Worcester diner's late-night application thrown out

Worcester News: REFUSED: An application to allow Detroits Diner in Castle Street, Worcester, to stay open later was refused by the city’s licensing committee. REFUSED: An application to allow Detroits Diner in Castle Street, Worcester, to stay open later was refused by the city’s licensing committee.

CONTROVERSIAL plans which could have seen an American-style diner in the centre of Worcester stay open until 12.30am seven days a week have been thrown out.

Detroit’s in Castle Street recently applied to Worcester City Council to be allowed to sell alcohol until midnight and to stay open for an extra half-an-hour, prompting concerns from people living in nearby Severn Terrace and Easy Row.

The restaurant is owned by city businessman Steve Castledine, who also applied to vary its licence conditions so customers are allowed to stay outside until 11pm, provided alcohol is only served to those seated at tables, and children aged 14 and older are allowed in without an adult.

Detroit’s, which opened in the former car dealership in 2011 and hosts music and live comedy nights, currently closes at 9.30pm but is licensed to stay open until 11.30pm.

More than 20 residents attended a meeting of the city council’s licensing sub-committee yesterday, where members were told there had been significant opposition to the plans on grounds including the impact on crime and disorder, increased noise and the effect on the environment.

James Jenner, who lives with his wife and two young daughters, aged six and three, next door to Detroit’s, said he was seriously concerned about the impact of noise from the venue on his children’s sleeping patterns.

“As it stands it’s ok but at 11pm it’s going to be absolutely unbearable,” he said.

“I don’t want my children kept awake – it’s not fair on them.”

But solicitor Amanda Pillinger, representing Mr Castledine who was unable to attend as one of his daughters was unwell, denied accusations the restaurant was attempting to rebrand itself as a late-night bar.

“If Mr Castledine wanted it to be a nightclub the application would be to stay open until 2am, not midnight,” she said.

“The additional time for the sale of alcohol will have a positive impact because it will allow people to wind down after the live music has stopped.”

She added the venue currently had to apply for a temporary event licence every time it wanted to host live music or comedy and the new conditions would mean it no longer needed to do that.

Although the application also included provision to open until 5am on New Year’s Eve, Mrs Pillinger agreed to amend this to 2am.

Council member for Cathedral ward Cllr Lynn Denham said she and people living in the area were concerned the new conditions would be a “slippery slope” to a nightclub-style venue.

The committee voted to refuse the application.

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1:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

obidanshinobi says...

Is this place still ridiculously awful ?
Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad.
Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.
Is this place still ridiculously awful ? Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad. Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc. obidanshinobi
  • Score: 0

4:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

special_one says...

obidanshinobi wrote:
Is this place still ridiculously awful ?
Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad.
Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.
How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?
[quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: Is this place still ridiculously awful ? Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad. Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.[/p][/quote]How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself? special_one
  • Score: 2

6:50pm Fri 4 Jul 14

b1ackb1rd says...

Walk past daily, only staff cars appear to be on the car park ... and I rarely spy customers inside.
Walk past daily, only staff cars appear to be on the car park ... and I rarely spy customers inside. b1ackb1rd
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Fri 4 Jul 14

obidanshinobi says...

special_one wrote:
obidanshinobi wrote:
Is this place still ridiculously awful ?
Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad.
Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.
How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?
Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites.
We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc
[quote][p][bold]special_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: Is this place still ridiculously awful ? Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad. Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.[/p][/quote]How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?[/p][/quote]Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites. We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc obidanshinobi
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Fri 4 Jul 14

truth must out says...

obidanshinobi wrote:
special_one wrote:
obidanshinobi wrote:
Is this place still ridiculously awful ?
Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad.
Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.
How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?
Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites.
We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc
Well I think your opinion counts for absolutely nothing....complete hearsay. It's NOT your opinion you are just using the words of others!! Sheep..
[quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]special_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: Is this place still ridiculously awful ? Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad. Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.[/p][/quote]How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?[/p][/quote]Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites. We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc[/p][/quote]Well I think your opinion counts for absolutely nothing....complete hearsay. It's NOT your opinion you are just using the words of others!! Sheep.. truth must out
  • Score: -1

7:06am Sat 5 Jul 14

WorcsBornandBred says...

Someone's over sensitive!
Someone's over sensitive! WorcsBornandBred
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pinkfluff says...

obidanshinobi wrote:
special_one wrote:
obidanshinobi wrote:
Is this place still ridiculously awful ?
Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad.
Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.
How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?
Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites.
We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc
Agreed, especially if you value your friend's opinions. You were honest and I totally agree that folk can form an opinion without first hand experience.

I've never done a bungee jump and never will but I still think it's a mad thing to do!! lol.
[quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]special_one[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]obidanshinobi[/bold] wrote: Is this place still ridiculously awful ? Not been myself but everyone I know that has described it to be really bad. Cold or barely warm food, slow service, low quality meat, small portions, too expensive for what it is.... etc.[/p][/quote]How can you have an opinion on this place if by your own admission, you have never been for yourself?[/p][/quote]Well my opinion is based on what friends and clients have told me about the place and a little research on review sites. We all have opinions about things we have never experienced, how can you have an opinion about a country if you've never been there, how can you have an opinion on a type of car if you've never driven it etc etc[/p][/quote]Agreed, especially if you value your friend's opinions. You were honest and I totally agree that folk can form an opinion without first hand experience. I've never done a bungee jump and never will but I still think it's a mad thing to do!! lol. pinkfluff
  • Score: 0

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