has now been part of the reason for three Labour councillors leaving the party) and b) the Lib-Dems had kept to their 2 year agreement to support a Conservative minority administration instead of breaking their word half way through. I spoke at length to Alan Amos recently and although he was totally fed up with the Worcester Labour Party control freakery I thought he would stick with them-but the promise to Jabba Riaz was obviously the last straw. To those posters who express surprise that someone on the Left would support a Conservative admin. I would point to the Warndon community centre in Shap Drive which was transformed by the Conservative city & county councils. The previous Conservative city council also began supporting apprenticeships. In private Labour councillors agree that these were positive things, but of course will not admit it in public. FranklyFrank
  • Score: 5

5:15pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Jabbadad says...

Pray tell me when Warndon was CONservative apart from the Elite Hodgsonville of Warndon of course ,
And so denon please get your facts right, MIke Layland had left the Labour party well before he stood as an Independent at Nunnery in fact that was when due to George & Joyce Drew also former true Labour, members the Association of Independents was formed.
Pray tell me when Warndon was CONservative apart from the Elite Hodgsonville of Warndon of course , And so denon please get your facts right, MIke Layland had left the Labour party well before he stood as an Independent at Nunnery in fact that was when due to George & Joyce Drew also former true Labour, members the Association of Independents was formed. Jabbadad
  • Score: -4

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