£2.5 million roads boost revealed for Worcestershire

Worcester News: County council leader Adrian Hardman County council leader Adrian Hardman

AN EXTRA £2.5 million will be ploughed into repairing ugly potholes, divots and cracks in Worcestershire’s roads network, it emerged today.

The county council is preparing its’ biggest ever investment into highways after feedback from residents said it should be the biggest priority after social care.

The cash, which will last until 2015, is on top of the £3.2 million of funding from central Government for roads maintenance during the next two financial years.

During a meeting of the ruling Conservative cabinet politicians said the “biggest thing in the postbag” from residents is complaints over roads.

During surveys last year public satisfaction over the county’s highways was as low as 42 per cent despite multi-millions going on pothole repairs in recent years.

Councillor Adrian Hardman, county council leader, said: “The people of the county have told us it was their second main priority so we will be making considerable investments on it.

“I certainly know in my division (Bredon) I get people contacting me all the time asking for repairs to certain roads and I know all members of this council get similar requests.”

Of the £2.5 million, £500,000 will go into the roads infrastructure budget straightaway, which helps towards the rolling maintenance programme across the county.

The remaining £2 million of taxpayers cash will be available for when councillors flag up roads or footpaths of concern from residents, meaning they will effectively be able to make bids for slices of the money.

There is also a pot of £11.7 million in the 2013/14 financial year for structural maintenance, such as bridge repairs.

Councillor John Smith, the cabinet member responsible for highways, said: “It will be a huge help to all 57 members of this council and I certainly support it.”

An additional £2 million will also be put to a pot for flooding alleviation work in Worcestershire.

The cabinet also agreed to approve a £331 million budget for the 2013/14 financial year today, which includes a council tax freeze for the third year in a row.

It will lead to cuts of over £20 million and is subject to approval by full council next Thursday, where it will go to the vote.

* For more on this story, see your Worcester News tomorrow.

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2:06pm Thu 7 Feb 13

green49 says...

Why do we have to report the holes in the roads?
Don't the councilors travel the same roads as us? they should be able to see for themselves the state of them or do they not use the same road as the rest of us?
The Highways department should be monitoring all the time but then i lost faith in them years ago.
Why do we have to report the holes in the roads? Don't the councilors travel the same roads as us? they should be able to see for themselves the state of them or do they not use the same road as the rest of us? The Highways department should be monitoring all the time but then i lost faith in them years ago. green49

2:37pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Samboy says...

My immediate reaction to green49 was unprintable. Does he need somebody else to do everything for him? Reminds me of an ex-neighbour of mine who refused to separate recyclable waste, saying it was the Council's job and that was why she paid Council Tax.
My immediate reaction to green49 was unprintable. Does he need somebody else to do everything for him? Reminds me of an ex-neighbour of mine who refused to separate recyclable waste, saying it was the Council's job and that was why she paid Council Tax. Samboy

2:53pm Thu 7 Feb 13

green49 says...

Samboy? i did'nt say i would'nt report bad roads but i do object to the people who do get paid to do the job through the council tax but fall short of doing there job, if your happy to pay these morons for nothing then good luck to you but you should read what i said again as you have the wrong end of the stick.
Samboy? i did'nt say i would'nt report bad roads but i do object to the people who do get paid to do the job through the council tax but fall short of doing there job, if your happy to pay these morons for nothing then good luck to you but you should read what i said again as you have the wrong end of the stick. green49

4:07pm Thu 7 Feb 13

brooksider says...

Samboy wrote:
My immediate reaction to green49 was unprintable. Does he need somebody else to do everything for him? Reminds me of an ex-neighbour of mine who refused to separate recyclable waste, saying it was the Council's job and that was why she paid Council Tax.
To be fair to green49 he has got a point.
When driving, do the Worcestershire Highways staff ignore potholes?
Surely after spotting one they would report it themselves.
The alternative is too worrying to contemplate.
[quote][p][bold]Samboy[/bold] wrote: My immediate reaction to green49 was unprintable. Does he need somebody else to do everything for him? Reminds me of an ex-neighbour of mine who refused to separate recyclable waste, saying it was the Council's job and that was why she paid Council Tax.[/p][/quote]To be fair to green49 he has got a point. When driving, do the Worcestershire Highways staff ignore potholes? Surely after spotting one they would report it themselves. The alternative is too worrying to contemplate. brooksider

6:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13

pinkfluff says...

I'm sure they would get criticised if they repaired the roads councillors used, someone would use that against them and whinge that "their" road is waiting repair too.
I'm sure they would get criticised if they repaired the roads councillors used, someone would use that against them and whinge that "their" road is waiting repair too. pinkfluff

7:02pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Stephen Brown says...

So let me get this right...social care gets cut, vulnerable people will suffer, staff lose their jobs; but hey it's all ok because the roads budget goes up?

Hurray, its what the people want and gets the Tories votes. Got to hand it to them, the Tories know how to bribe some folks.

Just a shame most people won't see the damage this lot are doing to frontline services until you yourself need them but then find its gone - but everyone sees the roads so it fills the postbags. Job done. What a surprise. What a back-to-front upside-down country we live in......
So let me get this right...social care gets cut, vulnerable people will suffer, staff lose their jobs; but hey it's all ok because the roads budget goes up? Hurray, its what the people want and gets the Tories votes. Got to hand it to them, the Tories know how to bribe some folks. Just a shame most people won't see the damage this lot are doing to frontline services until you yourself need them but then find its gone - but everyone sees the roads so it fills the postbags. Job done. What a surprise. What a back-to-front upside-down country we live in...... Stephen Brown

7:16pm Thu 7 Feb 13

orla nutting says...

I've reported several potholes recently, it's no big deal, and they've been repaired within hours.
I've reported several potholes recently, it's no big deal, and they've been repaired within hours. orla nutting

7:31pm Thu 7 Feb 13

saucerer says...

green49 wrote:
Why do we have to report the holes in the roads?
Don't the councilors travel the same roads as us? they should be able to see for themselves the state of them or do they not use the same road as the rest of us?
The Highways department should be monitoring all the time but then i lost faith in them years ago.
You have a point. It is up to the highways department to inspect the roads and repair them, not palm off the responsibility on to members of the public to seek out potholes. But if we do report them, very rarely do they get checked, with the comment normally being "will be inspected in next routine visit" or "we do not respond to potholes via PEMs" No idea what PEMs mean by the way!

But what annoys me is the standard of repairs and their methods. They may fill a pothole but won't bother doing the one a few yards away because it hasn't been reported in or marked, so it means they'll have to come back again. And as for the repairs, they are generally done to such a poor standard that within weeks the tarmac comes out of the pothole, meaning another visit and further cost. And if a road is littered with potholes, rather than keep visiting it and fillling the holes time and time again, why not just do a proper job by resurfacing the road in one visit.

With this sort of approach, is it any wonder satisfaction is low, more so if millions of pound have been spent on neglible results and little improvement.
[quote][p][bold]green49[/bold] wrote: Why do we have to report the holes in the roads? Don't the councilors travel the same roads as us? they should be able to see for themselves the state of them or do they not use the same road as the rest of us? The Highways department should be monitoring all the time but then i lost faith in them years ago.[/p][/quote]You have a point. It is up to the highways department to inspect the roads and repair them, not palm off the responsibility on to members of the public to seek out potholes. But if we do report them, very rarely do they get checked, with the comment normally being "will be inspected in next routine visit" or "we do not respond to potholes via PEMs" No idea what PEMs mean by the way! But what annoys me is the standard of repairs and their methods. They may fill a pothole but won't bother doing the one a few yards away because it hasn't been reported in or marked, so it means they'll have to come back again. And as for the repairs, they are generally done to such a poor standard that within weeks the tarmac comes out of the pothole, meaning another visit and further cost. And if a road is littered with potholes, rather than keep visiting it and fillling the holes time and time again, why not just do a proper job by resurfacing the road in one visit. With this sort of approach, is it any wonder satisfaction is low, more so if millions of pound have been spent on neglible results and little improvement. saucerer

8:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13

chapski75 says...

The highways department would be better to spend more money on road maintenance at the expense of re-designing road junctions such as the Whittington roundabout.

Fact is if they don't spend the money on road maintenance they'll be shelling out that money on compensation to motorists who's cars are damaged by pot holes and the holes will get deeper. It's an area that's been neglected too long and it's probably still a case of too little too late.

There are machines that have been developed to do the job more permanently, quicker, and cheaper than a gang of road workers leaning on their shovels while one of them lobs a bucket of tarmac in the hole. What's the odds that the money will be ineffectively used up rather than spent using an intelligent approach?
The highways department would be better to spend more money on road maintenance at the expense of re-designing road junctions such as the Whittington roundabout. Fact is if they don't spend the money on road maintenance they'll be shelling out that money on compensation to motorists who's cars are damaged by pot holes and the holes will get deeper. It's an area that's been neglected too long and it's probably still a case of too little too late. There are machines that have been developed to do the job more permanently, quicker, and cheaper than a gang of road workers leaning on their shovels while one of them lobs a bucket of tarmac in the hole. What's the odds that the money will be ineffectively used up rather than spent using an intelligent approach? chapski75

9:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13

vexedofworcester says...

About time, if the council had not wasted so much time on the university's new library and overspent on the mess inside, they could have given the roads the attention they need. Fewer pay rises for the council staff employed there would have meant fewer pot holes for the rest of us.
About time, if the council had not wasted so much time on the university's new library and overspent on the mess inside, they could have given the roads the attention they need. Fewer pay rises for the council staff employed there would have meant fewer pot holes for the rest of us. vexedofworcester

10:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Redhillman says...

vexedofworcester wrote:
About time, if the council had not wasted so much time on the university's new library and overspent on the mess inside, they could have given the roads the attention they need. Fewer pay rises for the council staff employed there would have meant fewer pot holes for the rest of us.
Not to mention the money wasted on farcical and nonsense schemes by our very own highways staff, such as bus lanes and the Whittington roundabout. The situation isn't helped either by their huge salaries either, money that should be spent on services instead of lining their pockets.
[quote][p][bold]vexedofworcester[/bold] wrote: About time, if the council had not wasted so much time on the university's new library and overspent on the mess inside, they could have given the roads the attention they need. Fewer pay rises for the council staff employed there would have meant fewer pot holes for the rest of us.[/p][/quote]Not to mention the money wasted on farcical and nonsense schemes by our very own highways staff, such as bus lanes and the Whittington roundabout. The situation isn't helped either by their huge salaries either, money that should be spent on services instead of lining their pockets. Redhillman

11:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Vox populi says...

Not gonna take long for somebody to mention that death trap murdering traffic island......oh hang on...

It's actually good for everyone, you labour voters won't buckle you bicycle wheels and I won't have expensive repair bills for my huge expensive alloy wheels.

Everyone's a winner :-)
Not gonna take long for somebody to mention that death trap murdering traffic island......oh hang on... It's actually good for everyone, you labour voters won't buckle you bicycle wheels and I won't have expensive repair bills for my huge expensive alloy wheels. Everyone's a winner :-) Vox populi

11:39pm Thu 7 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

Vox Populi has made a brilliant point

He drives something that runs on money and makes you fat.....
We cycle something that runs on fat and saves you money.

Suits me.

You choose how you move!
Vox Populi has made a brilliant point He drives something that runs on money and makes you fat..... We cycle something that runs on fat and saves you money. Suits me. You choose how you move! i-cycle

12:00am Fri 8 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

I've just read the story again and the penny's dropped.

Vox Populi is wrong.

The Councillors decide which potholes to fix!

What's the betting that Vox Populi will be driving on pothole free roads through his nice rural conservative constituency, whilst us 'poor' cyclists make sure the local bike shops make a packet.

Election anyone?
I've just read the story again and the penny's dropped. Vox Populi is wrong. The Councillors decide which potholes to fix! What's the betting that Vox Populi will be driving on pothole free roads through his nice rural conservative constituency, whilst us 'poor' cyclists make sure the local bike shops make a packet. Election anyone? i-cycle

8:19am Fri 8 Feb 13

MrV says...

As someone who has to negotiate countless speed bumps going to and from work can we not treat the potholes as inverted speed bumps?
Alternatively can we not remove the speed bumps and use them to fill in the pot-holes?
Far from making the roads safe they are a hazard especially in slippery conditions. Even more so if there is a covering of snow as you know they are there but not exactly where so unless you go over them exactly right you are sent sliding away.
Also the bumps discriminate against smaller cars and so have no effect on the larger 4x4s and trucks that go over them unhindered.
Rant over.
As someone who has to negotiate countless speed bumps going to and from work can we not treat the potholes as inverted speed bumps? Alternatively can we not remove the speed bumps and use them to fill in the pot-holes? Far from making the roads safe they are a hazard especially in slippery conditions. Even more so if there is a covering of snow as you know they are there but not exactly where so unless you go over them exactly right you are sent sliding away. Also the bumps discriminate against smaller cars and so have no effect on the larger 4x4s and trucks that go over them unhindered. Rant over. MrV

9:50am Fri 8 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

Good point from Mr V.

The emergency services don't like speed bumps either.

A far more effective way of slowing traffic down is to have a blanket introduction of 20mph zones in our residential areas.

Its more cost effective (signs and markings on the road), saves lives, reduces serious injuries, makes it easier and safer to get out and about by bike or on foot (which obviously reduces traffic), people are healthier and it s a much better and cleaner environment.

In independent polls even 75% of motorists supported 20mph for residential areas, so it should be a politically acceptable too!

Councils up and down Britain are waking up to the benefits. Pershore High Street has already gone 20.

Coming up to county council elections, why not join us is in asking our politicians to help us to create a better living environment for us and our kids.

For more details on the advantages and how you could get involved >

www.worcester.20sple
ntyforus.org.uk
Good point from Mr V. The emergency services don't like speed bumps either. A far more effective way of slowing traffic down is to have a blanket introduction of 20mph zones in our residential areas. Its more cost effective (signs and markings on the road), saves lives, reduces serious injuries, makes it easier and safer to get out and about by bike or on foot (which obviously reduces traffic), people are healthier and it s a much better and cleaner environment. In independent polls even 75% of motorists supported 20mph for residential areas, so it should be a politically acceptable too! Councils up and down Britain are waking up to the benefits. Pershore High Street has already gone 20. Coming up to county council elections, why not join us is in asking our politicians to help us to create a better living environment for us and our kids. For more details on the advantages and how you could get involved > www.worcester.20sple ntyforus.org.uk i-cycle

12:34pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Vox populi says...

i-cycle wrote:
Vox Populi has made a brilliant point He drives something that runs on money and makes you fat..... We cycle something that runs on fat and saves you money. Suits me. You choose how you move!
Sorry, not fat.

I cycle for fun and recreation not because I have to and I really enjoy it thanks. Fresh air, no potholes, mountain tracks...

Not sure my 60mile commute is conducive to cycling anyway, cycling is not a choice.
[quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: Vox Populi has made a brilliant point He drives something that runs on money and makes you fat..... We cycle something that runs on fat and saves you money. Suits me. You choose how you move![/p][/quote]Sorry, not fat. I cycle for fun and recreation not because I have to and I really enjoy it thanks. Fresh air, no potholes, mountain tracks... Not sure my 60mile commute is conducive to cycling anyway, cycling is not a choice. Vox populi

1:13pm Fri 8 Feb 13

caer caradoc says...

As a cyclist and a driver, I welcome the Council's announcement of great investment in road infrastructure maintenance.

A few years ago, the state of our roads were terrible but I noticed a significant improvement in the last years once WCC had decided to invest more. The resulting fewer potholes and resurfaced roads was a considerable improvement, yet there is more to be done and I welcome this latest announcement.

With regard to pothole reporting, it is everyone's responsibility and can easily be achieved via online reporting at the County Council's website.
As a cyclist and a driver, I welcome the Council's announcement of great investment in road infrastructure maintenance. A few years ago, the state of our roads were terrible but I noticed a significant improvement in the last years once WCC had decided to invest more. The resulting fewer potholes and resurfaced roads was a considerable improvement, yet there is more to be done and I welcome this latest announcement. With regard to pothole reporting, it is everyone's responsibility and can easily be achieved via online reporting at the County Council's website. caer caradoc

1:42pm Fri 8 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

That's great Vox Populi.

You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike

So why be so patronising to other cyclists?

Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none.

Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?
That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys? i-cycle

2:02pm Fri 8 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

Caer Caradoc

I more than most welcome well maintained roads as potholes are usually in the gutter where we have to cycle and drivers all too often don't allow enough space for us to avoid them.

My main concern is that this looks like a way of a vulnerable conservative administration using our tax payers money 'buy' votes in the lead up to the next County Council elections on 2nd May.

"The remaining £2 million of taxpayers cash will be available for when councillors flag up roads or footpaths of concern from residents, meaning they will effectively be able to make bids for slices of the money."

As you point out there's a perfectly adequate and fair on-line mechanism for us all to report potholes, so why is Mr Hardman introducing a separate route for councillors to determine where the money should be spent.

The Council's own Highways Engineers are on record as saying that planned maintenance and resurfacing is a much better and more cost effective route to improving our roads. So at a time when they're going to be cutting another £1.5M per annum from the longer term maintenance budget why are the Conservative administration taking cuts made on other important services and finding another £2.5M to pour into ground when its doesn't make financial sense?

I can see the press reports and photos of smiling prospective Conservative County Councillors now, hard hat on head, shovel in hand.

They'll have to be quick though. Purdha starts late March when they're not allowed to use public funds to increase their chances of election.

I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but think somethings amiss.
Caer Caradoc I more than most welcome well maintained roads as potholes are usually in the gutter where we have to cycle and drivers all too often don't allow enough space for us to avoid them. My main concern is that this looks like a way of a vulnerable conservative administration using our tax payers money 'buy' votes in the lead up to the next County Council elections on 2nd May. "The remaining £2 million of taxpayers cash will be available for when councillors flag up roads or footpaths of concern from residents, meaning they will effectively be able to make bids for slices of the money." As you point out there's a perfectly adequate and fair on-line mechanism for us all to report potholes, so why is Mr Hardman introducing a separate route for councillors to determine where the money should be spent. The Council's own Highways Engineers are on record as saying that planned maintenance and resurfacing is a much better and more cost effective route to improving our roads. So at a time when they're going to be cutting another £1.5M per annum from the longer term maintenance budget why are the Conservative administration taking cuts made on other important services and finding another £2.5M to pour into ground when its doesn't make financial sense? I can see the press reports and photos of smiling prospective Conservative County Councillors now, hard hat on head, shovel in hand. They'll have to be quick though. Purdha starts late March when they're not allowed to use public funds to increase their chances of election. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help but think somethings amiss. i-cycle

3:56pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Vox populi says...

i-cycle wrote:
That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?
I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious...
[quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?[/p][/quote]I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious... Vox populi

5:21pm Fri 8 Feb 13

pinkfluff says...

Vox populi wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?
I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious...
.....or immigration lol.

Would have to be quite a stretch of the imagination to blame pot holes on immigration :-)
[quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?[/p][/quote]I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious...[/p][/quote].....or immigration lol. Would have to be quite a stretch of the imagination to blame pot holes on immigration :-) pinkfluff

10:36pm Fri 8 Feb 13

panpipe says...

all the contractors do is go along put a piece of tarmac down and thump it down i have seen it done and on that same day it has come back up again top of canterbury road liverpool road prestwich avenue is dangerous its like pothole city why dont they do the job right and replace the whole of roads instead of putting a bit hear and there it when in the long run it would be better and would last longer also not be dangerous as the roads are uneven anyway a cyclist will get very badly hurt also if they hit them worst in the evening when light isnt so good its about time the council got off there bums and resurfaced alot of the roads and done it for everyone
all the contractors do is go along put a piece of tarmac down and thump it down i have seen it done and on that same day it has come back up again top of canterbury road liverpool road prestwich avenue is dangerous its like pothole city why dont they do the job right and replace the whole of roads instead of putting a bit hear and there it when in the long run it would be better and would last longer also not be dangerous as the roads are uneven anyway a cyclist will get very badly hurt also if they hit them worst in the evening when light isnt so good its about time the council got off there bums and resurfaced alot of the roads and done it for everyone panpipe

11:20am Sat 9 Feb 13

nicki1967 says...

panpipe wrote:
all the contractors do is go along put a piece of tarmac down and thump it down i have seen it done and on that same day it has come back up again top of canterbury road liverpool road prestwich avenue is dangerous its like pothole city why dont they do the job right and replace the whole of roads instead of putting a bit hear and there it when in the long run it would be better and would last longer also not be dangerous as the roads are uneven anyway a cyclist will get very badly hurt also if they hit them worst in the evening when light isnt so good its about time the council got off there bums and resurfaced alot of the roads and done it for everyone
I agree with this comment. Rather than doing a poor job repairing each pothole as cheaply as possible, the council should spend a bit more money and do the job properly. It would even save money in the long run surely. Yes, it would be a little inconvenient for us road users while the work was being carried out but I think that is a small price to pay as it would be to our benefit.
I have encountered many potholes around Worcester on my occasional car journeys but, to be perfectly honest, there's so many of the things it's just not practical to make of note of where they are and then report them on returning home. If there was just the odd pothole then it wouldn't be a problem. I guess that someone is now going to say that if we all worked together it'd be sorted, eh?!
[quote][p][bold]panpipe[/bold] wrote: all the contractors do is go along put a piece of tarmac down and thump it down i have seen it done and on that same day it has come back up again top of canterbury road liverpool road prestwich avenue is dangerous its like pothole city why dont they do the job right and replace the whole of roads instead of putting a bit hear and there it when in the long run it would be better and would last longer also not be dangerous as the roads are uneven anyway a cyclist will get very badly hurt also if they hit them worst in the evening when light isnt so good its about time the council got off there bums and resurfaced alot of the roads and done it for everyone[/p][/quote]I agree with this comment. Rather than doing a poor job repairing each pothole as cheaply as possible, the council should spend a bit more money and do the job properly. It would even save money in the long run surely. Yes, it would be a little inconvenient for us road users while the work was being carried out but I think that is a small price to pay as it would be to our benefit. I have encountered many potholes around Worcester on my occasional car journeys but, to be perfectly honest, there's so many of the things it's just not practical to make of note of where they are and then report them on returning home. If there was just the odd pothole then it wouldn't be a problem. I guess that someone is now going to say that if we all worked together it'd be sorted, eh?! nicki1967

1:17pm Sat 9 Feb 13

i-cycle says...

Planned maintenance that sorts the underlying problem is certainly more cost effective in the longer term. However...

Potholes usually occur close to road edges. Cars either miss or drive over them without a major problem For a cyclist larger holes can be really dangerous. Imaging hitting one and especially going downhill at speed!

The only option is to try and miss the hole, but all too often passing cars don't give you enough room.

Its getting to be a serious problem and especially as more are getting out on their bikes.

There will soon be a County Council/West Mercia Police campaign encouraging motorists to give cyclists more room, but the only way to remove the danger is fill that hole.

So motorists, please be considerate and give us plenty of room as you pass.
Planned maintenance that sorts the underlying problem is certainly more cost effective in the longer term. However... Potholes usually occur close to road edges. Cars either miss or drive over them without a major problem For a cyclist larger holes can be really dangerous. Imaging hitting one and especially going downhill at speed! The only option is to try and miss the hole, but all too often passing cars don't give you enough room. Its getting to be a serious problem and especially as more are getting out on their bikes. There will soon be a County Council/West Mercia Police campaign encouraging motorists to give cyclists more room, but the only way to remove the danger is fill that hole. So motorists, please be considerate and give us plenty of room as you pass. i-cycle

2:16pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Jabbadad says...

I recall the WCC trumpeting employing " men on Motorcycles to constantly travel our roads and record all the POT HOLES and assess them as to need of repair etc. WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?
I have also used the Internet Site to report a pot hole, which seemed to require almost exact locality measurements and the position of the Hole in reference to distance in metres to the pavement, road junction etc.as if we were surveyors. But the Pot Holes did get repaired quite quickly. So yes we can help.
I recall the WCC trumpeting employing " men on Motorcycles to constantly travel our roads and record all the POT HOLES and assess them as to need of repair etc. WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? I have also used the Internet Site to report a pot hole, which seemed to require almost exact locality measurements and the position of the Hole in reference to distance in metres to the pavement, road junction etc.as if we were surveyors. But the Pot Holes did get repaired quite quickly. So yes we can help. Jabbadad

10:31pm Sat 9 Feb 13

More Tea Vicar says...

Didn't they spend £4 million on that Newtown Road mess up? If they stopped wasting money on idiotic schemes, and did their job instead maybe we wouldn't have these problems.
Didn't they spend £4 million on that Newtown Road mess up? If they stopped wasting money on idiotic schemes, and did their job instead maybe we wouldn't have these problems. More Tea Vicar

10:42pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Jabbadad says...

Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.
Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road. Jabbadad

4:03pm Mon 11 Feb 13

More Tea Vicar says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.
Enough said....

Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined?
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.[/p][/quote]Enough said.... Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined? More Tea Vicar

1:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mr_wilson15 says...

More Tea Vicar wrote:
Jabbadad wrote:
Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.
Enough said....

Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined?
If not, are you going to give them a spanking? So what?
[quote][p][bold]More Tea Vicar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.[/p][/quote]Enough said.... Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined?[/p][/quote]If not, are you going to give them a spanking? So what? mr_wilson15

1:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

panpipe says...

why should the public pay car tax when the roads are getting so bad its not good for cars going in them also it dangerous for a cyclist as some roads havent got enough light to see them due to some being in lanes or on corners wales and scotland roads are alot better to drive on you dont often see bad roads there like england silly things that budget is spent on isnt needed all the time like bus lanes etc we need safer and decent roads for everyone before there is accidents
why should the public pay car tax when the roads are getting so bad its not good for cars going in them also it dangerous for a cyclist as some roads havent got enough light to see them due to some being in lanes or on corners wales and scotland roads are alot better to drive on you dont often see bad roads there like england silly things that budget is spent on isnt needed all the time like bus lanes etc we need safer and decent roads for everyone before there is accidents panpipe

1:36pm Tue 12 Feb 13

mr_wilson15 says...

panpipe wrote:
why should the public pay car tax when the roads are getting so bad its not good for cars going in them also it dangerous for a cyclist as some roads havent got enough light to see them due to some being in lanes or on corners wales and scotland roads are alot better to drive on you dont often see bad roads there like england silly things that budget is spent on isnt needed all the time like bus lanes etc we need safer and decent roads for everyone before there is accidents
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May I introduce you to a Full stop!! haha sorry, couldn't resist
[quote][p][bold]panpipe[/bold] wrote: why should the public pay car tax when the roads are getting so bad its not good for cars going in them also it dangerous for a cyclist as some roads havent got enough light to see them due to some being in lanes or on corners wales and scotland roads are alot better to drive on you dont often see bad roads there like england silly things that budget is spent on isnt needed all the time like bus lanes etc we need safer and decent roads for everyone before there is accidents[/p][/quote]------> . May I introduce you to a Full stop!! haha sorry, couldn't resist mr_wilson15

2:16pm Tue 12 Feb 13

More Tea Vicar says...

pinkfluff wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?
I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious...
.....or immigration lol.

Would have to be quite a stretch of the imagination to blame pot holes on immigration :-)
One day you'll probably get round to doing a posting that makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]pinkfluff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: That's great Vox Populi. You obviously appreciate the many advantages of using a bike So why be so patronising to other cyclists? Bikes are a great way of getting about for everyone whether they vote for one party or none. Wouldn't it be better to encourage more to cycle ad make more space on the road for your alloys?[/p][/quote]I wasn't being patronising to other cyclists just those who see it as neccessary to link every comment on here with a political party. It is hilarious...[/p][/quote].....or immigration lol. Would have to be quite a stretch of the imagination to blame pot holes on immigration :-)[/p][/quote]One day you'll probably get round to doing a posting that makes sense. More Tea Vicar

2:20pm Tue 12 Feb 13

More Tea Vicar says...

mr_wilson15 wrote:
More Tea Vicar wrote:
Jabbadad wrote:
Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.
Enough said....

Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined?
If not, are you going to give them a spanking? So what?
Ok, there's probably all sorts of things going on in your mind that you might want to get help with.

Regarding the subject under discussion, though, the Council does have a habit of making serious unforced errors, and no one involved seems to suffer any negative consequences.

And they have wasted money which could have been spent avoiding the problems they are now boasting about resolving ever happening in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]More Tea Vicar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Well Derek Prodger was the man in charge of that and Bromyard Road.[/p][/quote]Enough said.... Given the problems the poor design has caused (wonky road lines on the Newtown Road, weird light sequencing on Bromyard Road) did anyone get disciplined?[/p][/quote]If not, are you going to give them a spanking? So what?[/p][/quote]Ok, there's probably all sorts of things going on in your mind that you might want to get help with. Regarding the subject under discussion, though, the Council does have a habit of making serious unforced errors, and no one involved seems to suffer any negative consequences. And they have wasted money which could have been spent avoiding the problems they are now boasting about resolving ever happening in the first place. More Tea Vicar

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