First thumbs-up for £13 million Worcester swimming pool

Swimming pool plans move a step closer

Swimming pool plans move a step closer

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Worcester News: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

A NEW £13 million swimming pool for Worcester has moved a step closer - with the city’s planning chiefs giving it their first thumbs-up.

An outline application has been approved by the planning committee, paving the way for the next phase of the ambitious project.

Under the proposal a new “county standard” facility will be built on land next to the existing Perdiswell Leisure Centre containing an eight lane, 25 metre pool.

It includes 415 parking spaces, a creche, soft play areas, a gym, exercise studios, wet and dry changing rooms, party or exhibition room, cafe and viewing gallery.

Bosses also hope to include a learner pool and ‘confidence water’ for toddlers looking to have a splash for the first time.

During a meeting of the city council’s planning committee this afternoon members unanimously backed it, paving the way for a detailed final application to be voted on once arrangements are made for financing it.

During the debate some politicians called for a careful think over how it will be paid for, amid concerns it could require millions of pounds in borrowing.

The estimates are that it will cost anywhere from £10 million to £13 million.

Councillor Aubrey Tarbuck said: “This has got to be a commercially viable proposition - the citizens of Worcester will be paying for this for years to come, so it has to be right.”

There were concerns raised over parking, with some politicians doubting whether 415 spaces would be enough.

Councillor Alan Amos said: “We’ve got a funny attitude to leisure facilities - when people go to these places they drive there, run up and down on a machine which takes you absolutely nowhere and then drive back.

“Are we really satisfied 415 spaces is enough? If anything this will generate more traffic, not less - we want this pool to be used, and if people can’t get there because there’s nowhere to park, they won’t go.”

During the debate they were also told there would be 45 cycle spaces, buses running by regularly and improvements to the surrounding routes to make them more cycle-friendly.

Councillor Paul Denham said: “To me, the arrangements look pretty good - the county’s highways team has done a lot of work on sustainable travel.”

The committee backed the scheme, but wants the authority to take another look at the re-positioning of the current playground on the site so it does not sit next to the car park.

Under the proposal, the current Perdiswell facility will be demolished once the new facility is open.

Bosses estimate it will open in February 2016, subject to the approval of a business case, final planning approval and the support of a majority of city councillors.

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5:59pm Thu 24 Jan 13

DarrenM says...

13 million pounds? I thought they kept beating about how they were bankrupt and having to cut back on jobs and services?, More information needed on which snouts are in this particular trough I think.
13 million pounds? I thought they kept beating about how they were bankrupt and having to cut back on jobs and services?, More information needed on which snouts are in this particular trough I think. DarrenM
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7:09pm Thu 24 Jan 13

i-cycle says...

As a member of the public I was also at the Planning Committee today. I sat next to Tom Edwards as he was selectively tweeting and adding his own 'spin' on his 'live report'.

Funny (not!) how the press always try and put a controversial slant on things even when none exists.

I was impressed by the level of debate about the new swimming pool. There were no dissenting voices from any party or Councillor and the result speaks for itself.

The vote to support the planning application was unanimous. They as your elected representatives obviously consider the pool to be a worthwhile investment in Worcester's future. So why is the Worcester News trying to undermine their good intentions.

From what I saw today Worcester residents have a good set of politicians looking after their interests. Its a pity that the local press is going out of its way to be controversial and undermine them.

Have the press not learnt anything from recent events. Come on Worcester News why not start to help your readers by being more objective and positive!
As a member of the public I was also at the Planning Committee today. I sat next to Tom Edwards as he was selectively tweeting and adding his own 'spin' on his 'live report'. Funny (not!) how the press always try and put a controversial slant on things even when none exists. I was impressed by the level of debate about the new swimming pool. There were no dissenting voices from any party or Councillor and the result speaks for itself. The vote to support the planning application was unanimous. They as your elected representatives obviously consider the pool to be a worthwhile investment in Worcester's future. So why is the Worcester News trying to undermine their good intentions. From what I saw today Worcester residents have a good set of politicians looking after their interests. Its a pity that the local press is going out of its way to be controversial and undermine them. Have the press not learnt anything from recent events. Come on Worcester News why not start to help your readers by being more objective and positive! i-cycle
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7:38pm Thu 24 Jan 13

bobnohope says...

Is this site close enough for the crematorium to heat the pool, similar to Redditch?
Worth considering if the pool gets the go ahead!
Is this site close enough for the crematorium to heat the pool, similar to Redditch? Worth considering if the pool gets the go ahead! bobnohope
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8:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

skychip says...

Expect in the end it will be paid for by PFI
Expect in the end it will be paid for by PFI skychip
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8:55pm Thu 24 Jan 13

i-cycle says...

Skychip, I doubt it.

There may be Lottery grant and prudential borrowing by the Council with income from the sale of the Samsone Way site for housing eventually thrown in, but I doubt there will be any Central Government or private sector funding.

This will pay for a design and build with an operator brought in to run the pool and probably using revenue savings from the closure of the existing pool and sports halls at Perdiswell.

A new pool should also help attract back those who use other facilities outside the City thereby narrowing the annual revenue costs (no pools make money, but some are much more expensive to run).

Of course the Worcester News won't be bothered to go into this level of detail to explain why the City is doing the right things in terms of trying to minimise the costs to the ratepayer. They'll simply keep on banging on about increasing the debt rather than applauding the City (and from all political parties) for providing a modern facility which is good for local sport, makes Worcester a better place to live and work and hopefully to help more people get off their sofas and out of their cars, improve their health and stop being an increased burden on the NHS and other Council services.

In this respect the brave decision of the Council to invest in a new pool despite the current difficult financial situation is just that....an investment in our futures which will give a better longer term return than many other capital projects. Its a pity local residents, no doubt fuelled by negative media reports can't see it as an investment rather than a debt.
Skychip, I doubt it. There may be Lottery grant and prudential borrowing by the Council with income from the sale of the Samsone Way site for housing eventually thrown in, but I doubt there will be any Central Government or private sector funding. This will pay for a design and build with an operator brought in to run the pool and probably using revenue savings from the closure of the existing pool and sports halls at Perdiswell. A new pool should also help attract back those who use other facilities outside the City thereby narrowing the annual revenue costs (no pools make money, but some are much more expensive to run). Of course the Worcester News won't be bothered to go into this level of detail to explain why the City is doing the right things in terms of trying to minimise the costs to the ratepayer. They'll simply keep on banging on about increasing the debt rather than applauding the City (and from all political parties) for providing a modern facility which is good for local sport, makes Worcester a better place to live and work and hopefully to help more people get off their sofas and out of their cars, improve their health and stop being an increased burden on the NHS and other Council services. In this respect the brave decision of the Council to invest in a new pool despite the current difficult financial situation is just that....an investment in our futures which will give a better longer term return than many other capital projects. Its a pity local residents, no doubt fuelled by negative media reports can't see it as an investment rather than a debt. i-cycle
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9:07pm Thu 24 Jan 13

keep it real says...

Can you clarify the parking spaces is it 415 cars and 45 bicycles, which I would have thought were more than enough, or, 45 cars which does seem on the low side for such a great sounding facility
Can you clarify the parking spaces is it 415 cars and 45 bicycles, which I would have thought were more than enough, or, 45 cars which does seem on the low side for such a great sounding facility keep it real
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9:31pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Tom Edwards WN says...

I-Cycle,
It's a pity you didn't come over and let me know at the meeting if you felt my reporting was undermining anyone - we have no intentions of doing anything other than providing honest coverage of council debates, and certainly refute any allegations of 'spin', as you put it.

Surely this report, if anything, is a positive one, clearly stating the pool was backed unanimously by the committee. All parties do believe it is right for the city and as a newspaper we have also backed it, not least because it would tackle obesity, provide a major boost to leisure facilities locally and provide yet another asset this fantastic city. We have already championed it several times, and the majority of feedback I continue to get suggests the wider public back it too.

The debate about how it is funded is yet to be had but when that time comes we will, of course, aim to reflect all views.

If you wish to discuss this further I would welcome at chat at any time on 01905 742248.

Tom Edwards
I-Cycle, It's a pity you didn't come over and let me know at the meeting if you felt my reporting was undermining anyone - we have no intentions of doing anything other than providing honest coverage of council debates, and certainly refute any allegations of 'spin', as you put it. Surely this report, if anything, is a positive one, clearly stating the pool was backed unanimously by the committee. All parties do believe it is right for the city and as a newspaper we have also backed it, not least because it would tackle obesity, provide a major boost to leisure facilities locally and provide yet another asset this fantastic city. We have already championed it several times, and the majority of feedback I continue to get suggests the wider public back it too. The debate about how it is funded is yet to be had but when that time comes we will, of course, aim to reflect all views. If you wish to discuss this further I would welcome at chat at any time on 01905 742248. Tom Edwards Tom Edwards WN
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11:16pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Hwicce says...

It'll be a dead duck commercially unless they put in some form of "fun pool".

If not look forward to having to subsidise it for years to come.
It'll be a dead duck commercially unless they put in some form of "fun pool". If not look forward to having to subsidise it for years to come. Hwicce
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11:55pm Thu 24 Jan 13

i-cycle says...

Tom.

Maybe its just me, but I got a clear impression from your tweets that you were expressing more of a personal/editorial view on the proposals rather than reporting what was happening at the meeting.

I must admit that the subsequent report was balanced and reflective of discussions. Re-reading your tweets I may also have misinterpreted your meaning. Perhaps more a matter of tone and style rather than actual content.

I obviously couldn't discuss at the meeting, not least because I didn't read them until I got home.

I'll ring you tomorrow to discuss.
Tom. Maybe its just me, but I got a clear impression from your tweets that you were expressing more of a personal/editorial view on the proposals rather than reporting what was happening at the meeting. I must admit that the subsequent report was balanced and reflective of discussions. Re-reading your tweets I may also have misinterpreted your meaning. Perhaps more a matter of tone and style rather than actual content. I obviously couldn't discuss at the meeting, not least because I didn't read them until I got home. I'll ring you tomorrow to discuss. i-cycle
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8:37am Fri 25 Jan 13

jabroner says...

Hwicce wrote:
It'll be a dead duck commercially unless they put in some form of "fun pool".

If not look forward to having to subsidise it for years to come.
Totally agree with Hwicce,
Another Worcester project that will be half a job, Why was nothing put in for teenagers to keep occupied?? They wont want to turn up and just swim!
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: It'll be a dead duck commercially unless they put in some form of "fun pool". If not look forward to having to subsidise it for years to come.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with Hwicce, Another Worcester project that will be half a job, Why was nothing put in for teenagers to keep occupied?? They wont want to turn up and just swim! jabroner
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11:55am Fri 25 Jan 13

Marant says...

Why not? Plenty of teenagers are happy with going for 'just a swim'. And plenty of families will avoid a place if it's geared up with wave machines and 'party' toys.

Will the pool be competition standard? Would be a shame to make one that isn't. Being able to host swim meets for other clubs could help bring more money to the city, amongst other things.
Why not? Plenty of teenagers are happy with going for 'just a swim'. And plenty of families will avoid a place if it's geared up with wave machines and 'party' toys. Will the pool be competition standard? Would be a shame to make one that isn't. Being able to host swim meets for other clubs could help bring more money to the city, amongst other things. Marant
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1:01pm Fri 25 Jan 13

worcwisdom says...

I don't necessarily want a new pool, just one that doesn't smell of poo.
I really hope some of the other people who completed the consultation made this point!
I don't necessarily want a new pool, just one that doesn't smell of poo. I really hope some of the other people who completed the consultation made this point! worcwisdom
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1:14pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Landy44 says...

There are clearly a few misinformed people regarding the debt/investment and payback.

The fact is I'd love a new pool for Worcester, and a number of other things that might make it an even nicer place to live. The sad fact of the matter is that we can't afford it.

Do they not realise that this country is practically bankrupt and the difficult times we're in are likely to get far far worse in coming years?

One definition of madness is repeating the same activity in the same way and expecting a different outcome: YET AGAIN councillors are falling into the same trap the government did during the late 90's and 00's and spending money WE don't have on things none of us can afford. The difference is it's very obvious to see this time!

New Pool? I'd love one - but not if my children and their children have to pay the price.
There are clearly a few misinformed people regarding the debt/investment and payback. The fact is I'd love a new pool for Worcester, and a number of other things that might make it an even nicer place to live. The sad fact of the matter is that we can't afford it. Do they not realise that this country is practically bankrupt and the difficult times we're in are likely to get far far worse in coming years? One definition of madness is repeating the same activity in the same way and expecting a different outcome: YET AGAIN councillors are falling into the same trap the government did during the late 90's and 00's and spending money WE don't have on things none of us can afford. The difference is it's very obvious to see this time! New Pool? I'd love one - but not if my children and their children have to pay the price. Landy44
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2:00pm Fri 25 Jan 13

MrThirsty247 says...

I'm sorry but I think the money is worth it. Yes later generations will pay for it but look how beneficial this is for their health. Many of my friends have to use the aging gym and the pool is quite frankly the most disgusting and depressing pool I've ever been in! The facilities for children swims is also too sorely lacking. The sides of the pool tiles ARE GREEN!. I originally came from Hampshire and I've never seen a pool in such poor condition. Never mind Hampshire, anywhere for that matter! Have you no pride??! The alternative is to leave it to become even more dilapidated and continue to rot?
This will boost health and surely in a time where you want people (young and old) to be healthy and active, this is the way forward. It will boost the area and bring people into the center as currently I know allot of people who travel out of Worcester center just to get a good swim! Just my opinion ;)
I'm sorry but I think the money is worth it. Yes later generations will pay for it but look how beneficial this is for their health. Many of my friends have to use the aging gym and the pool is quite frankly the most disgusting and depressing pool I've ever been in! The facilities for children swims is also too sorely lacking. The sides of the pool tiles ARE GREEN!. I originally came from Hampshire and I've never seen a pool in such poor condition. Never mind Hampshire, anywhere for that matter! Have you no pride??! The alternative is to leave it to become even more dilapidated and continue to rot? This will boost health and surely in a time where you want people (young and old) to be healthy and active, this is the way forward. It will boost the area and bring people into the center as currently I know allot of people who travel out of Worcester center just to get a good swim! Just my opinion ;) MrThirsty247
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2:11pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Hwicce says...

I used to take my kids to Bromsgrove as they had the slide. They removed it and we haven't been back since.

I work with a (very) large childrens charity in Worcester and we always take the kids to Malvern as there is nothing of interest for them at Worcester.

You can say all you want about competition level laned pools but the majority of young people want fun pools. They may be fine for swimming clubs but the general population want more.
I used to take my kids to Bromsgrove as they had the slide. They removed it and we haven't been back since. I work with a (very) large childrens charity in Worcester and we always take the kids to Malvern as there is nothing of interest for them at Worcester. You can say all you want about competition level laned pools but the majority of young people want fun pools. They may be fine for swimming clubs but the general population want more. Hwicce
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4:30pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Secret agent 46 says...

What worcester needs is to add an Olympic size diving pool to it..... Wat use is a straight pool to any child.. None
What worcester needs is to add an Olympic size diving pool to it..... Wat use is a straight pool to any child.. None Secret agent 46
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4:30pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Landy44 says...

MrThirsty247 wrote:
I'm sorry but I think the money is worth it. Yes later generations will pay for it but look how beneficial this is for their health. Many of my friends have to use the aging gym and the pool is quite frankly the most disgusting and depressing pool I've ever been in! The facilities for children swims is also too sorely lacking. The sides of the pool tiles ARE GREEN!. I originally came from Hampshire and I've never seen a pool in such poor condition. Never mind Hampshire, anywhere for that matter! Have you no pride??! The alternative is to leave it to become even more dilapidated and continue to rot?
This will boost health and surely in a time where you want people (young and old) to be healthy and active, this is the way forward. It will boost the area and bring people into the center as currently I know allot of people who travel out of Worcester center just to get a good swim! Just my opinion ;)
I agree it would be lovely to have a new pool and replace the disgraceful one we have now.

It may even be worth £13million - I wouldn't know, that's not my area of expertise.

But frankly even if it cost £1million, in the current climate, and with the muppets making the decisions, I'd have to remind you - We don't have £1million. We are £TRILLIONS in debt!

I'm not sure how many people understand how serious the situation is that this is country (and others) is in : We have substantially greater debt now than at any other time in our history. We also have the lowest interest rates now than at almost any other time in our history. Interest rates are only going to go one way - UP! A fraction of a % increase in interest rates with the debt we have, and the continued wasteful spending will cause an economic and most likely a social/political collapse unlike anything we have seen before.

If you're worried about a green swimming pool, think how people will feel when there is no food on the shelves in the shops.

It may seem bleak, and perhaps far fetched to some, but that is the reality of the current significant risk we face.

This is not a time for spending - This is a time for paying down the debt (which is still increasing second by second) and THEN we can have the nice new swimming pool.

The alternative is that a private company builds and operates it - If it's such a great investment I'm surprised someone hasn't already! Ho hum.
[quote][p][bold]MrThirsty247[/bold] wrote: I'm sorry but I think the money is worth it. Yes later generations will pay for it but look how beneficial this is for their health. Many of my friends have to use the aging gym and the pool is quite frankly the most disgusting and depressing pool I've ever been in! The facilities for children swims is also too sorely lacking. The sides of the pool tiles ARE GREEN!. I originally came from Hampshire and I've never seen a pool in such poor condition. Never mind Hampshire, anywhere for that matter! Have you no pride??! The alternative is to leave it to become even more dilapidated and continue to rot? This will boost health and surely in a time where you want people (young and old) to be healthy and active, this is the way forward. It will boost the area and bring people into the center as currently I know allot of people who travel out of Worcester center just to get a good swim! Just my opinion ;)[/p][/quote]I agree it would be lovely to have a new pool and replace the disgraceful one we have now. It may even be worth £13million - I wouldn't know, that's not my area of expertise. But frankly even if it cost £1million, in the current climate, and with the muppets making the decisions, I'd have to remind you - We don't have £1million. We are £TRILLIONS in debt! I'm not sure how many people understand how serious the situation is that this is country (and others) is in : We have substantially greater debt now than at any other time in our history. We also have the lowest interest rates now than at almost any other time in our history. Interest rates are only going to go one way - UP! A fraction of a % increase in interest rates with the debt we have, and the continued wasteful spending will cause an economic and most likely a social/political collapse unlike anything we have seen before. If you're worried about a green swimming pool, think how people will feel when there is no food on the shelves in the shops. It may seem bleak, and perhaps far fetched to some, but that is the reality of the current significant risk we face. This is not a time for spending - This is a time for paying down the debt (which is still increasing second by second) and THEN we can have the nice new swimming pool. The alternative is that a private company builds and operates it - If it's such a great investment I'm surprised someone hasn't already! Ho hum. Landy44
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7:19pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

Landy44, well said! When will the fools understand what NO as in NO MONEY, actually means?

At times our Councils amaze me. They tell us they haven't got the resources for the Northern Link, which would benefit almost everyone in Worcester and a large hunk of the county, and I understand the argument about lack of funding.

Then, in the next breath it is advocated that the Council should borrow money for a new swimming pool! £13M, without grants, will take 20-25 years to pay back.

Anything borrowed has to be paid back, and most ratepayers want no more tax increases for the next few years! So, that should be that!

Sometimes I think that Monty Python lives on in Worcester!
Landy44, well said! When will the fools understand what NO as in NO MONEY, actually means? At times our Councils amaze me. They tell us they haven't got the resources for the Northern Link, which would benefit almost everyone in Worcester and a large hunk of the county, and I understand the argument about lack of funding. Then, in the next breath it is advocated that the Council should borrow money for a new swimming pool! £13M, without grants, will take 20-25 years to pay back. Anything borrowed has to be paid back, and most ratepayers want no more tax increases for the next few years! So, that should be that! Sometimes I think that Monty Python lives on in Worcester! Lew Smoralz
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9:54pm Fri 25 Jan 13

DarrenM says...

and no doubt by the time its finished it will be 10 million over budget and delivered late but the 13m cost we have all been assured of will be quietly forgotten and it will be hailed as a great success.
and no doubt by the time its finished it will be 10 million over budget and delivered late but the 13m cost we have all been assured of will be quietly forgotten and it will be hailed as a great success. DarrenM
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9:54am Sat 26 Jan 13

iamthebinman says...

Hereford swimming centre has a 25m pool, wave/slide/fun pool, diving pool and learner pool. For 13 million pounds it must be possible to build a swimming facility for everyone.
Hereford swimming centre has a 25m pool, wave/slide/fun pool, diving pool and learner pool. For 13 million pounds it must be possible to build a swimming facility for everyone. iamthebinman
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12:25am Sun 27 Jan 13

Ajworcs says...

Why demolish the current centre? Extend it! It was only built in the 80s. We need both Olympic size and fun too. If its one or the other we will regret it! As for consultation, it's hardly Worcesters strong point really!
Why demolish the current centre? Extend it! It was only built in the 80s. We need both Olympic size and fun too. If its one or the other we will regret it! As for consultation, it's hardly Worcesters strong point really! Ajworcs
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10:33am Mon 28 Jan 13

mr_wilson15 says...

Ajworcs wrote:
Why demolish the current centre? Extend it! It was only built in the 80s. We need both Olympic size and fun too. If its one or the other we will regret it! As for consultation, it's hardly Worcesters strong point really!
The council can make lots of money off that site ...Flog it to the developers, turn it into student housing, build a new Tescos, or a multi story car park ....
This is why!
[quote][p][bold]Ajworcs[/bold] wrote: Why demolish the current centre? Extend it! It was only built in the 80s. We need both Olympic size and fun too. If its one or the other we will regret it! As for consultation, it's hardly Worcesters strong point really![/p][/quote]The council can make lots of money off that site ...Flog it to the developers, turn it into student housing, build a new Tescos, or a multi story car park .... This is why! mr_wilson15
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12:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13

Vox populi says...

Nice to see the soothsayers of debt and disaster are active.

Just remember whilst you are squirreling away your pension money for nothing some of us are bringing up children that need and deserve these facilities…
Its quite simple really - Worcester needs a new pool. Such facilitites generate local wealth from jobs right through to attracting new residents. Its called investment, ever heard the term "you can't make money without money?"

Bury our heads in the sand, bank all spare money we can whilst things crumble and decay around us in the hope things will improve or actually do something about improving them and generate some?

Sorry but my glass is half full on this one
Nice to see the soothsayers of debt and disaster are active. Just remember whilst you are squirreling away your pension money for nothing some of us are bringing up children that need and deserve these facilities… Its quite simple really - Worcester needs a new pool. Such facilitites generate local wealth from jobs right through to attracting new residents. Its called investment, ever heard the term "you can't make money without money?" Bury our heads in the sand, bank all spare money we can whilst things crumble and decay around us in the hope things will improve or actually do something about improving them and generate some? Sorry but my glass is half full on this one Vox populi
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10:14am Tue 29 Jan 13

More Tea Vicar says...

i-cycle wrote:
As a member of the public I was also at the Planning Committee today. I sat next to Tom Edwards as he was selectively tweeting and adding his own 'spin' on his 'live report'.

Funny (not!) how the press always try and put a controversial slant on things even when none exists.

I was impressed by the level of debate about the new swimming pool. There were no dissenting voices from any party or Councillor and the result speaks for itself.

The vote to support the planning application was unanimous. They as your elected representatives obviously consider the pool to be a worthwhile investment in Worcester's future. So why is the Worcester News trying to undermine their good intentions.

From what I saw today Worcester residents have a good set of politicians looking after their interests. Its a pity that the local press is going out of its way to be controversial and undermine them.

Have the press not learnt anything from recent events. Come on Worcester News why not start to help your readers by being more objective and positive!
YOUR Worcester News has a few irritating ticks. The hilarious habit of referring to itself as YOUR Worcester News being one of them.

But in general, I'd say it does a reasonable job of reporting local issues. i don't always agree with it. In fact, I sometimes think that if anything, it can be too close to the Council.

But on this, it only seems to have reported on a fairly legitimate issue, rather than trying to create a controversy.

BTW - I wouldn't regard the fact that there were no dissenting voices at the meeting as a sign that the plan was good.

I don't particularly object to this idea, quite the contrary. But the devil's in the detail, and the Council does make some howling foul ups.
[quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: As a member of the public I was also at the Planning Committee today. I sat next to Tom Edwards as he was selectively tweeting and adding his own 'spin' on his 'live report'. Funny (not!) how the press always try and put a controversial slant on things even when none exists. I was impressed by the level of debate about the new swimming pool. There were no dissenting voices from any party or Councillor and the result speaks for itself. The vote to support the planning application was unanimous. They as your elected representatives obviously consider the pool to be a worthwhile investment in Worcester's future. So why is the Worcester News trying to undermine their good intentions. From what I saw today Worcester residents have a good set of politicians looking after their interests. Its a pity that the local press is going out of its way to be controversial and undermine them. Have the press not learnt anything from recent events. Come on Worcester News why not start to help your readers by being more objective and positive![/p][/quote]YOUR Worcester News has a few irritating ticks. The hilarious habit of referring to itself as YOUR Worcester News being one of them. But in general, I'd say it does a reasonable job of reporting local issues. i don't always agree with it. In fact, I sometimes think that if anything, it can be too close to the Council. But on this, it only seems to have reported on a fairly legitimate issue, rather than trying to create a controversy. BTW - I wouldn't regard the fact that there were no dissenting voices at the meeting as a sign that the plan was good. I don't particularly object to this idea, quite the contrary. But the devil's in the detail, and the Council does make some howling foul ups. More Tea Vicar
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10:32am Tue 29 Jan 13

nikijc says...

At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet and we are constantly being asked to pay more or lose local services, this does not really seem like a good idea. I know the money is supposed to be coming from different pots but...
Would it not be sensible to invest some money in the current pool, clean it up, add extra facilities, promote it for competitions, make it something to be proud of, rather than avoid.
At a time when people are struggling to make ends meet and we are constantly being asked to pay more or lose local services, this does not really seem like a good idea. I know the money is supposed to be coming from different pots but... Would it not be sensible to invest some money in the current pool, clean it up, add extra facilities, promote it for competitions, make it something to be proud of, rather than avoid. nikijc
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11:54am Thu 31 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

I think that the only way this proposal can be justified is if it has a grander vision than just a replacement swimming pool.

As a Worcester sports centre, integrating the golf, gym, swimming and the recently proposed football centre it would be a forward-looking vision that could justify the cost involved.
I think that the only way this proposal can be justified is if it has a grander vision than just a replacement swimming pool. As a Worcester sports centre, integrating the golf, gym, swimming and the recently proposed football centre it would be a forward-looking vision that could justify the cost involved. Lew Smoralz
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