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Time vans 10:59pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it!

Score: 2
snailmale 10:01am Wed 4 Jun 14

These people, supposedly elected to serve the community, seem totally obsessed with their own egos and infantile power games. They treat us,the electorate, as if we are idiots, which of course we are because we re-elect them year after year.

Score: 8
Voice of the Voyager 8:17pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Way to go Amos! Spike the guns of the Green and LD, who thought they had the power in their hands, and could demand without denial. Brilliant flanking move, and end up Mayor in the process!! Though Paul Denham should serve as Mayor at some point, in having done deputy this year. So, to attain Mayoral office, you now need to cross the floor, it appears...is this politics, or a soap opera...coming soon from the Guildhall, the next edition of....

Score: 7
CT Rock 12:12am Wed 4 Jun 14

Jabbadad wrote…


Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. .
But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others.
As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester.

Just the same situation as when Jabba Riaz crossed the floor to the red side when he didn't get his way in Battenhall.

What's good for the goose...

Score: 7
High Time 8:32am Wed 4 Jun 14

Welcome to the real world of politics folks. Last night's drama was a re run of last year's Council annual meeting when the minority Labour group on the Council took control. The Lib Dems changed sides after supporting the Tories the previous year. It could be argued that the Tories have more of a right to run the council with more Councillors and more votes won at the last election than Labour.

Score: 8
WorcsPhil 8:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Margaret Layland wrote…


Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....

Independent? From where I'm sitting it looks like a case of 'once a Tory, always a Tory'

Score: 3
Shropshirelad 7:49pm Tue 3 Jun 14

What a turn up for the book, the Labourites, the lone Green and the poor Lib Dem have been well and truly "Hoisted by their own Petard". Not a Tory myself but under the circumstances - if there was any justice in local politics then it was here tonight with Alan Amos being made Mayor of the City. A bad game played by Labour and the two from the minnow parties and the treachery of Labour has well rebounded on them - suitable reward also for increasing Council Tax which would have set them off on the Labourite national habit of tax and spend. lol.

Score: 1
Worcester Lad 9:04pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself.
Wonder if anyone will investigate?

Score: 9
kwooster 8:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads?

Score: 4
Margaret Layland 8:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....

Score: 18
Voice of the Voyager 8:33pm Tue 3 Jun 14

The political equivalent of Frosch V Groves - unfinished business..

Reading this is like being in a nursery school - pathetic, anything to get power from all sides. How people come out in their true colours....

The rats all clambering onto the sinking ship...vote for None of the Above...

Score: -1
skychip 8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 14

What a fiasco it sounds.

Score: 2
truth must out 8:55pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amos.

Score: 6
Voice of the Voyager 8:58pm Tue 3 Jun 14

We've just had the cabinet announced and it's all Tory:

Deputy leader Marc Bayliss, Andy Roberts cleaner and greener, David Wilkinson safer and stronger, Chris Mitchell finance and Lucy Hodgson customer services.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Groan. The same old recycled names...until the next defection, coming soon to a Guildhall near you...

Score: 6
Stuart 1 10:12pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Margaret Layland wrote…


Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....

it isn't over until it is over!! - even the Chief Exec seemed surprised!

Score: 0
PeterNielsen 9:00pm Tue 3 Jun 14

It seems that it was more important for the Labour group to stop Alan Amos from becoming deputy Mayor than to keep control the Council. Losers again.

Score: 3
Shropshirelad 9:08pm Tue 3 Jun 14

truth must out says...

Absolute disgrace....Amos throwing his toys out of the pram to get what he wants. Complete hypocrite, we voted for a Labour councillor and have ended up with an independant and a Tory council. Shame on you Amo

That is the cost of supporting a treacherous party who try to make a 5 minute newcomer to the party, Deputy Mayor before loyalty to their existing councillors. If ever a party "had it coming" - it was Worcester Labour Party - a complete shambles without any plan, strategy or foresight whatsoever. Their tactics in almost everything they put their minds to were disastrous and they do not deserve any kind of political office or responsibility. Justice has been well served tonight.

Score: 5
Voice of the Voyager 9:10pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Poor Neil - so close to being The Man of the Moment... and now faded back into obscurity as an also ran...that's politics - a smile on both faces, with a pat on the back only reconnaissance for the knife blade...remember that young lad, when you get tempted to join coup d'etats in the future...

Score: 5
Voice of the Voyager 9:15pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Worcester Lad wrote…


Alan Amos, who quit Labour on Sunday, voted with the Tories and has become the new Mayor of Worcester .Makes you wonder if a deal had already be done. being an ex Tory himself.
Wonder if anyone will investigate?

No one, but a move straight out of the Book of Mandelson....classic
...

Score: 7
Spetchley Dave 9:44pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Margaret Layland wrote…


Politics is a funny old game! 10 days of wondering which way the Green and Lib Dem would vote. They were King makers. Then a Labour Councillor becomes an Independent.....

A Tory administration propped up by "independent" former Labour Councillors who fell out with the Labour party and exacted their revenge by backing the other team in a NOC Council...

It is de ja vu all over again isn't it Margaret, only last time it was yourself and Mike Layland who were the former Labour "independants" keeping the Tories in power.

But that is politics, a dirty game played by people who are only promoting their own self-interest. Is it any wonder so many of the general populus are turned off from the whole thing and don't bother voting at all.

Yes Amos is a disgrace, but then so was Riaz. Both swapped sides to get what they wanted for themselves.

With the Tories back in control of Worcester we can look forward to seeing more services being cut or outsourced but lower car parking charges and a council tax freeze. It remains to be seen if this is a good thing for this city or not, but the atmosphere in the Council Chamber is going to be poisonous for some time after tonight's events.

Score: 4
Stuart 1 10:10pm Tue 3 Jun 14

kwooster wrote…


Which ones are the Cavaliers, and which ones are the Roundheads?

just remember whose head is pinned above the door of the Guildhall!!

Score: 2
Jabbadad 5:15pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Pray tell me when Warndon was CONservative apart from the Elite Hodgsonville of Warndon of course ,
And so denon please get your facts right, MIke Layland had left the Labour party well before he stood as an Independent at Nunnery in fact that was when due to George & Joyce Drew also former true Labour, members the Association of Independents was formed.

Score: -4
Stuart 1 11:26pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Time vans wrote…


Politics is full of the self serving, interested in self preservation and their own agenda. Not servants of the people who accept public opinion. They rule us, not serve us. There! I said it!

.... how very sad, and very cynical. All the councillors I know regardless of politics do it to serve, there is no financial reward at this level. Cllr Amos is a good man, and will make a fine Mayor - sometimes people make difficult decisions - and no doubt he had a heavy heart knowing the flack he will take.

Score: -10
Jabbadad 11:35pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Amos would not have been among the past Independents since his self satisfying desire to be given position of Mayor as long as he helped to get the CONservatives back in power by cheating the Warndon voters and putting Geraghty back in a position to continue his onslaught on the Vulnerable and Older people of this city. That is what has to be seen as disgraceful the rest played out tonight was politics at it's lowest, And Labour were no better when they proposed Riaz for deputy mayor after 5 minutes labour membership, but at least he went to the voters to get back in. .
But I must correct Spetchley dave, both Margeret and Mike Layland had finished with the City Council before they joined the Independents and were elected as such. They didn't cross over like some politicians taking their votes with them because they hadn't got what it takes to go to the voters again and ask them for their support. There is the difference you cannot in any way compare the Laylands to political cowards such as Bayliss & others.
As to Andy Roberts praise for Amos, he stopped quite short when expressing the mans political history. I am sure more will follow good news for some paper or other, sadly it just might reflect on the genuine voters of Worcester.

Score: -8
thompson9100 11:52pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Time van is right.

All this bs about labour putting up council tax. Yes they did, but so did the Tory controlled County council! Think people have short memories or don't read their bills.

After reading more about Amos, I'm not surprised, but with his past record what on earth was on Worcester Labour Party's mind accepting him as a candidate? It's really such a mess and a travesty of modern politics.

Score: 8
imustbeoldiwearacap 9:40am Wed 4 Jun 14

And we wonder why the young cannot be bothered to vote! Yet another two-faced politician prepared to sacrifice his principles????? for the "greater glory" of being mayor!

Score: 8
Worcester Lad 6:39am Wed 4 Jun 14

Younger voters in Worcester probably know him only as a local Labour councillor, recently in the news for trying to twin the venerable cathedral city with Gaza. But those with longer memories will recall a very different political animal - a right-wing Tory MP who once advocated flogging for rapists and muggers and birching for young offenders. This is a small extract from an article entitled Total Politics ,where are they now by Paul Linford 22nd Nov 2010 Makes interesting reading.Have a look

Score: 3
Jabbadad 7:29am Wed 4 Jun 14

And he's the CONservative choice for The highest post in this city as Mayor.
Just about spells out true CONservatism eh?

Score: -3
Pomygranit 7:58am Wed 4 Jun 14

Vote now for who is the lowest of the low:

Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego
or
Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency.

Both have brought the whole council into disrepute

Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester.
Mayor, First Citizen? A joke

Score: 8
Worcester Lad 8:14am Wed 4 Jun 14

Pomygranit wrote…


Vote now for who is the lowest of the low:

Amos for turning his back on those who elected him for his own vanity and ego
or
Geraghty for having a mayor elected who had been cautioned for a indecency.

Both have brought the whole council into disrepute

Amos should resign he is an embarrassment to Worcester.
Mayor, First Citizen? A joke

Hear Hear

Score: 7
The Villan 8:28am Wed 4 Jun 14

What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'.

There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others.

No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others.

They all want to grow up!

Score: 6
ray1111 8:57am Wed 4 Jun 14

KARMA , raiz wants to have a safe seat , become mayor , cynically changes parties .... Labour insult a good councillor of theirs of 12 years standing to make way for riaz ambitions ....Due to gregson's arrogance the tories are now in power Amos is mayor ! Riaz would have had a better change at being mayor if he had stayed with his original party.

Score: 9
ray1111 8:59am Wed 4 Jun 14

The Villan wrote…


What a complete farce! It reminds me of school yard politics of children.... 'Be in my gang and I'll give you this or that'.

There was obvious a lot of behind the scenes skulduggery by all concerned, including the so-called Kingmaker who wasn't needed in the end, but evidently a good smokescreen for others.

No doubt this saga hasn't ended yet, watch this space, as I wouldn't be surprised if more councillors swap parties to achieve personal gain and spite others.

They all want to grow up!

like the labour said to riaz , join our gang and be mayor after 5 minutes ? all as bad and cynical as each other..

Score: 5
denon 10:02am Wed 4 Jun 14

But....this is real politics.......peopl
e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..

Score: 0
High Time 10:14am Wed 4 Jun 14

denon wrote…


But....this is real politics.......peopl

e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..

The difference between Mike Leyland and Alan Amos was Mike was elected on a independent ticket in Nunnery and Alan was elected as a Labour party candidate in Warndon.

Score: 7
snailmale 10:26am Wed 4 Jun 14

denon wrote…


But....this is real politics.......peopl

e don't like coalitions compromises.
I voted for a party as did every one who voted in the elections because I like their policies
Everyone saw and treated Mike Leyland as a saint and he got the Freedom of The City and he did exactly what Amos has done..

'Real Politics' is probably one of the main reasons why most people can''t be bothered to vote at local elections.

Score: 2
FranklyFrank 10:29am Wed 4 Jun 14

None of this would have happened if 1) Labour had not had all-woman shortlists (this has now been part of the reason for three Labour councillors leaving the party) and b) the Lib-Dems had kept to their 2 year agreement to support a Conservative minority administration instead of breaking their word half way through.

I spoke at length to Alan Amos recently and although he was totally fed up with the Worcester Labour Party control freakery I thought he would stick with them-but the promise to Jabba Riaz was obviously the last straw.

To those posters who express surprise that someone on the Left would support a Conservative admin. I would point to the Warndon community centre in Shap Drive which was transformed by the Conservative city & county councils. The previous Conservative city council also began supporting apprenticeships. In private Labour councillors agree that these were positive things, but of course will not admit it in public.

Score: 5

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