Cannabis plans seized from caravan site (From Worcester News)

If this happens within a stones throw of West Mercia HQ, what chance when the police stations are closed?

I got caught with 30 plants in my house in the 1980's and got fined 30 quid...
Still bloody annoyed about it .

We need to stop this stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis. It is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. If we had a properly regulated system of production and supply we'd have no more illegal cannabis farms, instead we'd have thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over the THC and CBD content.

Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an illegal monopoly on cannabis so they make millions out of a medicine that you can grow in your greenhouse for virtually nothing.

If we introduced a legally regulated system we would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, prescription medicines and all other recreational drugs. If anyone does have a problem with it they could get help without having to confess to a crime.

CLEAR published independent, expert research last year which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.

It is a scandal that our government, our judges, our courts, our police and our newspapers keep misleading us about cannabis. Find out the truth for yourself and wake up to the lies you have been told.

Prohibition, the laws on cannabis are immoral and do more harm than good. Look at this officer in the picture, he thinks hes doing a good thing. Little does he know hes a tool of oppression and is contributing to the dangerous, irresponsible economically draining fail that prohibition is.

Any one who would rather criminals control the cannabis market, than the people, are either misinformed, have had their moral compass destroyed or are corrupt.

The war on cannabis users failed long ago, and is only kept alive because of vested interest and political cowardice.

I used to think marijuana is a hard drug, then I found out I have been lied to by my own government all my life. This prohibition does not protecting the people, it does the opposite.

Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

It is our moral responsibility to take the cannabis market out of the hands of criminals. Our taxpayers' money is being wasted on the policing of these criminals who will not stop just because they have been caught. This will simply push them to become more sophisticated and further under ground making society more at risk to criminal activity.

Kate Stenberg
Clear Media Team
Cannabis Law Reform

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

You are very badly misinformed. Sorry for your brother's problems but peanuts cause more health problems than cannabis

Is 29 plants the cut off point for a Farm ?

Having a mate who's been a nurse for 20 years, I can only agree with Whhaasaap! Are you all mad? Carry on smoking Canabis if you like - sure the Government will cover the costs when you're 60 and mad as a hatter! Lol. I like a few (or more!) glasses of wine, but I KNOW it will affect my brain cells. Enjoy your Canabis, but don't deny the facts!

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

It's good that people with the kind of narrow minded point of view such as your own are gradually decreasing to a point where there may actually be some possibility that we can actually have a sensible drug policy in this country.

Busymum2011 wrote:
Having a mate who's been a nurse for 20 years, I can only agree with Whhaasaap! Are you all mad? Carry on smoking Canabis if you like - sure the Government will cover the costs when you're 60 and mad as a hatter! Lol. I like a few (or more!) glasses of wine, but I KNOW it will affect my brain cells. Enjoy your Canabis, but don't deny the facts!

How sick and twisted would one be to think the cannabis market is better off controlled by criminals? Are you insane? A drugs policy is about harm reduction, while people are being thrown in jail for plants, and while dangerous criminals are in control of the market, dangers and harms will continue to rise. Yes, cannabis is not harmless, does that mean harmful substances should be controlled by gangs? By the way, cannabis isnt just safer than alcohol and tobacco, its safer and less toxic than caffeine. Why should non problematic users endure the constant fingerwagging from misinformed reefer madness propaganda indoctrinated prohibitionists like you? Who think they know whats good for everyone else?

If I drink a glass of wine my neighbour does not know. If I smoke a spliff the foul pungent smell of cannabis would readily drift to my neighbours imposing my sad habit upon them. That is the difference.
It often seems to me that those who seek to addle their brain with skunk are somewhat selfish and it is they, by buying skunk, who give sustenance to the criminals.

Babs Stanley wrote:

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

You are very badly misinformed. Sorry for your brother's problems but peanuts cause more health problems than cannabis

Cannabis causes untold harm, to families that have to deal with their loved ones who suffer long term problems. So for those that try and justify its legal use, you are talking nonsense and for those of you, who like me, have spent years dealing with the negative outcomes of drug use I commend you.

Must we have the same argument EVERY time a drug bust story appears in the WN?

People are allowed to have different views. Today I will be mostly stating the obvious.

Really did LOL @ pudniw_gib

wooshman wrote:

Babs Stanley wrote:

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

You are very badly misinformed. Sorry for your brother's problems but peanuts cause more health problems than cannabis

Cannabis causes untold harm, to families that have to deal with their loved ones who suffer long term problems. So for those that try and justify its legal use, you are talking nonsense and for those of you, who like me, have spent years dealing with the negative outcomes of drug use I commend you.

The usual empty assertion. Provide some evidence of "untold harm".

In public health terms cannabis is of no consequence at all. Peanuts cause far more health problems.

HES statistics: cannabis admissions 750 pa, peanut admissions 3000 pa

TDH123 wrote:
If I drink a glass of wine my neighbour does not know. If I smoke a spliff the foul pungent smell of cannabis would readily drift to my neighbours imposing my sad habit upon them. That is the difference.
It often seems to me that those who seek to addle their brain with skunk are somewhat selfish and it is they, by buying skunk, who give sustenance to the criminals.

Based on HES and NTA data adjusted for the number of regular users alcohol is six times more harmful to mental health than cannabis

At the bottom of the article I have little box ads by Google: One asking me if I want to talk to frank about frank, the other is:

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Even Google is waging a war against the police.

Having worked within the canabis enviroment? Whhaasaap is right and those who think otherwise are really know it all but know nothings, yes it may be beneficial to some in medicinal terms but long term harm is usually the outcome, if it works for you then ok but it should be controlled by the doctors not by stupidity.

With reguards to the article hope the guy gets jail due to the other stuff that was found.

An American colleague of mine was a captain in the US army at the time of the Vietnam war. The US entered this war in the 60's at the time of the hippy generation and flower power and all that. The majority of the US ground troops were conscripts who resented being called up to fight in Vietnam. Drug use, mainly cannabis, was rife amongst US troops even though it was a court matial offence. The cannabis available in Vietnam was top grade and was generally known to be supplied by the Vietcong knowing that its use helped to undermine the effectiveness of US troops.
Smoking cannabis on a patrol was quite common but when that patrol came under fire those under the influence of cannabis became a danger to themselves and others. They would generally react in one of three ways, become a quivering wreck, be disorientated and return fire indiscriminantlly or start acting like John Wayne and start "firing from the hip" without taking cover. The John Waynes were the most dangerous and there were occasions when they were shot by there own side as not taking cover allowed the Vietcong to use them as markers for homing in their mortar fire.
It was the opinion of my colleague that cannabis use was either directly or indirectly responsible for up to 40% of the US ground casulties in the Vietnam war - not bad going for a harmless drug is it?.Many of those who used cannabis in Vietnam eventually gave up using it when they realised that being a non-user enhanced their chances of staying alive.
Two years after the Vietnam war ended my colleague left the US army but not before he was called to give evidence to some US senate investigation on the effects of drug use during the Vietnam war, the findings of which will not be made public for 100 years.

TDH123 wrote:
If I drink a glass of wine my neighbour does not know. If I smoke a spliff the foul pungent smell of cannabis would readily drift to my neighbours imposing my sad habit upon them. That is the difference.
It often seems to me that those who seek to addle their brain with skunk are somewhat selfish and it is they, by buying skunk, who give sustenance to the criminals.

Skunk isnt available in the UK, its usually Haze and Cheese. Also, you have no right to tell people what they can or cannot smoke. You do not know better than them, nor do our leaders who have also inhaled.

Do not support a policy that keeps criminals in control of the market.

wooshman wrote:

Babs Stanley wrote:

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

You are very badly misinformed. Sorry for your brother's problems but peanuts cause more health problems than cannabis

Cannabis causes untold harm, to families that have to deal with their loved ones who suffer long term problems. So for those that try and justify its legal use, you are talking nonsense and for those of you, who like me, have spent years dealing with the negative outcomes of drug use I commend you.

“Cannabis has been used safely for many thousands of years…there have been concerted efforts to demonise the drug’s use.” - Professor Tim Kirkham, psychologist, Liverpool University.

“I don’t think it causes mental illness. I have never seen a case of so-called cannabis psychosis.” - Dr Trevor Turner, former vice president of the Royal College of Psychiatrists.

“I don’t see a lot of problem cannabis users…we’re not seeing a lot of cannabis users presenting for treatment.” - Dr Clare Gerada, chair, Royal College of General Practitioners.

mayall8808 wrote:
Having worked within the canabis enviroment? Whhaasaap is right and those who think otherwise are really know it all but know nothings, yes it may be beneficial to some in medicinal terms but long term harm is usually the outcome, if it works for you then ok but it should be controlled by the doctors not by stupidity.

With reguards to the article hope the guy gets jail due to the other stuff that was found.

So you prefer criminals to control the cannabis market? Strange.

Omicron wrote:
An American colleague of mine was a captain in the US army at the time of the Vietnam war. The US entered this war in the 60's at the time of the hippy generation and flower power and all that. The majority of the US ground troops were conscripts who resented being called up to fight in Vietnam. Drug use, mainly cannabis, was rife amongst US troops even though it was a court matial offence. The cannabis available in Vietnam was top grade and was generally known to be supplied by the Vietcong knowing that its use helped to undermine the effectiveness of US troops.
Smoking cannabis on a patrol was quite common but when that patrol came under fire those under the influence of cannabis became a danger to themselves and others. They would generally react in one of three ways, become a quivering wreck, be disorientated and return fire indiscriminantlly or start acting like John Wayne and start "firing from the hip" without taking cover. The John Waynes were the most dangerous and there were occasions when they were shot by there own side as not taking cover allowed the Vietcong to use them as markers for homing in their mortar fire.
It was the opinion of my colleague that cannabis use was either directly or indirectly responsible for up to 40% of the US ground casulties in the Vietnam war - not bad going for a harmless drug is it?.Many of those who used cannabis in Vietnam eventually gave up using it when they realised that being a non-user enhanced their chances of staying alive.
Two years after the Vietnam war ended my colleague left the US army but not before he was called to give evidence to some US senate investigation on the effects of drug use during the Vietnam war, the findings of which will not be made public for 100 years.

Once again, this isnt about getting high, its about ending a war on people who prefer a safer alternative to alcohol.

SuperSilverSourDiese
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wooshman wrote:

Babs Stanley wrote:

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

You are very badly misinformed. Sorry for your brother's problems but peanuts cause more health problems than cannabis

Cannabis causes untold harm, to families that have to deal with their loved ones who suffer long term problems. So for those that try and justify its legal use, you are talking nonsense and for those of you, who like me, have spent years dealing with the negative outcomes of drug use I commend you.

“Cannabis has been used safely for many thousands of years…there have been concerted efforts to demonise the drug’s use.” - Professor Tim Kirkham, psychologist, Liverpool University.

“I don’t think it causes mental illness. I have never seen a case of so-called cannabis psychosis.” - Dr Trevor Turner, former vice president of the Royal College of Psychiatrists.

“I don’t see a lot of problem cannabis users…we’re not seeing a lot of cannabis users presenting for treatment.” - Dr Clare Gerada, chair, Royal College of General Practitioners.

Well in the REAL world have it does.

Stop your bleating pro users it's an illegal drug for a reason.

SuperSilverSourDiese
l;;

You should read this again,
If it works for you then ok but it should be controlled by the doctors not by stupidity.

Or do you prefer to pay criminals for what you get and really have no idea that your getting what you think you are getting? typical response from a user i think? says it all really.

Whhaasaap wrote:
Are you all thick or what, smoking cannabis is very harmful, and if you think not, tell that to my brother who thought the same 20 years ago, and yes he is thick, he now has mental problems and takes medication all paid for by the NHS and claims benefits because he cannot work through suffering schizophrenia after smoking that crap for so long.

So please do not spout your rubbish on this subject just because you want to smoke it without fear of prosecution.

And if you think it will be a magical cure for all the problems associated with legalising drugs then just look at gambling and illegal trades in cigarettes and booze, dream world for some, stop smoking the crap that will solve the problems!

Bravo ---common sense statement at last.Sorry for your brothers predicament,i wish him well

i have found over the years ( i both used and abstained, i still abstain( that if you suffer from a negative reaction to cannabis then it is usually when someone already has underlying mental health issues....sometimes the issues have not been diagnosed so when they finally are then they are attributed to cannabis use. just saying my experience of it!

I thought I would leave this one alone for a few days. Just to give the Stoners a chance to wake up, We all know the standard issue Stoner Response when something like this happens,it's the same script everytime, maybe they dont realise they have already said it time and time again. I have witnessed the effects of long time canabis abuse, and it's such a shame when people with so much to offer end up a shodow of what they could have been.

You Smoke ****
You Talk ****.

There is no direct link between cannabis use and schizophrenia, It's a shame that so many people have been misinformed about cannabis. There is a direct positive correlation between the consumption of fluoride and schizophrenia but no one seems to care that it is put in your drinking water. Prohibition is simply creating a market for new synthetic drugs that have an even more damaging effect then most illegal drugs. There are thousands of people who use cannabis and don't have any negative side effects. It is time to take the cannabis market out of the hands of criminals and inform people properly of the true negative effects of this medicine. Its time for a change, it is simply inevitable.

Kate Stenberg
Clear Media Team
Cannabis Law Reform

"There are thousands of people who use cannabis and don't have any negative side effects."

There are also thousands of people who use cannabis and DO have side effects.

Let me rephrase that for you: -

There are millions of people around the world who use cannabis with no negative side effects.

There is a relatively small percentage of people for whom not only cannabis but other substances, notably alcohol, are best avoided in view of their underlying predisposition to mental illness that these substances may be a trigger for.

Cigarette smoking causes an estimated 443,000 deaths each year,
Each year 5,000 to 10,000 people die prematurely from alcohol abuse,
Marijuana is illegal but has never caused any deaths from usage,
Cigarettes and alcohol kill & they are legal and can be purchased anywhere.
If you smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. You are not in a position to criticize weed smokers.

"Marijuana is illegal but has never caused any deaths from usage"

NEVER?????
That's not believable is it?

Omicron wrote:
"Marijuana is illegal but has never caused any deaths from usage"

NEVER?????
That's not believable is it?

It's a fact

I used to like having a smoke but stopped when I wanted to give up tobacco.
Last had a pipe about a year ago and it was most pleasant, but it wasn't modern strong weed which I find too heavy to enjoy.
Many of my peers smoke or have smoked and very few have mental health issues, I have friends who never have smoked who are on medication for mental problems that require help.
I think people are just as likely to have mental health problems whether they smoke or not, just that if they drink, smoke or take other substances it makes it worse.