Screen just does not wash with us

Worcester News: SPLASHDOWN: The screen at Diamond Car Wash must be taken down following complaints from neighbours. SPLASHDOWN: The screen at Diamond Car Wash must be taken down following complaints from neighbours.

A CAR wash in Worcester has been ordered to take down a large plastic screen following complaints from neighbours.

The Diamond Car Wash in Bromwich Road, St John’s, put up a three- metre high plastic fence last Christmas without planning permission following complaints from residents about noise and spray from the business.

However, when considering whether to grant retrospective planning permission for the boarding, Worcester City Council’s planning committee were told the board had made matters worse. Carole Williams, who lives next door to the business, said the fence was not shielding her or her neighbours from spray and was generating more noise than it had before.

“It has no benefit at all, it’s just a piece of transparent plastic,” she said.

“This organisation has been allowed to operate seven days a week – we get no respite from the noise.

“We have a balcony that we are supposed to be able to enjoy in a conservation area – this is now blighted as we cannot enjoy it.”

Mrs Williams, who works from home from an office overlooking the business, described it as an “eyesore” and said the glare from the screen was often unbearable. “In the evening I cannot work without drawing my blinds,” she said. “If that fence remains I cannot use my study.”

Although some people had raised concerns about the visual impact of the screen, planning officer Alan Coleman – who had recommended the committee should grant retrospective permission – said he did not think this was grounds for refusal.

“If there’s scope for refusal it’s due to the harm to Mr and Mrs Williams’ property rather than the conservation area,” he said. Coun David Tibbutt said he did not feel comfortable permitting the development following Mrs Williams’ comments.

“If it’s in fact not doing its job it’s not something that we can give permission for,” he said.

The application was discussed by the committee in June, but was deferred until this month’s meeting so officers could put together more information on the development.

Members voted to refuse retrospective permission, which means the car wash has to remove the screen as soon as possible.

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6:31pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Maggie Would says...

I hope Mrs Williams is paying business rates if part of her home is being used for business purposes.
I hope Mrs Williams is paying business rates if part of her home is being used for business purposes. Maggie Would

9:13pm Mon 29 Jul 13

Small Town says...

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week.

These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable.

So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake!
Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week. These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable. So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake! Small Town

10:29pm Mon 29 Jul 13

jb says...

Carole Williams, who lives next door to the business, said the fence was not shielding her or her neighbours from spray and was generating more noise than it had before.

Once this fence is taken down will this resident be making any complaints about the noise and spray and expect the car wash owners to request planning permission for another fence or just accept the 'nuisance' aspect they appear to object to? Has anyone from the planning committee actually visited the site I wonder to investigate the substance of the complaints from residents? It appears that one person working at home having to draw their blinds is sufficient to cause quite a lot of financial outlay for a local business trying to provide a service.
Carole Williams, who lives next door to the business, said the fence was not shielding her or her neighbours from spray and was generating more noise than it had before. Once this fence is taken down will this resident be making any complaints about the noise and spray and expect the car wash owners to request planning permission for another fence or just accept the 'nuisance' aspect they appear to object to? Has anyone from the planning committee actually visited the site I wonder to investigate the substance of the complaints from residents? It appears that one person working at home having to draw their blinds is sufficient to cause quite a lot of financial outlay for a local business trying to provide a service. jb

7:16am Tue 30 Jul 13

Maggie Would says...

Small Town wrote:
Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week.

These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable.

So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake!
What a stupendously patronising comment.
I'm quite aware of what 'works from home' means thank you, I used to do it myself when I was a worker drone. Have you considered the possibility that I might have meant it tongue in cheek, mostly to get a rise out of Mrs Williams? A bit subtle for you perhaps, I'll put a smiley face next time just so you can be sure. Here's one just for you now: :-)
I think Mrs Williams and any other complainants have got this all worng anyway. If I had this business next door, I would have negotiated free car washing on a regular basis, plus my drive and patio jetwashed twice a year and I for one certainly wouldn't complain if there were wet men flexing their muscles outside my office window, particularly in the warmer months, What's not to like?
[quote][p][bold]Small Town[/bold] wrote: Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week. These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable. So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake![/p][/quote]What a stupendously patronising comment. I'm quite aware of what 'works from home' means thank you, I used to do it myself when I was a worker drone. Have you considered the possibility that I might have meant it tongue in cheek, mostly to get a rise out of Mrs Williams? A bit subtle for you perhaps, I'll put a smiley face next time just so you can be sure. Here's one just for you now: :-) I think Mrs Williams and any other complainants have got this all worng anyway. If I had this business next door, I would have negotiated free car washing on a regular basis, plus my drive and patio jetwashed twice a year and I for one certainly wouldn't complain if there were wet men flexing their muscles outside my office window, particularly in the warmer months, What's not to like? Maggie Would

8:17am Tue 30 Jul 13

tub_thumper says...

Smiley face 😊
Smiley face 😊 tub_thumper

8:22am Tue 30 Jul 13

tub_thumper says...

Back to the original letter though; if the screen wasn't there then they'll be complaints. Now the screen is there, there are still complaints. There is no other material than can be used other than a piece of 'transparent plastic'. You can't use wood because it'll rot and need maintenance. You can't use metal (too expensive and the noise will probably be worse. What you need is a giant, sound-proofed dome! 😉

What I'm trying to say is that there is no solution other than the business ceasing to trade or you moving from your home.

Get over it!
Back to the original letter though; if the screen wasn't there then they'll be complaints. Now the screen is there, there are still complaints. There is no other material than can be used other than a piece of 'transparent plastic'. You can't use wood because it'll rot and need maintenance. You can't use metal (too expensive and the noise will probably be worse. What you need is a giant, sound-proofed dome! 😉 What I'm trying to say is that there is no solution other than the business ceasing to trade or you moving from your home. Get over it! tub_thumper

8:32am Tue 30 Jul 13

Small Town says...

Maggie Would wrote:
Small Town wrote:
Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week.

These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable.

So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake!
What a stupendously patronising comment.
I'm quite aware of what 'works from home' means thank you, I used to do it myself when I was a worker drone. Have you considered the possibility that I might have meant it tongue in cheek, mostly to get a rise out of Mrs Williams? A bit subtle for you perhaps, I'll put a smiley face next time just so you can be sure. Here's one just for you now: :-)
I think Mrs Williams and any other complainants have got this all worng anyway. If I had this business next door, I would have negotiated free car washing on a regular basis, plus my drive and patio jetwashed twice a year and I for one certainly wouldn't complain if there were wet men flexing their muscles outside my office window, particularly in the warmer months, What's not to like?
Oh Mags, this householder is simply asking that planning laws be enforced to protect her peace, a society without laws is one without structure. For you to attempt to "get a rise" (aka "to troll") a lady who is suffering because of the disregard of the laws of another is to say the least poor.

We can agree on one point though - So long as no planning laws were being broken, if there were women in wet T-shirts shaking their breasts outside my window I for sure wouldn't be complaining.
[quote][p][bold]Maggie Would[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Small Town[/bold] wrote: Maggie, Maggie, Maggie... If you read more carefully it says Mrs Williams "works from home". Now I don't know what you do/did/want to do for work but thousands upon thousands of employees work from home for all or part of the week. These people may be employed by multi-national companies like IBM with sophisticated IT and comms networks, or by SMEs wishing to reduce their office space overheads during these difficult times through teleworking where suitable. So, "Working from home" does not mean "running a business from home" and it certainly does not attract business rates to your property for goodness sake![/p][/quote]What a stupendously patronising comment. I'm quite aware of what 'works from home' means thank you, I used to do it myself when I was a worker drone. Have you considered the possibility that I might have meant it tongue in cheek, mostly to get a rise out of Mrs Williams? A bit subtle for you perhaps, I'll put a smiley face next time just so you can be sure. Here's one just for you now: :-) I think Mrs Williams and any other complainants have got this all worng anyway. If I had this business next door, I would have negotiated free car washing on a regular basis, plus my drive and patio jetwashed twice a year and I for one certainly wouldn't complain if there were wet men flexing their muscles outside my office window, particularly in the warmer months, What's not to like?[/p][/quote]Oh Mags, this householder is simply asking that planning laws be enforced to protect her peace, a society without laws is one without structure. For you to attempt to "get a rise" (aka "to troll") a lady who is suffering because of the disregard of the laws of another is to say the least poor. We can agree on one point though - So long as no planning laws were being broken, if there were women in wet T-shirts shaking their breasts outside my window I for sure wouldn't be complaining. Small Town

9:06am Tue 30 Jul 13

truth must out says...

Yep noisy business washing cars, on a par with pneumatic drills,,,,NOT. Has someone got a major grudge against these guys, they seemed to be vilified whatever they do. I have used this car wash a few times and they are genuine lads just trying to make a living...!!! Draw your blinds Mrs Williams, you are supposed to be working not looking out of the window!!!!
Yep noisy business washing cars, on a par with pneumatic drills,,,,NOT. Has someone got a major grudge against these guys, they seemed to be vilified whatever they do. I have used this car wash a few times and they are genuine lads just trying to make a living...!!! Draw your blinds Mrs Williams, you are supposed to be working not looking out of the window!!!! truth must out

10:45am Tue 30 Jul 13

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

Why would anyone want to have their car washed anyway?
Why would anyone want to have their car washed anyway? Arthur Blenkinsop

9:02am Wed 31 Jul 13

pronstar says...

Arthur Blenkinsop wrote:
Why would anyone want to have their car washed anyway?
What a stupid question
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Blenkinsop[/bold] wrote: Why would anyone want to have their car washed anyway?[/p][/quote]What a stupid question pronstar
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