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Booze price rise moves met with mixed response

Booze price rise moves met with mixed response

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PLANS to increase the minimum unit price of alcohol have been met with a mixed response in Worcester.

The Home Office is proposing a cost of at least 45p per unit in a bid to tackle problem drinking, put an end to multi-buy offers at supermarkets and off-licences, improve health and reduce crime.

A 10-week consultation has been rolled out with a price 5p higher than suggested by ministers in March.

The ban on cheap booze was not favoured by Toby Scaria, owner of Deeway Stores, Teme Road, Tolladine, Worcester, who was concerned his business would suffer.

He said: “That’s too much, I am not happy with it at all. If it is increased like that then my customers will try to get it somewhere else.

“You are concerned if people can afford it.”

However, Jasbir Singh, owner of Harrys Wines in London Road, welcomed the idea. “Most of my alcohol prices are within that guideline already – at about 40 to 50p.

"It should be a good thing as it would give everybody a reasonable share of the market.”

Mark Haslam, of Camra (Campaign for Real Ale), believes it could be a boost to the struggling pub industry.

“Such a measure would be supportive of pubs because supermarkets are selling alcohol at cost prices or certainly using it as a loss leader.

"The consequences are more people drinking at home and more importantly creating social harm in terms of health and anti-social behaviour.”

The Government believes the price will reduce alcohol consumption by 3.3 per cent, cut the number of crimes by 5,000 per year and hospital admissions by 24,000 as well as there being 700 fewer alcohol-linked deaths annually.

According to the department, the public purse stands to lose about £200 million in excise duty due to falling sales and it would cost £500,000 to enforce the rules.

However, it estimates the health benefits will be worth more than £400 million each year and the reduction in crime nearly £13 million.

Neither NHS Worcestershire nor the Worcestershire Drug and Alcohol Team were able to comment.

l A unit of alcohol is half a pint of standard strength (3.5 per cent) beer, cider or lager, a single 25ml measure of spirit or half a standard 175ml glass of wine.

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8:16am Thu 29 Nov 12

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

Does this mean then, considering that an average pint is about 2.5 units, that the price of my pint will now fall, with tax of course, to about £1.50?
Does this mean then, considering that an average pint is about 2.5 units, that the price of my pint will now fall, with tax of course, to about £1.50? Arthur Blenkinsop
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9:43am Thu 29 Nov 12

mayall8808 says...

It will achieve nothing, the drunks will still drink no matter what and the responsible people will get to shoulder the cost?
If you get blasted (Drunk) its your own doing so if you need medical help or you get involved with the police due to being drunk then you should have to pay in full for the time and treatment you get, the rest of us taxpayers should not be paying for your irresponsibility.
Yes go and have a good time but show some respect to others as well as yourself.
It will achieve nothing, the drunks will still drink no matter what and the responsible people will get to shoulder the cost? If you get blasted (Drunk) its your own doing so if you need medical help or you get involved with the police due to being drunk then you should have to pay in full for the time and treatment you get, the rest of us taxpayers should not be paying for your irresponsibility. Yes go and have a good time but show some respect to others as well as yourself. mayall8808
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9:44am Thu 29 Nov 12

Guy66 says...

The active wording is "at least 45p per unit" - so no your pint will not being reduced in price as it already exceeds the minimum proposed cost per unit :(
The active wording is "at least 45p per unit" - so no your pint will not being reduced in price as it already exceeds the minimum proposed cost per unit :( Guy66
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9:45am Thu 29 Nov 12

Guy66 says...

mayall8808 wrote:
It will achieve nothing, the drunks will still drink no matter what and the responsible people will get to shoulder the cost?
If you get blasted (Drunk) its your own doing so if you need medical help or you get involved with the police due to being drunk then you should have to pay in full for the time and treatment you get, the rest of us taxpayers should not be paying for your irresponsibility.
Yes go and have a good time but show some respect to others as well as yourself.
110% behind this - now where did I put that brandy?
[quote][p][bold]mayall8808[/bold] wrote: It will achieve nothing, the drunks will still drink no matter what and the responsible people will get to shoulder the cost? If you get blasted (Drunk) its your own doing so if you need medical help or you get involved with the police due to being drunk then you should have to pay in full for the time and treatment you get, the rest of us taxpayers should not be paying for your irresponsibility. Yes go and have a good time but show some respect to others as well as yourself.[/p][/quote]110% behind this - now where did I put that brandy? Guy66
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9:54am Thu 29 Nov 12

Hwicce says...

Better stock up quickly at the supermarket before the price goes up.....
Better stock up quickly at the supermarket before the price goes up..... Hwicce
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9:57am Thu 29 Nov 12

cnutcjh says...

Over 1 million alcohol related hospital admissions in the UK in 2010/11.

Isn't it about time people were able to choose a safe alternative to the killer booze, without fear of government stormtroopers kicking their doors in?

Now let me think, what natural, safe, useful & good for you substance could fit the bill? Oh I know, how about legalising cannabis like they're doing in North & South America and various places in Europe?

PS. you know all those bad things government tell you about cannabis? They're lying.....educate yourselves.
Over 1 million alcohol related hospital admissions in the UK in 2010/11. Isn't it about time people were able to choose a safe alternative to the killer booze, without fear of government stormtroopers kicking their doors in? Now let me think, what natural, safe, useful & good for you substance could fit the bill? Oh I know, how about legalising cannabis like they're doing in North & South America and various places in Europe? PS. you know all those bad things government tell you about cannabis? They're lying.....educate yourselves. cnutcjh
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12:02pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Vox populi says...

1.) Those smashed people puking in your town centres at 3am are already paying well above this for their alcohol anyway.

2.) If retailers in bars and clubs increase their prices further to maintain their profit margins they are the only ones who will loose out. Are we in a recession anyone?

3.) It won't reduce drinking

4.) Largest impact is Mr Family man who picks up a bottle of red on the way home on a Friday to drink responsibly with his wife. - Look at the prices and units…

Dare I say it starts with education, parenting and attitude but that’s far harder to tackle than pricing things and making money eh
1.) Those smashed people puking in your town centres at 3am are already paying well above this for their alcohol anyway. 2.) If retailers in bars and clubs increase their prices further to maintain their profit margins they are the only ones who will loose out. Are we in a recession anyone? 3.) It won't reduce drinking 4.) Largest impact is Mr Family man who picks up a bottle of red on the way home on a Friday to drink responsibly with his wife. - Look at the prices and units… Dare I say it starts with education, parenting and attitude but that’s far harder to tackle than pricing things and making money eh Vox populi
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12:52pm Thu 29 Nov 12

pinkfluff says...

Vox populi wrote:
1.) Those smashed people puking in your town centres at 3am are already paying well above this for their alcohol anyway. 2.) If retailers in bars and clubs increase their prices further to maintain their profit margins they are the only ones who will loose out. Are we in a recession anyone? 3.) It won't reduce drinking 4.) Largest impact is Mr Family man who picks up a bottle of red on the way home on a Friday to drink responsibly with his wife. - Look at the prices and units… Dare I say it starts with education, parenting and attitude but that’s far harder to tackle than pricing things and making money eh
Exactly!!! And as Mayall has pointed out any chaos that ensues after a drunken night out should be paid for, including police/paramedic/hos
pital staff time....all of it!

To the pro cannabis group- banging on about it at any given oppertunity is counterproductive. zzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: 1.) Those smashed people puking in your town centres at 3am are already paying well above this for their alcohol anyway. 2.) If retailers in bars and clubs increase their prices further to maintain their profit margins they are the only ones who will loose out. Are we in a recession anyone? 3.) It won't reduce drinking 4.) Largest impact is Mr Family man who picks up a bottle of red on the way home on a Friday to drink responsibly with his wife. - Look at the prices and units… Dare I say it starts with education, parenting and attitude but that’s far harder to tackle than pricing things and making money eh[/p][/quote]Exactly!!! And as Mayall has pointed out any chaos that ensues after a drunken night out should be paid for, including police/paramedic/hos pital staff time....all of it! To the pro cannabis group- banging on about it at any given oppertunity is counterproductive. zzzzzzzzzzzzz pinkfluff
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1:22pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Vox populi says...

British culture based on a 5 day week has always seen people getting smashed on Friday and Saturday nights. It has never changed and probably never will.
The 18 age limit on alcohol becomes a rite of passage along with becoming a student or getting a job…
It’s a culture that is often counter productive, parents prevent their kids from drinking and then they go mad when they look old enough. In French culture a glass of wine with a meal from an earlyish age is the norm - strange they don't have a binge drinking culture like us.

Culture - the hardest thing to change, banning alco pops, raising prices etc is all just noise…

Oh and I would happily see cannabis legalised with the correct measures to test for it in drivers, support and tax its legal sale.
British culture based on a 5 day week has always seen people getting smashed on Friday and Saturday nights. It has never changed and probably never will. The 18 age limit on alcohol becomes a rite of passage along with becoming a student or getting a job… It’s a culture that is often counter productive, parents prevent their kids from drinking and then they go mad when they look old enough. In French culture a glass of wine with a meal from an earlyish age is the norm - strange they don't have a binge drinking culture like us. Culture - the hardest thing to change, banning alco pops, raising prices etc is all just noise… Oh and I would happily see cannabis legalised with the correct measures to test for it in drivers, support and tax its legal sale. Vox populi
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2:04pm Thu 29 Nov 12

worcswolf says...

Haven't the previous governments put cigarettes upto £7 a packet yet this hasn't stopped people smoking, it's probably caused more hardship in poorer families. Better education at a younger age and how about treating adults like adults. If you are an alcoholic putting drink up wont cure you.
Haven't the previous governments put cigarettes upto £7 a packet yet this hasn't stopped people smoking, it's probably caused more hardship in poorer families. Better education at a younger age and how about treating adults like adults. If you are an alcoholic putting drink up wont cure you. worcswolf
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2:30pm Thu 29 Nov 12

New Kid on the Block says...

When the price of a bottle of plonk is increased who gets the extra money?
Do the Supermarkets make even more money or will it go to paying for the nanny state?
When the price of a bottle of plonk is increased who gets the extra money? Do the Supermarkets make even more money or will it go to paying for the nanny state? New Kid on the Block
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5:19pm Thu 29 Nov 12

waddle says...

i am sure that after a short period of monitoring the progress of this experient the conclusion will indeed be that the there as been no improvement in the health of the population vis a vis drinking related issues. Nor will there be any significant reduction in alcohol consumed and so the government will instruct a reversal of edict, maybe even a reduction in the min price per unit to see what that does.! Christmas is coming or what?
i am sure that after a short period of monitoring the progress of this experient the conclusion will indeed be that the there as been no improvement in the health of the population vis a vis drinking related issues. Nor will there be any significant reduction in alcohol consumed and so the government will instruct a reversal of edict, maybe even a reduction in the min price per unit to see what that does.! Christmas is coming or what? waddle
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9:59pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Saturn V says...

Just another tax wearing a costume.

How old is that photo?
Just another tax wearing a costume. How old is that photo? Saturn V
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5:55pm Fri 30 Nov 12

spider666 says...

Will the politicians have to pay more for their little tipples in the Houses of Parliament ? I doubt it very much
Will the politicians have to pay more for their little tipples in the Houses of Parliament ? I doubt it very much spider666
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