‘Control pets’ plea to owners using Worcester parks

Worcester News: Gulf veteran Chris Davies takes a nervous stroll with his dogs Maisey and Flynn in Ronkswood park. Picture: John Anyon. 50134770001 Gulf veteran Chris Davies takes a nervous stroll with his dogs Maisey and Flynn in Ronkswood park. Picture: John Anyon. 50134770001

A GULF war veteran who visits a Worcester park says dogs running riot in the field leave him more scared to walk his pets there than he felt during the conflict.

Chris Davies, of Brantwood, Warndon, walks his Welsh border collie Flynn and Sprocker spaniel Maisey, in Ronkswood Meadows.

But he has become concerned that many of his fellow dog-walkers let their pets run riot leaving people frightened to use the park.

“My experience is that probably half a dozen times a walk I have to have words with people who let their dogs go bombing unrestrained all over the field,” said the 43-year-old.

“I have seen a lady jogger sreaming in terror when somebody’s dog jumped up and barked at her.

“The dog-walkers always say they are friendly and don’t move and they won’t hurt you, but no one should have to put up with that sort of thing.

“It just seems they will do anything but the right thing, which is to train your dog and keep it on a lead. My dogs are more wary than they were before and I know people who are scared to take their dogs over there.

“I was a veteran in the Gulf War in the 1990s and I am more scared going over to the field than I ever felt in the war.”

Mr Davies now wants more signs to be put up in the meadows to stop people letting their dogs off the leads when they are not properly trained.

“I have been asking for signs to be put up,” he added. “I have complained about it to the police, who said they are going to try to get some signs put up.”

Worcester City Council, which is responsible for the parks, said they would visit the site.

A spokesman said: “We weren’t aware of any dog- related issues at Ronkswood Meadows, but we will now be visiting the site next week and would like to talk to the gentleman who raised the concerns so we can determine the best course of action to remedy the issue.”

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9:03am Tue 17 Dec 13

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals.
This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals. Arthur Blenkinsop

10:56am Tue 17 Dec 13

BadgerMash says...

Whatever you do don't come to the Malvern Hills to escape the canine menace - here, although dog owners tend to be a little more sensible, we have our hill paths choked with speeding cyclists - and I have the scars to prove what a danger they are to walkers.
Whatever you do don't come to the Malvern Hills to escape the canine menace - here, although dog owners tend to be a little more sensible, we have our hill paths choked with speeding cyclists - and I have the scars to prove what a danger they are to walkers. BadgerMash

11:05am Tue 17 Dec 13

DanMacc says...

All dogs should be banned, I think with the rise in the amount of children being killed by these savage beasts and the fact owners cannot be trusted to be responsible, the only solution is to ban all dog ownership, just like we did with handguns.
All dogs should be banned, I think with the rise in the amount of children being killed by these savage beasts and the fact owners cannot be trusted to be responsible, the only solution is to ban all dog ownership, just like we did with handguns. DanMacc

11:06am Tue 17 Dec 13

tub_thumper says...

BadgerMash wrote:
Whatever you do don't come to the Malvern Hills to escape the canine menace - here, although dog owners tend to be a little more sensible, we have our hill paths choked with speeding cyclists - and I have the scars to prove what a danger they are to walkers.
Cyclists again?!!!?!!

This story is about DOGS ffs!!!!
[quote][p][bold]BadgerMash[/bold] wrote: Whatever you do don't come to the Malvern Hills to escape the canine menace - here, although dog owners tend to be a little more sensible, we have our hill paths choked with speeding cyclists - and I have the scars to prove what a danger they are to walkers.[/p][/quote]Cyclists again?!!!?!! This story is about DOGS ffs!!!! tub_thumper

11:20am Tue 17 Dec 13

Mike67 says...

The vast majority of dog owners are responsible and know which dogs can be let off leads. I own a dog and can trust him to come back to me and also know when he needs to be on a lead. However, I have seen the odd other owner who is totally irresponsible and let dogs run riot, these are the same people who do not clean up after their dogs and I have been sworn at several times when I have witnesed this and asked them to clean up.

It is the way owners treat the dogs that dictates the way they behave and these owners bring a bad name to the vast majority of dog owners
The vast majority of dog owners are responsible and know which dogs can be let off leads. I own a dog and can trust him to come back to me and also know when he needs to be on a lead. However, I have seen the odd other owner who is totally irresponsible and let dogs run riot, these are the same people who do not clean up after their dogs and I have been sworn at several times when I have witnesed this and asked them to clean up. It is the way owners treat the dogs that dictates the way they behave and these owners bring a bad name to the vast majority of dog owners Mike67

11:30am Tue 17 Dec 13

Andy-Apache says...

Come to Malvern and walk near the Bluebell. I imagine the scrote with the bull terrier who head butted the elderly gent might not fare quite as well when taking on an ex-squaddie. :-D
Come to Malvern and walk near the Bluebell. I imagine the scrote with the bull terrier who head butted the elderly gent might not fare quite as well when taking on an ex-squaddie. :-D Andy-Apache

12:04pm Tue 17 Dec 13

cahaph says...

I agree with the guy, there is a massive problem with dog owners walking their dogs off leads in Worcester. I live in the same area and have experienced the same problem. Sadly my dog has been attacked twice whilst on his lead, the second time resulting in my dog needing surgery, to rebuild his ear which was partially bitten off........at my cost!! (Police by the way aren't interested in dealing with such attacks unless its dog on person.)

I have to say it should be a pleasure to walk my dog, but now its frightening.

I realise that not all dogs and owners are aggressive, but I'm now of the opinion that by law dogs should only be walked on a lead, for their's and public safety.
I agree with the guy, there is a massive problem with dog owners walking their dogs off leads in Worcester. I live in the same area and have experienced the same problem. Sadly my dog has been attacked twice whilst on his lead, the second time resulting in my dog needing surgery, to rebuild his ear which was partially bitten off........at my cost!! (Police by the way aren't interested in dealing with such attacks unless its dog on person.) I have to say it should be a pleasure to walk my dog, but now its frightening. I realise that not all dogs and owners are aggressive, but I'm now of the opinion that by law dogs should only be walked on a lead, for their's and public safety. cahaph

12:47pm Tue 17 Dec 13

lilboo says...

More scared than facing a war zone?? Really?? I know which I would prefer!
More scared than facing a war zone?? Really?? I know which I would prefer! lilboo

12:57pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ushmush83 says...

Slight exaggeration perhaps?
Slight exaggeration perhaps? ushmush83

2:50pm Tue 17 Dec 13

lehig76 says...

I 'am' a Gulf War Veteran, not I 'was' a Gulf War Veteran. You are not dead, and you weren't a veteran 'during' the gulf war.

If these accounts are true I totally agree. I allow my two working cockers off the lead all the time, but that's because they do what I tell them to and walk by my side unless they are chasing balls etc. They do not approach other people or animals of any kind because that is how they have been trained. As for banning dogs.......!
I 'am' a Gulf War Veteran, not I 'was' a Gulf War Veteran. You are not dead, and you weren't a veteran 'during' the gulf war. If these accounts are true I totally agree. I allow my two working cockers off the lead all the time, but that's because they do what I tell them to and walk by my side unless they are chasing balls etc. They do not approach other people or animals of any kind because that is how they have been trained. As for banning dogs.......! lehig76

3:12pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Bufton Tufton says...

I like dogs but the dog population has doubled in 20 years and here in Malvern I almost think we are infested with them. Why do some people seem to have not one, not two, but a whole pack of dogs? On Malvern Link Common a few days ago I observed five dogs, off the lead, accompanied by one person, encircling another dog walker who had his dog well under control and on a lead; not surprisingly he looked rather nervous. I often think it prudent to take a diversion when walking on the commons and hills around Malvern to give a wide berth between myself and a large dog or dogs off the lead and running about wildly. Usually they do not constitute a risk but the point is, you never know. Once I was barked at aggressively and followed by an apparently unaccompanied dog only to be told by the owner when she appeared some minutes later "Hes only a barker". Well he might only have been a barker but he was intimidating me. WE should have similar laws to many counties on the continent, large dogs should be muzzled in public. I have also decided that the time has come to arm myself with a pepper spray, just in case.
I like dogs but the dog population has doubled in 20 years and here in Malvern I almost think we are infested with them. Why do some people seem to have not one, not two, but a whole pack of dogs? On Malvern Link Common a few days ago I observed five dogs, off the lead, accompanied by one person, encircling another dog walker who had his dog well under control and on a lead; not surprisingly he looked rather nervous. I often think it prudent to take a diversion when walking on the commons and hills around Malvern to give a wide berth between myself and a large dog or dogs off the lead and running about wildly. Usually they do not constitute a risk but the point is, you never know. Once I was barked at aggressively and followed by an apparently unaccompanied dog only to be told by the owner when she appeared some minutes later "Hes only a barker". Well he might only have been a barker but he was intimidating me. WE should have similar laws to many counties on the continent, large dogs should be muzzled in public. I have also decided that the time has come to arm myself with a pepper spray, just in case. Bufton Tufton

10:23pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Gruszeczka says...

What about Husky ....they can't bark , don't judge dogs , blame the owners.
What about Husky ....they can't bark , don't judge dogs , blame the owners. Gruszeczka

3:47am Wed 18 Dec 13

chriskez says...

Arthur Blenkinsop wrote:
This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals.
This is why I stick to the same fields, at least I can recognise most of the problem owners and do my best to avoid them. Not really ideal having to backtrack and dodge around when I have limited time to walk my extremely well trained animals, and I often still end getting harassed by dogs at some point.
Just to clarify, as I have been quite badly mis-quoted in this article- (surprise). My problem is not always with aggressive animals but with ones that are let off the lead with zero recall ability. They either jump up me, covering me in mud or make a bee-line for my dogs, who are not even slightly interested in other dogs. When I call out to the owners, who are often several hundred feet away,to call their dog away from me I am nearly always met with hostility and the obligitory "he's only being friendly". If I then explain that my collie can be quite reactive to other dogs charging up to him and even more so at them jumping up his master, I am then met with comments such as "it should be muzzled then or even on a few occasions "destroyed".
Both my dogs have been attacked several times, even when on their leads. I recently walked onto the field, both dogs on leads. I saw a dog owner a hundred feet away with two labs, both off lead. I started walking in the opposite direction but didn't get twenty feet before the one lab literally threw itself into my dogs. A fight broke out and I had no choice but to throw the leads down or risk being bitten. The owner came over and said "sorry, he was just coming over to play" and that my dog had attacked his -even though he was a hundred feet away with his animals off lead and mine were on their leads. Obviously I had quite a lot to say about this but was met with nothing but scorn and insults for my trouble. I have had many, many similar encounters. There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Blenkinsop[/bold] wrote: This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals.[/p][/quote]This is why I stick to the same fields, at least I can recognise most of the problem owners and do my best to avoid them. Not really ideal having to backtrack and dodge around when I have limited time to walk my extremely well trained animals, and I often still end getting harassed by dogs at some point. Just to clarify, as I have been quite badly mis-quoted in this article- (surprise). My problem is not always with aggressive animals but with ones that are let off the lead with zero recall ability. They either jump up me, covering me in mud or make a bee-line for my dogs, who are not even slightly interested in other dogs. When I call out to the owners, who are often several hundred feet away,to call their dog away from me I am nearly always met with hostility and the obligitory "he's only being friendly". If I then explain that my collie can be quite reactive to other dogs charging up to him and even more so at them jumping up his master, I am then met with comments such as "it should be muzzled then or even on a few occasions "destroyed". Both my dogs have been attacked several times, even when on their leads. I recently walked onto the field, both dogs on leads. I saw a dog owner a hundred feet away with two labs, both off lead. I started walking in the opposite direction but didn't get twenty feet before the one lab literally threw itself into my dogs. A fight broke out and I had no choice but to throw the leads down or risk being bitten. The owner came over and said "sorry, he was just coming over to play" and that my dog had attacked his -even though he was a hundred feet away with his animals off lead and mine were on their leads. Obviously I had quite a lot to say about this but was met with nothing but scorn and insults for my trouble. I have had many, many similar encounters. There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple chriskez

10:17am Wed 18 Dec 13

Andy-Apache says...

chriskez wrote:
Arthur Blenkinsop wrote:
This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals.
This is why I stick to the same fields, at least I can recognise most of the problem owners and do my best to avoid them. Not really ideal having to backtrack and dodge around when I have limited time to walk my extremely well trained animals, and I often still end getting harassed by dogs at some point.
Just to clarify, as I have been quite badly mis-quoted in this article- (surprise). My problem is not always with aggressive animals but with ones that are let off the lead with zero recall ability. They either jump up me, covering me in mud or make a bee-line for my dogs, who are not even slightly interested in other dogs. When I call out to the owners, who are often several hundred feet away,to call their dog away from me I am nearly always met with hostility and the obligitory "he's only being friendly". If I then explain that my collie can be quite reactive to other dogs charging up to him and even more so at them jumping up his master, I am then met with comments such as "it should be muzzled then or even on a few occasions "destroyed".
Both my dogs have been attacked several times, even when on their leads. I recently walked onto the field, both dogs on leads. I saw a dog owner a hundred feet away with two labs, both off lead. I started walking in the opposite direction but didn't get twenty feet before the one lab literally threw itself into my dogs. A fight broke out and I had no choice but to throw the leads down or risk being bitten. The owner came over and said "sorry, he was just coming over to play" and that my dog had attacked his -even though he was a hundred feet away with his animals off lead and mine were on their leads. Obviously I had quite a lot to say about this but was met with nothing but scorn and insults for my trouble. I have had many, many similar encounters. There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple
"There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple"

Spot on. I walk / cycle to work and my route used to take across the top of Link common. Several times I've had dogs jump up at me, sometimes playfully, sometimes not, but frequently end up with muddy pawprints on my work clothes. Brilliant!

As you say, the owners quite often moan at me for not 'keeping still / being there / spooking the dog'! I got to the point where I thought I might keep a stick at hand and give them a quick smack across the chops to teach them a lesson (the owner, not the dog)
[quote][p][bold]chriskez[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Blenkinsop[/bold] wrote: This is a problem everywhere where people walk their dogs - canal bank, Pitchcroft, river bank etc. and he is quite right, people should be more responsible for their anaimals, and, like him, i find myself regularly having to ask people to control their animal. Also, some of the owners are every bit as aggressive and untrained as their animals.[/p][/quote]This is why I stick to the same fields, at least I can recognise most of the problem owners and do my best to avoid them. Not really ideal having to backtrack and dodge around when I have limited time to walk my extremely well trained animals, and I often still end getting harassed by dogs at some point. Just to clarify, as I have been quite badly mis-quoted in this article- (surprise). My problem is not always with aggressive animals but with ones that are let off the lead with zero recall ability. They either jump up me, covering me in mud or make a bee-line for my dogs, who are not even slightly interested in other dogs. When I call out to the owners, who are often several hundred feet away,to call their dog away from me I am nearly always met with hostility and the obligitory "he's only being friendly". If I then explain that my collie can be quite reactive to other dogs charging up to him and even more so at them jumping up his master, I am then met with comments such as "it should be muzzled then or even on a few occasions "destroyed". Both my dogs have been attacked several times, even when on their leads. I recently walked onto the field, both dogs on leads. I saw a dog owner a hundred feet away with two labs, both off lead. I started walking in the opposite direction but didn't get twenty feet before the one lab literally threw itself into my dogs. A fight broke out and I had no choice but to throw the leads down or risk being bitten. The owner came over and said "sorry, he was just coming over to play" and that my dog had attacked his -even though he was a hundred feet away with his animals off lead and mine were on their leads. Obviously I had quite a lot to say about this but was met with nothing but scorn and insults for my trouble. I have had many, many similar encounters. There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple[/p][/quote]"There is no grey area, either train your dogs to recall %100 or don't let them off lead in a public place, its that simple" Spot on. I walk / cycle to work and my route used to take across the top of Link common. Several times I've had dogs jump up at me, sometimes playfully, sometimes not, but frequently end up with muddy pawprints on my work clothes. Brilliant! As you say, the owners quite often moan at me for not 'keeping still / being there / spooking the dog'! I got to the point where I thought I might keep a stick at hand and give them a quick smack across the chops to teach them a lesson (the owner, not the dog) Andy-Apache

10:22am Wed 18 Dec 13

MJI says...

I know of a couple of very well behaved dogs, one near work and one of my neighbours.
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They are nice dogs.
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I have come across troublesome dogs, their owners need a good backsde kicking.
I know of a couple of very well behaved dogs, one near work and one of my neighbours. . They are nice dogs. . I have come across troublesome dogs, their owners need a good backsde kicking. MJI

11:23am Wed 18 Dec 13

Endconreignforever says...

Dogs are animals let us not forget that. They are unpredictable like any animal. On public paths they should be kept on leads or be muzzled. I have two toddlers and whenever we walk in Diglis park or along the river they get scared by some big dogs that are running free. I grew up with a dog and we used to drive out to Kempsey or find a quiet area where we could go and there were no people around. We always picked up her poo but so often in Diglis people just let their dogs poo anywhere ..even outside our house when there is a dog bin across the road. Education and training both for dogs and owners is also needed and should be paid for by the owners.
Dogs are animals let us not forget that. They are unpredictable like any animal. On public paths they should be kept on leads or be muzzled. I have two toddlers and whenever we walk in Diglis park or along the river they get scared by some big dogs that are running free. I grew up with a dog and we used to drive out to Kempsey or find a quiet area where we could go and there were no people around. We always picked up her poo but so often in Diglis people just let their dogs poo anywhere ..even outside our house when there is a dog bin across the road. Education and training both for dogs and owners is also needed and should be paid for by the owners. Endconreignforever

10:51am Wed 8 Jan 14

Monk672 says...

All dogs on leads full stop. I now take my dog on a long walk at 2 in the morning to avoid such ignorant idiots who walk there dogs off there leads. My dog was attacked last week, my dog on lead, there dog off lead. If his dog was on a lead, nothing would of happened, simple really. It should be the law, all dogs on leads.
All dogs on leads full stop. I now take my dog on a long walk at 2 in the morning to avoid such ignorant idiots who walk there dogs off there leads. My dog was attacked last week, my dog on lead, there dog off lead. If his dog was on a lead, nothing would of happened, simple really. It should be the law, all dogs on leads. Monk672

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