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Women's 'footbrawl' match under investigation
9:38am Tuesday 20th November 2012 in News By Tarik Al Rasheed
TEAM PHOTO: The Worcester United women's football squad
A WOMEN’S football team from Worcester is under investigation by the FA after their latest fixture was called off amidst ugly scenes.
The match between Worcester United and Marston Green was poised at 0-0 in the 80th minute when a brawl involving players from both sides erupted, forcing the referee to abandon the encounter.
Both clubs must now answer charges of failing to control their players in the top-of- the-table West Midlands Regional Women’s League fixture played at the University of Worcester.
The flare-up stemmed from an off-the-ball incident that saw two opposing players react to each other.
As pushing and shoving began about half a dozen players from each side are understood to have got involved, either in the scuffle or as peacemakers.
Worcester United has not yet answered the charge from Worcester FA but internal action has already been taken, with chairman Ryan O’Connor calling the incident “unacceptable” and suspending two players for the club’s next match, away at Lye Town on Sunday.
He has also issued a club statement “making clear the standards he expects” from everyone at the club.
“We as a club have identified our own failings during this incident, he said.
“We could have controlled the situation better by walking away in the face of provocation.”
Mr O’Connor insisted the events, on Sunday, November 11, were “an isolated incident”, saying disciplinary standards had previously been “exceptionally high with no previous incidents of violent conduct”.
He added: “I believe I have dealt with this fairly and proportionately and we are now looking to move on as a club.”
Chris Dale, discipline manager at Worcester FA, said Worcester United has until Tuesday, November 27, to answer the charge.
He said the range of sanctions the sides could face was “fairly open ended” and that any disciplinary hearings would be held promptly – usually within 14 days of receiving the clubs’ responses.
Nobody from Marston Green was available for comment, but Mike Fellows, discipline manager at Birmingham FA, said the club has until Sunday, December 2, to respond to the charge.
Comments(46)
Arthur Blenkinsop
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10:36am Tue 20 Nov 12
Realistblue
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10:58am Tue 20 Nov 12
WAG2315
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12:42pm Tue 20 Nov 12
johnowat
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1:06pm Tue 20 Nov 12
b1ackb1rd
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1:07pm Tue 20 Nov 12
Respectable
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1:17pm Tue 20 Nov 12
pinkfluff
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1:39pm Tue 20 Nov 12
spider666 wrote:Yawn......not rising to the bait Mr Spider
Wow ---Sounds like they picked the wrong time of the month to play
glen dipple
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1:48pm Tue 20 Nov 12
by,boxing,wrestling,
judo and much more....anybody interested.?....
spider666
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2:02pm Tue 20 Nov 12
pinkfluff wrote:Obviously the right time of the month then ;-)
spider666 wrote:Yawn......not rising to the bait Mr Spider
Wow ---Sounds like they picked the wrong time of the month to play
girlpower!
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2:21pm Tue 20 Nov 12
WAG2315 wrote:the TEAM is not physical... they abide by the rules most of the time (most of the players)... some players do like to break these and obviously have no respect for anyone! this is what lets the team down! it is disgraceful what happened but unless you are there to witness it yourself you have no right to comment at all....
i have heard a rumour,although i dont know how true it is,that both teams may have had have a reputation for physical football and that both teams may have had players sent off before for violent conduct,didnt marston have a player sent off against redditch,and i heard worcester had a player sent off against malvern once.if i am wrong then i hope someone can correct me if i am wrong :-)
other teams are just as physical as the team above.. it is just that this team has been highlighted! certain individuals need to really think about their actions... i feel soo sorry for the players and managers of the team that was not involved as they have been dragged into this mess and should not of!!!!!
WAG2315
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2:44pm Tue 20 Nov 12
makemineadbl
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3:27pm Tue 20 Nov 12
I'm all for women playing hard and tackling for the ball but off the ball incidents and violent retaliation have no place in the game. It all comes down to attitude and self control and if a club know they have volatile players they should be dealt with in a way that would help prevent such behaviour
makemineadbl
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3:27pm Tue 20 Nov 12
I'm all for women playing hard and tackling for the ball but off the ball incidents and violent retaliation have no place in the game. It all comes down to attitude and self control and if a club know they have volatile players they should be dealt with in a way that would help prevent such behaviour
Maggie Would
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3:29pm Tue 20 Nov 12
spider666 wrote:Nice to know sexism is still alive & well in Worcestershire.
Wow ---Sounds like they picked the wrong time of the month to play
glen dipple
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3:51pm Tue 20 Nov 12
girlpower! wrote:you quote " some players do like to break the rules and have no respect for anyone" so why are these players still in the team.?.the manager has imposed a one match ban on 2 players for violent conduct which seems quite a soft punishment.i should imagine that the F.A. will impose a much stronger sentence which will have an effect on the innocent players,after all the F.A. is all about fair play and respect
WAG2315 wrote:the TEAM is not physical... they abide by the rules most of the time (most of the players)... some players do like to break these and obviously have no respect for anyone! this is what lets the team down! it is disgraceful what happened but unless you are there to witness it yourself you have no right to comment at all....
i have heard a rumour,although i dont know how true it is,that both teams may have had have a reputation for physical football and that both teams may have had players sent off before for violent conduct,didnt marston have a player sent off against redditch,and i heard worcester had a player sent off against malvern once.if i am wrong then i hope someone can correct me if i am wrong :-)
other teams are just as physical as the team above.. it is just that this team has been highlighted! certain individuals need to really think about their actions... i feel soo sorry for the players and managers of the team that was not involved as they have been dragged into this mess and should not of!!!!!
girlpower!
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4:05pm Tue 20 Nov 12
WAG2315 wrote:yes they should all of the time but they do not think about their actions do they? they just ruin it for everyone
of course i have a right to comment,especially if its on the front page of the local paper.maybe the worcester news could publish the disciplinary records of all teams in the league,and what,if any fines,had to be paid etc etc."they abide by the rules most of the time",maybe they should try to abide by the rules all of the time and not just when it suits them.still,having said that,maybe i should book myself a place on glen dipples coach for the return fixture,sounds like it could be fun :-)
girlpower!
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4:06pm Tue 20 Nov 12
makemineadbl wrote:i completly agree with this... shame that the manager does not think the same!
WAG2315 you are correct when you say about the history. I played football 10-15 years ago and every encounter with Worcester resulted in at least 1 altercation. I'm all for women playing hard and tackling for the ball but off the ball incidents and violent retaliation have no place in the game. It all comes down to attitude and self control and if a club know they have volatile players they should be dealt with in a way that would help prevent such behaviour
girlpower!
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4:08pm Tue 20 Nov 12
glen dipple wrote:yes... well i think that is soft! there were some other players involved and the fact that they are not punished as well is disgusting and disgraceful.... the F.A should impose a stronger sentence
girlpower! wrote:you quote " some players do like to break the rules and have no respect for anyone" so why are these players still in the team.?.the manager has imposed a one match ban on 2 players for violent conduct which seems quite a soft punishment.i should imagine that the F.A. will impose a much stronger sentence which will have an effect on the innocent players,after all the F.A. is all about fair play and respectWAG2315 wrote: i have heard a rumour,although i dont know how true it is,that both teams may have had have a reputation for physical football and that both teams may have had players sent off before for violent conduct,didnt marston have a player sent off against redditch,and i heard worcester had a player sent off against malvern once.if i am wrong then i hope someone can correct me if i am wrong :-)the TEAM is not physical... they abide by the rules most of the time (most of the players)... some players do like to break these and obviously have no respect for anyone! this is what lets the team down! it is disgraceful what happened but unless you are there to witness it yourself you have no right to comment at all.... other teams are just as physical as the team above.. it is just that this team has been highlighted! certain individuals need to really think about their actions... i feel soo sorry for the players and managers of the team that was not involved as they have been dragged into this mess and should not of!!!!!
pronstar
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4:14pm Tue 20 Nov 12
pronstar
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4:15pm Tue 20 Nov 12
pronstar
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4:16pm Tue 20 Nov 12
ms100192
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6:45pm Tue 20 Nov 12
WAG2315
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9:29pm Tue 20 Nov 12
ROC
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9:47pm Tue 20 Nov 12
ROC
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9:52pm Tue 20 Nov 12
makemineadbl wrote:Hi makemineadbl, Worcester united were created 3 years ago. Think u may be referring to worcester city ladies.
WAG2315 you are correct when you say about the history. I played football 10-15 years ago and every encounter with Worcester resulted in at least 1 altercation.
I'm all for women playing hard and tackling for the ball but off the ball incidents and violent retaliation have no place in the game. It all comes down to attitude and self control and if a club know they have volatile players they should be dealt with in a way that would help prevent such behaviour
ROC
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10:01pm Tue 20 Nov 12
Keith B
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10:16pm Tue 20 Nov 12
Could someone tell the BBC and Labour Party (the same thing arn't they) that this is how most people think in the Country, with a bit of humour.
Take note Mrs Harperson-Dromey and the other Labour harridans.
(The first post was very quick witted and kicked off the discussion in just the right vein)
WAG2315
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10:35pm Tue 20 Nov 12
ROC wrote:mistimed challenge,i could say typical woman,not getting there in time,but i wont :-)
Hi wag, happy to comment - sending off against Malvern was for a mis timed challenge. Can't classify mis timed challenges as violent conduct really - not unless its Eric Cantona doing a Kung fu kick.
spider666
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12:34pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Maggie Would wrote:Not sexism ---fact --- women suffer with PMT
spider666 wrote:Nice to know sexism is still alive & well in Worcestershire.
Wow ---Sounds like they picked the wrong time of the month to play
MrV
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10:50pm Wed 21 Nov 12
Plenty of Mis-timed Tackles
FootballFAN22
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12:49pm Thu 22 Nov 12
ROC wrote:Hi makemineadble Worcester city ladies were founded in 2002 so if you had altercations everytime you played them 10-15 yrs ago that would make it once at most. One thinks you may be exaggerating tut tut!
makemineadbl wrote:Hi makemineadbl, Worcester united were created 3 years ago. Think u may be referring to worcester city ladies.
WAG2315 you are correct when you say about the history. I played football 10-15 years ago and every encounter with Worcester resulted in at least 1 altercation.
I'm all for women playing hard and tackling for the ball but off the ball incidents and violent retaliation have no place in the game. It all comes down to attitude and self control and if a club know they have volatile players they should be dealt with in a way that would help prevent such behaviour
As Worcester united were only founded in 2010 this is a totally different team than the one you may have played 10-15 years ago (we're still not clear whether this team actually existed).
Hey let's blame Manchester city for rooneys violent conduct sending off a few years ago!
FootballFAN22
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12:56pm Thu 22 Nov 12
glen dipple wrote:Hello Mr Dipple, its funny when people make the local news for getting into a spot of bother is it? I'm sure YOU can understand how upsetting it is when your name ends up in the local paper for some kind of wrong doing, especially if it's a little bit more than just a few girls pushing & shoving one another.
i am thinking about getting a coach trip together for the return match at marsden green....a full afternoon of sport planned,football,rug
by,boxing,wrestling,
judo and much more....anybody interested.?....
FootballFAN22
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5:11pm Thu 22 Nov 12
girlpower! wrote:It's me again. Show me a team that abides by all the rules all the time, I guess I'll be waiting until the cows come home for that one. I have never known of this whether it be following the playing rules, code of conduct or even the respect code. These two teams obviously stepped out of line but none of us actually know the ins & outs of what went on that day (with the obvious exception of you girl power) & what lead to the supposed brawl. We should let the fa deal with it after all that's what they're paid for. As for girlpowers statement about having no respect for other players, what respect are you showing to these ladies by one minute standing up for them & the next slagging them off? Do you abide by all the rules? Hmm.
glen dipple wrote:yes... well i think that is soft! there were some other players involved and the fact that they are not punished as well is disgusting and disgraceful.... the F.A should impose a stronger sentence
girlpower! wrote:you quote " some players do like to break the rules and have no respect for anyone" so why are these players still in the team.?.the manager has imposed a one match ban on 2 players for violent conduct which seems quite a soft punishment.i should imagine that the F.A. will impose a much stronger sentence which will have an effect on the innocent players,after all the F.A. is all about fair play and respectWAG2315 wrote: i have heard a rumour,although i dont know how true it is,that both teams may have had have a reputation for physical football and that both teams may have had players sent off before for violent conduct,didnt marston have a player sent off against redditch,and i heard worcester had a player sent off against malvern once.if i am wrong then i hope someone can correct me if i am wrong :-)the TEAM is not physical... they abide by the rules most of the time (most of the players)... some players do like to break these and obviously have no respect for anyone! this is what lets the team down! it is disgraceful what happened but unless you are there to witness it yourself you have no right to comment at all.... other teams are just as physical as the team above.. it is just that this team has been highlighted! certain individuals need to really think about their actions... i feel soo sorry for the players and managers of the team that was not involved as they have been dragged into this mess and should not of!!!!!
I believe this story has been made out to be a lot more than it actually was, I have heard that the away team stayed for food after the match, which was handed to them by the Worcester team. Now if we're to believe there was a 22 woman brawl on the pitch that day I find it highly unlikely that the away team would stay for food, don't you? But hey I guess this is what sells papers!
FootballFAN22
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5:15pm Thu 22 Nov 12
ROC wrote:Ur not Chris ROCKY rock r u?
I can re assure the individual hiding behind girlpower tag that the manager of worcester united takes his standards very seriously. The club are doing everything they can to ensure this is an isolated incident. Your not an ex worcester united player are u???? U seem to know all about us. I think I know who u are - shame I invested allot of my time in you. :-(
CT Rock
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9:43pm Thu 22 Nov 12
FootballFAN22 wrote:I can safely say - that ROC is not me. I have no affiliation of involvement with Worcester United at all.
ROC wrote:Ur not Chris ROCKY rock r u?
I can re assure the individual hiding behind girlpower tag that the manager of worcester united takes his standards very seriously. The club are doing everything they can to ensure this is an isolated incident. Your not an ex worcester united player are u???? U seem to know all about us. I think I know who u are - shame I invested allot of my time in you. :-(
WAG2315
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12:14am Fri 23 Nov 12
FootballFAN22 wrote:in my opinion,it sounds to me like footballfan22 is getting a bit personal towards glen dipple,and,again in my opinion,this proves to me that they cant take a joke and also seem to me that the are trying to divert attention from the headline concerned.i wonder if footballfan22 has some interest in either of the teams involved.and i would also like to know what punishment footballfan22 would like the fa to take against both teams should any charge by the fa be proven
glen dipple wrote:Hello Mr Dipple, its funny when people make the local news for getting into a spot of bother is it? I'm sure YOU can understand how upsetting it is when your name ends up in the local paper for some kind of wrong doing, especially if it's a little bit more than just a few girls pushing & shoving one another.
i am thinking about getting a coach trip together for the return match at marsden green....a full afternoon of sport planned,football,rug
by,boxing,wrestling,
judo and much more....anybody interested.?....
FootballFAN22
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6:38am Fri 23 Nov 12
WAG2315 wrote:Good morning wag, it sounds to me like you have a personal interest in mr Dipple :/ im sure he appreciates you sticking up for him.
FootballFAN22 wrote:in my opinion,it sounds to me like footballfan22 is getting a bit personal towards glen dipple,and,again in my opinion,this proves to me that they cant take a joke and also seem to me that the are trying to divert attention from the headline concerned.i wonder if footballfan22 has some interest in either of the teams involved.and i would also like to know what punishment footballfan22 would like the fa to take against both teams should any charge by the fa be proven
glen dipple wrote:Hello Mr Dipple, its funny when people make the local news for getting into a spot of bother is it? I'm sure YOU can understand how upsetting it is when your name ends up in the local paper for some kind of wrong doing, especially if it's a little bit more than just a few girls pushing & shoving one another.
i am thinking about getting a coach trip together for the return match at marsden green....a full afternoon of sport planned,football,rug
by,boxing,wrestling,
judo and much more....anybody interested.?....
I'll have you know I have a great sense of humour, I laugh at all my jokes.
As for the punishment, I cannot fairly say as None of us were actually there and neither of us have access to either teams match report or the referees interpretation of the events that happened that day, all we have to go by is word of mouth & this newspaper article. Sometimes these sources can expand the truth a little if you know what I mean. Would you suggest a punishment on this basis wag? I think it would be a little unjust. Maybe you know more about the days events than me, so if you do please feel free to pass this information on to us all?
WAG2315
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7:23am Fri 23 Nov 12
FootballFAN22
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7:58am Fri 23 Nov 12
WAG2315 wrote:Wag you asked me what punishment I would like the fa to take on both teams if the charge be proven & I answered this by stating we do not know the ins & outs of the day so it would be unjust to suggest a punishment for either team! I don't see why you've asked this question again.
not sticking up for mr dipple at all,just trying to stick to the article concerned.at no point did i suggest a punishment "on this basis" as you say.i only know about the days events from what ive heard from other people and read in the paper (which has been critical of both teams),and as ive said before,if both charges are proved then both teams should be punished.as ive said before,if any charges are proven what action would you like the fa to take.at no point have i said one or both teams are guilty.also,as ive said before,i wonder if footballfan22 has some interest in either of the teams involved
As you've said before (words that you use a lot) I may have an interest in these teams & the league as a whole but what's your interest in all this? You don't happen to play in another ladies team do you, possibly in the league below? You seem to know a lot about these teams history.
WAG2315
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8:58pm Fri 23 Nov 12
FootballFAN22 wrote:well it was on the front page of the worcester news.in my opinion i think the punishment should be sort it out amongst yourselves in the return match.for some reason i thought you might have some interest in one or both teams involved.i asked the question again as you seem to avoid answering the question,are you female by any chance.my interest is that im interested in football at all levels,and not just glory hunting premier league teams and their glory hunting supporters
WAG2315 wrote:Wag you asked me what punishment I would like the fa to take on both teams if the charge be proven & I answered this by stating we do not know the ins & outs of the day so it would be unjust to suggest a punishment for either team! I don't see why you've asked this question again.
not sticking up for mr dipple at all,just trying to stick to the article concerned.at no point did i suggest a punishment "on this basis" as you say.i only know about the days events from what ive heard from other people and read in the paper (which has been critical of both teams),and as ive said before,if both charges are proved then both teams should be punished.as ive said before,if any charges are proven what action would you like the fa to take.at no point have i said one or both teams are guilty.also,as ive said before,i wonder if footballfan22 has some interest in either of the teams involved
As you've said before (words that you use a lot) I may have an interest in these teams & the league as a whole but what's your interest in all this? You don't happen to play in another ladies team do you, possibly in the league below? You seem to know a lot about these teams history.
FootballFAN22
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7:20am Sat 24 Nov 12
WAG2315
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8:48am Sat 24 Nov 12
Maggie Would
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9:26am Sat 24 Nov 12
spider666 wrote:Really? I don't. Never have. I am grumpy all the time.
Maggie Would wrote:Not sexism ---fact --- women suffer with PMT
spider666 wrote:Nice to know sexism is still alive & well in Worcestershire.
Wow ---Sounds like they picked the wrong time of the month to play
Jannus
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9:49am Sat 24 Nov 12
A: One is a prion mediated bovine spongiform enceplepathy, the other is mad cow disease.
spider666
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5:08pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Jannus wrote:Boom Boom ---good one lol
Q:What's the difference between BSE and PMT?
A: One is a prion mediated bovine spongiform enceplepathy, the other is mad cow disease.
spider666 says...
9:59am Tue 20 Nov 12