Worcester MP Robin Walker criticised over food bank debate

Worcester News: Robin Walker says he doesn't want to get into a "tit-for-tat" debate with his election rival Robin Walker says he doesn't want to get into a "tit-for-tat" debate with his election rival

WORCESTER MP Robin Walker has come under fire for not taking part in a House of Commons debate on food banks – with his Labour rival taking a pop at him for “failing” the city.

Councillor Joy Squires, Worcester’s Labour parliamentary candidate, says Mr Walker avoided the plight of thousands of families on the breadline.

But her attack has been refuted by the Conservative, who said he was tied up elsewhere at Parliament on Wednesday.

He also told your Worcester News he didn’t want to get into a “tit for tat” debate with her, and that the first food bank opened in 2001, in Salisbury, when the Labour party was in power.

A House of Commons debate saw scores of MPs line up to criticise the Government for the growth of food banks nationwide.

Coun Squires said: “Mr Walker was around to ask a headline-grabbing question at Prime Minister’s Questions about how Worcester has weathered the recession, but chose not to speak up on behalf of the 4,000 Worcester families who have been referred by agencies for emergency food parcels from our food bank.

“Many of these people are in work, but are earning so little on zero hours or part time contracts that they cannot make ends meet.

“I’m glad the economy is showing signs of recovery but for so many in Worcester it does not feel like one – too many are in severe financial hardship with nothing to fall back on if things go wrong.

“Wages have stagnated and have been outstripped by prices in all but one of the 41 months David Cameron has been Prime Minister.

“That is not a record for Robin Walker to be proud of.”

However, Mr Walker said he was speaking at a debate over children’s hospices and could not be in two places at once.

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“The whole thing is rather distasteful, I think Worcester’s food bank is a very worthy organisation which does important work,” he said.

“People who volunteer there do it for the best of reasons. I don’t think people should play politics with this debate.

“The number of food banks has been growing for a very long time and the first one was in 2001, in Salisbury, in the UK.

“The best way you can help people is by creating more jobs and allowing them to earn more money.”

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2:54pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Samboy says...

Joyless Squires is taking cheap 'pops' at Walker once again. Genuine criticism would be welcome but these snide attacks are symptomatic of a would-be politician who has nothing original to offer. Whatever happened to good old fashioned political rhetoric.
Joyless Squires is taking cheap 'pops' at Walker once again. Genuine criticism would be welcome but these snide attacks are symptomatic of a would-be politician who has nothing original to offer. Whatever happened to good old fashioned political rhetoric. Samboy

3:20pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Europeanist64 says...

I watched all 3 hours of the debate on parliament.tv. ( Yes, I do have other things in my life, but this issues is important to me. )

Walker was nowhere to be seen. Other local Tory MPs such as James Norris of Halesowen and Rowley Regis acknowledged and praised the work of his local food bank.

Watching the behaviour of the Tory mob of MPs was frankly and horrendous indicator of their contempt for the most needy and very vulnerable in our country. Many Tory MPs just laughed and barracked through the whole debate. Very chilling was the dismissive contempt of the poor food bank users by the Employment minister Esther McVey who delivered the government's purile response in the debate.

Many food bank users are working and local food banks report that they are issuing food to families with children. Food banks are shocking indictment on what is happening in Britain. The economy is getting richer but people are getting poorer and living standards are falling for most, especially among the poorest.

The UK is actually re-distributing wealth form the poorer income groups up to the rich.

Those who argue against food banks tend to use stereo-types of "smoking single mothers, with prams full of kids and SKY TV" the reality is that 60% of the UK's poor are working people.

The reason Walker doesn't want to debate food banks is because he couldn't care less about those Worcester people living in poverty and the growth in poverty is the shame of this government which manages the economy, in the 6th richest nation in the world, which has 800,000 people being fed by food banks.
I watched all 3 hours of the debate on parliament.tv. ( Yes, I do have other things in my life, but this issues is important to me. ) Walker was nowhere to be seen. Other local Tory MPs such as James Norris of Halesowen and Rowley Regis acknowledged and praised the work of his local food bank. Watching the behaviour of the Tory mob of MPs was frankly and horrendous indicator of their contempt for the most needy and very vulnerable in our country. Many Tory MPs just laughed and barracked through the whole debate. Very chilling was the dismissive contempt of the poor food bank users by the Employment minister Esther McVey who delivered the government's purile response in the debate. Many food bank users are working and local food banks report that they are issuing food to families with children. Food banks are shocking indictment on what is happening in Britain. The economy is getting richer but people are getting poorer and living standards are falling for most, especially among the poorest. The UK is actually re-distributing wealth form the poorer income groups up to the rich. Those who argue against food banks tend to use stereo-types of "smoking single mothers, with prams full of kids and SKY TV" the reality is that 60% of the UK's poor are working people. The reason Walker doesn't want to debate food banks is because he couldn't care less about those Worcester people living in poverty and the growth in poverty is the shame of this government which manages the economy, in the 6th richest nation in the world, which has 800,000 people being fed by food banks. Europeanist64

4:14pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Keith B says...

Be fair ... the debate had around 30 speakers. That mean some 590 MP's didn't take part .... from Dennis Skinner to Peter Bone.

And I'm digging at neither of them .... both MP's are excellent MP's .... doesn't mean they have to be bobbing up and down all the time.

But, yes it was a good news release to remind people that she exists.

Now remind me ... Dorothy Squires .... good singer ... I'd vote for her!
Be fair ... the debate had around 30 speakers. That mean some 590 MP's didn't take part .... from Dennis Skinner to Peter Bone. And I'm digging at neither of them .... both MP's are excellent MP's .... doesn't mean they have to be bobbing up and down all the time. But, yes it was a good news release to remind people that she exists. Now remind me ... Dorothy Squires .... good singer ... I'd vote for her! Keith B

5:12pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Guy66 says...

Europeanist64 wrote:
I watched all 3 hours of the debate on parliament.tv. ( Yes, I do have other things in my life, but this issues is important to me. )

Walker was nowhere to be seen. Other local Tory MPs such as James Norris of Halesowen and Rowley Regis acknowledged and praised the work of his local food bank.

Watching the behaviour of the Tory mob of MPs was frankly and horrendous indicator of their contempt for the most needy and very vulnerable in our country. Many Tory MPs just laughed and barracked through the whole debate. Very chilling was the dismissive contempt of the poor food bank users by the Employment minister Esther McVey who delivered the government's purile response in the debate.

Many food bank users are working and local food banks report that they are issuing food to families with children. Food banks are shocking indictment on what is happening in Britain. The economy is getting richer but people are getting poorer and living standards are falling for most, especially among the poorest.

The UK is actually re-distributing wealth form the poorer income groups up to the rich.

Those who argue against food banks tend to use stereo-types of "smoking single mothers, with prams full of kids and SKY TV" the reality is that 60% of the UK's poor are working people.

The reason Walker doesn't want to debate food banks is because he couldn't care less about those Worcester people living in poverty and the growth in poverty is the shame of this government which manages the economy, in the 6th richest nation in the world, which has 800,000 people being fed by food banks.
It really would help if you were able to read past the headline and paragraph 1 - see paragraph 3 "But her attack has been refuted by the Conservative, who said he was tied up elsewhere at Parliament on Wednesday". Mr Walker was engaged on other Parliamentary business. I guess you've not tried being in two places at the same time have you?
[quote][p][bold]Europeanist64[/bold] wrote: I watched all 3 hours of the debate on parliament.tv. ( Yes, I do have other things in my life, but this issues is important to me. ) Walker was nowhere to be seen. Other local Tory MPs such as James Norris of Halesowen and Rowley Regis acknowledged and praised the work of his local food bank. Watching the behaviour of the Tory mob of MPs was frankly and horrendous indicator of their contempt for the most needy and very vulnerable in our country. Many Tory MPs just laughed and barracked through the whole debate. Very chilling was the dismissive contempt of the poor food bank users by the Employment minister Esther McVey who delivered the government's purile response in the debate. Many food bank users are working and local food banks report that they are issuing food to families with children. Food banks are shocking indictment on what is happening in Britain. The economy is getting richer but people are getting poorer and living standards are falling for most, especially among the poorest. The UK is actually re-distributing wealth form the poorer income groups up to the rich. Those who argue against food banks tend to use stereo-types of "smoking single mothers, with prams full of kids and SKY TV" the reality is that 60% of the UK's poor are working people. The reason Walker doesn't want to debate food banks is because he couldn't care less about those Worcester people living in poverty and the growth in poverty is the shame of this government which manages the economy, in the 6th richest nation in the world, which has 800,000 people being fed by food banks.[/p][/quote]It really would help if you were able to read past the headline and paragraph 1 - see paragraph 3 "But her attack has been refuted by the Conservative, who said he was tied up elsewhere at Parliament on Wednesday". Mr Walker was engaged on other Parliamentary business. I guess you've not tried being in two places at the same time have you? Guy66

5:26pm Mon 23 Dec 13

MJI says...

So why is Squires having a go at Childrens Hospices?
So why is Squires having a go at Childrens Hospices? MJI

6:39pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Doogie 46 says...

It`s about time Joy Squires stopped hoping that doing nothing more than aiming meaningless digs at Robin Walker will get her into parliament - I suspect if he had missed the children`s hospice debate in favour of the food banks debate she would be trying to make something out of that.
"Robin Walker doesn`t care about sick children...." she would probably screech!!!
It`s about time Joy Squires stopped hoping that doing nothing more than aiming meaningless digs at Robin Walker will get her into parliament - I suspect if he had missed the children`s hospice debate in favour of the food banks debate she would be trying to make something out of that. "Robin Walker doesn`t care about sick children...." she would probably screech!!! Doogie 46

7:49pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Keith B says...

Dorothy Squires is hoping to get in Parliament on the back of an all woman short list. Quite frankly that puts my back up straight away. Selection should be on merit, not on race, creed, colour or sex. I wouldn't vote for Labour in Worcester just on that principle. We might as well have an all homosexual short list just to make sure that GBLT's (are those the right initials) have a proportional representation too.

And I still want to know how Jack Dromy got in on an all woman's short list. Do you think that wifey Harry Harperson had something to do with it?
Dorothy Squires is hoping to get in Parliament on the back of an all woman short list. Quite frankly that puts my back up straight away. Selection should be on merit, not on race, creed, colour or sex. I wouldn't vote for Labour in Worcester just on that principle. We might as well have an all homosexual short list just to make sure that GBLT's (are those the right initials) have a proportional representation too. And I still want to know how Jack Dromy got in on an all woman's short list. Do you think that wifey Harry Harperson had something to do with it? Keith B

9:48pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Paul Oldroyd says...

Squires needs to read her script properly. Walker has been a firm supporter of disadvantaged people in this city.
Squires needs to read her script properly. Walker has been a firm supporter of disadvantaged people in this city. Paul Oldroyd

9:12am Tue 24 Dec 13

voledog says...

I'm sure Robin Walker learned everything he ever needs to know about the disadvantaged in society when he attended the same posh public school that George Osborne went to. Robin Walker certainly comes across as a nice bloke but it really is time we replaced the privileged (and those who get given a seat because daddy was also an MP) with some real people that are a bit more in touch with rest of society and particularly with the less well off.
I'm sure Robin Walker learned everything he ever needs to know about the disadvantaged in society when he attended the same posh public school that George Osborne went to. Robin Walker certainly comes across as a nice bloke but it really is time we replaced the privileged (and those who get given a seat because daddy was also an MP) with some real people that are a bit more in touch with rest of society and particularly with the less well off. voledog

11:11am Tue 24 Dec 13

Keith B says...

voledog wrote:
I'm sure Robin Walker learned everything he ever needs to know about the disadvantaged in society when he attended the same posh public school that George Osborne went to. Robin Walker certainly comes across as a nice bloke but it really is time we replaced the privileged (and those who get given a seat because daddy was also an MP) with some real people that are a bit more in touch with rest of society and particularly with the less well off.
Actually - he possibly did because public schools really are a fantastic all embracing education. I went to both Prep school and a minor Public School - paid for by my 1950's single mother (frowned upon in those days) who worked very very hard in order to pay for the best education possible for her child. No help - no inherited money. Just graft. I wasn't posh, snobbish or particularly clever.

But my school has given me advantages, not by who I know but in the values it taught me. I came out of it a left wing young socialist and have slowly moved right as I got older. It gave me the confidence to stand for Parliament, but I WON my selection - nobody gave it to me because who my Daddy was because I didn't know who my Daddy was until 1997. In fact it must have been in my genes because he too was active in politics - but in his native Australia where he was a friend and colleague of Gough Witlam (the PM).

So, while a few clearly have the advantages of good contacts, don't assume people are "given" seats - they have to earn them through personality, desire and probably an inherited gene that points them in a direction of politics much as a footballers son might have both the inherited skill and inclination to become a footballer, or actors whose children and grandchildren become actors like the Richardson or Redgrave families.

From Hilary Benn on the left to Bill Wiggin on the right the fact that Daddy was an MP helped I'm sure, but isn't the only thing that got them into Parliament.
[quote][p][bold]voledog[/bold] wrote: I'm sure Robin Walker learned everything he ever needs to know about the disadvantaged in society when he attended the same posh public school that George Osborne went to. Robin Walker certainly comes across as a nice bloke but it really is time we replaced the privileged (and those who get given a seat because daddy was also an MP) with some real people that are a bit more in touch with rest of society and particularly with the less well off.[/p][/quote]Actually - he possibly did because public schools really are a fantastic all embracing education. I went to both Prep school and a minor Public School - paid for by my 1950's single mother (frowned upon in those days) who worked very very hard in order to pay for the best education possible for her child. No help - no inherited money. Just graft. I wasn't posh, snobbish or particularly clever. But my school has given me advantages, not by who I know but in the values it taught me. I came out of it a left wing young socialist and have slowly moved right as I got older. It gave me the confidence to stand for Parliament, but I WON my selection - nobody gave it to me because who my Daddy was because I didn't know who my Daddy was until 1997. In fact it must have been in my genes because he too was active in politics - but in his native Australia where he was a friend and colleague of Gough Witlam (the PM). So, while a few clearly have the advantages of good contacts, don't assume people are "given" seats - they have to earn them through personality, desire and probably an inherited gene that points them in a direction of politics much as a footballers son might have both the inherited skill and inclination to become a footballer, or actors whose children and grandchildren become actors like the Richardson or Redgrave families. From Hilary Benn on the left to Bill Wiggin on the right the fact that Daddy was an MP helped I'm sure, but isn't the only thing that got them into Parliament. Keith B

11:53am Tue 24 Dec 13

voledog says...

Keith, you are certainly lucky that your mother was able to put you through a minor public school off her own back. I'm sure all the single mums in Warndon and Dines Green will take note and stop wasting their money on rent, fuel bills and in Poundland and instead start saving up for those £15000 a year school fees so their kids can have the advantage you did.
Keith, you are certainly lucky that your mother was able to put you through a minor public school off her own back. I'm sure all the single mums in Warndon and Dines Green will take note and stop wasting their money on rent, fuel bills and in Poundland and instead start saving up for those £15000 a year school fees so their kids can have the advantage you did. voledog

12:18pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Doogie 46 says...

If a "posh public school "education is a bar to understanding the disadvantaged, why do the "disadvantaged" vote Labour who have traditionally been dominated by public school and Oxbridge educated toffs?
Robin Walker has not made a bad fist of his first term in parliament - I`d certainly rate him far higher than the unlamented Michael Foster.
Perhaps Joy Sqires would like to comment positively on Mr Walker`s commitment to the hospice movement (which he acknowledges helped his family greatly during father`s his final illness) .
If a "posh public school "education is a bar to understanding the disadvantaged, why do the "disadvantaged" vote Labour who have traditionally been dominated by public school and Oxbridge educated toffs? Robin Walker has not made a bad fist of his first term in parliament - I`d certainly rate him far higher than the unlamented Michael Foster. Perhaps Joy Sqires would like to comment positively on Mr Walker`s commitment to the hospice movement (which he acknowledges helped his family greatly during father`s his final illness) . Doogie 46

12:28pm Tue 24 Dec 13

canuck7 says...

So... Mr Walker was "tied up",so that's his reason he could'nt join in the food bank debate?, , i hope Mr walker has reported this incident to the police. or was this being tied up in something he gave his consent too?!. Seroiusly, i don't believe his lies. i suggest he had absolutey no intention of attending this debate because he is not interested and has no concerns for the nations poor. he. like all the other 187 politicians who did'nt attend ARE ON THE GRAVY TRAIN, so it's a case of - I'm alright, Jack!
So... Mr Walker was "tied up",so that's his reason he could'nt join in the food bank debate?, , i hope Mr walker has reported this incident to the police. or was this being tied up in something he gave his consent too?!. Seroiusly, i don't believe his lies. i suggest he had absolutey no intention of attending this debate because he is not interested and has no concerns for the nations poor. he. like all the other 187 politicians who did'nt attend ARE ON THE GRAVY TRAIN, so it's a case of - I'm alright, Jack! canuck7

1:33pm Tue 24 Dec 13

CarlWPF says...

Canuck - what a lazy commentator you are. You seem able to make your way onto the Worcester News website to libel Robin Walker but do not possess any initiative or research skills. In approximately 30 seconds, I Googled the words "children" " hospice" and "Westminster" and before my eyes, several 'on the record' websites appeared, including Hansard which contain the transcript of the debate that Robin Walker attended. You were either too lazy to investigate or simply have an agenda. Not only does the article inform readers as to the reason that Robin Walker could not be in two places at once but the internet is an easy tool that people can use to research the authenticity of the content of the piece.

I guess there are too sides to the internet. It can be used constructively as a great source of information through those with the motivation to learn can do so. But it also has a negative side....It is an nice easy place for trolls to inhabit and denigrate others without having to get off their backsides.

Robin Walker is a first rate MP. He has no need to apologise for prioritising terminally ill children over families on the breadline and does not deserve to be on the receiving end of cheap politically motivated jibes. Any "neutral" reading this article and this thread would soon be able to identify the people who have integrity (Robin Walker amongst them) and those who are lacking in that department.
Canuck - what a lazy commentator you are. You seem able to make your way onto the Worcester News website to libel Robin Walker but do not possess any initiative or research skills. In approximately 30 seconds, I Googled the words "children" " hospice" and "Westminster" and before my eyes, several 'on the record' websites appeared, including Hansard which contain the transcript of the debate that Robin Walker attended. You were either too lazy to investigate or simply have an agenda. Not only does the article inform readers as to the reason that Robin Walker could not be in two places at once but the internet is an easy tool that people can use to research the authenticity of the content of the piece. I guess there are too sides to the internet. It can be used constructively as a great source of information through those with the motivation to learn can do so. But it also has a negative side....It is an nice easy place for trolls to inhabit and denigrate others without having to get off their backsides. Robin Walker is a first rate MP. He has no need to apologise for prioritising terminally ill children over families on the breadline and does not deserve to be on the receiving end of cheap politically motivated jibes. Any "neutral" reading this article and this thread would soon be able to identify the people who have integrity (Robin Walker amongst them) and those who are lacking in that department. CarlWPF

2:32pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Jabbadad says...

Any criticism against MP's particularly Tories brings out those who wish to try to defend the indefensible, known as their MPs, who are a bunch of have-gots who don't give a fig about the have-nots. In fact theTories are presently deeply involved in taking away as much as they can from the most Vulnerable, Disabled and Elderly in this Country. And I say this Country since there is £Hundreds of Millions going out from this Country each week with the blessings of the Tories, to many who have never set foot in this country let alone worked here.
So support all you want your Tory figureheads, while THOUSANDS in this City due to TORY CUTS are about to lose yet more services from Sheltered Housing where many vulnerable elderly people having worked hard all their lives currently live, and are literally being ABANDONED by the TORIES. And those of you who flock to these columns to attempt to defend these draconian policies are no better than those who by way of stopping essential services are robbing / attacking the poor in our society.
Be It THE QUIETE MAN IAAN DUNCAN SMITH Who is still taking as much as he can off the Vulnerable while WASTING HUNDREDS of £MILLIONS on yet another failed IT SCHEME or the ERIC PICKLES, who certainly looks as if somewhere in his lifetime he has gone without
A HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL TORY HUMBUGS.
As to a HAPPY NEW YEAR it would mean that the LIB / LAB / DEM / TORY's would regain just some backbone and force a general election where the Tories would lose enough seats to have a more balanced Government even Tri-Partate and end their war on our elderly even risking our Cameron boasted £2.20 State Pension Rise less of course deductions from any Pensions Savings Credits in 2014.
Any criticism against MP's particularly Tories brings out those who wish to try to defend the indefensible, known as their MPs, who are a bunch of have-gots who don't give a fig about the have-nots. In fact theTories are presently deeply involved in taking away as much as they can from the most Vulnerable, Disabled and Elderly in this Country. And I say this Country since there is £Hundreds of Millions going out from this Country each week with the blessings of the Tories, to many who have never set foot in this country let alone worked here. So support all you want your Tory figureheads, while THOUSANDS in this City due to TORY CUTS are about to lose yet more services from Sheltered Housing where many vulnerable elderly people having worked hard all their lives currently live, and are literally being ABANDONED by the TORIES. And those of you who flock to these columns to attempt to defend these draconian policies are no better than those who by way of stopping essential services are robbing / attacking the poor in our society. Be It THE QUIETE MAN IAAN DUNCAN SMITH Who is still taking as much as he can off the Vulnerable while WASTING HUNDREDS of £MILLIONS on yet another failed IT SCHEME or the ERIC PICKLES, who certainly looks as if somewhere in his lifetime he has gone without A HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL TORY HUMBUGS. As to a HAPPY NEW YEAR it would mean that the LIB / LAB / DEM / TORY's would regain just some backbone and force a general election where the Tories would lose enough seats to have a more balanced Government even Tri-Partate and end their war on our elderly even risking our Cameron boasted £2.20 State Pension Rise less of course deductions from any Pensions Savings Credits in 2014. Jabbadad

8:34pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Keith B says...

Looks like Jabbadad has been on an early Christmas bottle of Brandy.

The war on the elderly must go on. Work them till they drop otherwise they will be taking all the younger peoples money in pensions. Sod the fact that they paid National Insurance all their working lives in order to save for the pension which the Government failed to put in a pension fund but spent it on wars on Iraq, Afghanistan, Suez, Argentina, Kenya, Aden, Malaya ..... (there's only been one year since 1945 when Britain hasn't been at war with somebody), Or on great schemes like the O2, Corby Steelworks, British Leyland, BBC executive pay off's, million pound firework displays in London at midnight on new years day .......... and so on.

We need to cull the elderly to stop them taking all our money so we can spend it on ipods, mobile phone, widescreen tv's, expensive trainers, Chelsea Tractors, voting for X factor, and more mod cons for the home.

oopppps - 60 on Boxing Day. We must support the elderly, raise the pension, give out Bus Passes and heating allowances ..........
Looks like Jabbadad has been on an early Christmas bottle of Brandy. The war on the elderly must go on. Work them till they drop otherwise they will be taking all the younger peoples money in pensions. Sod the fact that they paid National Insurance all their working lives in order to save for the pension which the Government failed to put in a pension fund but spent it on wars on Iraq, Afghanistan, Suez, Argentina, Kenya, Aden, Malaya ..... (there's only been one year since 1945 when Britain hasn't been at war with somebody), Or on great schemes like the O2, Corby Steelworks, British Leyland, BBC executive pay off's, million pound firework displays in London at midnight on new years day .......... and so on. We need to cull the elderly to stop them taking all our money so we can spend it on ipods, mobile phone, widescreen tv's, expensive trainers, Chelsea Tractors, voting for X factor, and more mod cons for the home. oopppps - 60 on Boxing Day. We must support the elderly, raise the pension, give out Bus Passes and heating allowances .......... Keith B

8:54pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Keith B says...

voledog wrote:
Keith, you are certainly lucky that your mother was able to put you through a minor public school off her own back. I'm sure all the single mums in Warndon and Dines Green will take note and stop wasting their money on rent, fuel bills and in Poundland and instead start saving up for those £15000 a year school fees so their kids can have the advantage you did.
That's the point - she WAS a single Mum from an estate just like Warndon. But she worked hard to gain promotions in her career and earn enough money to send me to those schools. But she didn't waste it on nightclubbing, nail bars, smoking, boozing and partying even though the swinging sixties were going on all around her to tempt her. Which is why I now spend my time helping a paralysed old lady who can only sit in a chair, to do the basics in life from toileting to eating. And one thing she did do when she stopped paying out those school fees was save for a pension - from which she now is able to stay warm and fund herself into old age. It's all about choices we make in life - and one of those choices is to vote in a responsible Government that won't empty the Country's coffers leaving out children and their children to suffer the debt, as did the last Governments of Blair and Brown.

Yes - I was lucky - but don't knock it. What my Mum did was what every parent should do. It's their job - as it is mine to do my best for my children.
[quote][p][bold]voledog[/bold] wrote: Keith, you are certainly lucky that your mother was able to put you through a minor public school off her own back. I'm sure all the single mums in Warndon and Dines Green will take note and stop wasting their money on rent, fuel bills and in Poundland and instead start saving up for those £15000 a year school fees so their kids can have the advantage you did.[/p][/quote]That's the point - she WAS a single Mum from an estate just like Warndon. But she worked hard to gain promotions in her career and earn enough money to send me to those schools. But she didn't waste it on nightclubbing, nail bars, smoking, boozing and partying even though the swinging sixties were going on all around her to tempt her. Which is why I now spend my time helping a paralysed old lady who can only sit in a chair, to do the basics in life from toileting to eating. And one thing she did do when she stopped paying out those school fees was save for a pension - from which she now is able to stay warm and fund herself into old age. It's all about choices we make in life - and one of those choices is to vote in a responsible Government that won't empty the Country's coffers leaving out children and their children to suffer the debt, as did the last Governments of Blair and Brown. Yes - I was lucky - but don't knock it. What my Mum did was what every parent should do. It's their job - as it is mine to do my best for my children. Keith B

11:36pm Tue 24 Dec 13

voledog says...

Keith, you are sadly very detached from reality. This ain't the 1950s. Times have changed and social mobility is pretty much a thing of the past. Yes, some of the Baby-boomer generation reaped the benefits of post war Britain and some were lucky enough to progress well beyond their class. But as he pointed out himself only a few weeks ago the likes of John Major wouldn't make it to the top of the Tory Party today. No social mobility means your kind stay at the bottom and the privileged always end up running politics and the media.
Responsible governments govern for the population as a whole, not for the elite. A government that cuts taxes for the rich and penalises the poor is a despicable government.
Your comments about governments emptying the coffers are laughable and show you have little understanding of basic economics. Austerity has never ever worked. Keynes has been proved right time and time again, yet idiotic posh Tory boys deny it because it doesn't fit in with their wannabe Thatcherite doctrines. Growth was increasing before this incompetent government took over but Osborne's dangerous economic experiment managed to put a stop to that, destroying tax revenues so he has had to borrow even more money.
Yes, Labour had a public deficit, that deficit was exactly the same size as the one John Major's government left them with. Something that the Tories are somewhat quiet about. The borrowing on top of that was the money that had to be raised to bail out the banks. It wasn't money spent on the public at large. Anyone who thinks the best way to pay back a debt caused by the rich is to penalise the poor has a pretty shoddy set of morals in my book.
Keith, you are sadly very detached from reality. This ain't the 1950s. Times have changed and social mobility is pretty much a thing of the past. Yes, some of the Baby-boomer generation reaped the benefits of post war Britain and some were lucky enough to progress well beyond their class. But as he pointed out himself only a few weeks ago the likes of John Major wouldn't make it to the top of the Tory Party today. No social mobility means your kind stay at the bottom and the privileged always end up running politics and the media. Responsible governments govern for the population as a whole, not for the elite. A government that cuts taxes for the rich and penalises the poor is a despicable government. Your comments about governments emptying the coffers are laughable and show you have little understanding of basic economics. Austerity has never ever worked. Keynes has been proved right time and time again, yet idiotic posh Tory boys deny it because it doesn't fit in with their wannabe Thatcherite doctrines. Growth was increasing before this incompetent government took over but Osborne's dangerous economic experiment managed to put a stop to that, destroying tax revenues so he has had to borrow even more money. Yes, Labour had a public deficit, that deficit was exactly the same size as the one John Major's government left them with. Something that the Tories are somewhat quiet about. The borrowing on top of that was the money that had to be raised to bail out the banks. It wasn't money spent on the public at large. Anyone who thinks the best way to pay back a debt caused by the rich is to penalise the poor has a pretty shoddy set of morals in my book. voledog

1:01am Wed 25 Dec 13

Jabbadad says...

Voledog the moral;s they display are simply Tory values.
And with this latest brainstorming Idea of Older people working longer before they can claim pensions, means that they will stay in jobs that they would have naturally retired from and freed up the jobs Market / Chain which then employs our young people. This is a natural process that has gone on for generations, but in their haste to punish the Older people they again have got it WRONG.
And whist talking Jobs it is estimated that upwards to one million new jobs including our young people that Cameron is claiming succecss for are in fact ZERO HOUR JOBS. And this is also a Tory Plan to drive down wages , well except their own of course.
Many people are trying to survive on less than 20 hours a week which is all the work they can get and at minimum wages and less. Many are travelling into work at their own expense, to be told it's quiet today go home.
And KeithB I don't need Brandy, I find it very easy to write about the terrible things that are happening to our elderly and most vulnerable, and you cannot blame anyone else but This government.
I hope that all those who attended church today in the hope that your sins will be cleansed will actually do something about the Tory injustice.
Voledog the moral;s they display are simply Tory values. And with this latest brainstorming Idea of Older people working longer before they can claim pensions, means that they will stay in jobs that they would have naturally retired from and freed up the jobs Market / Chain which then employs our young people. This is a natural process that has gone on for generations, but in their haste to punish the Older people they again have got it WRONG. And whist talking Jobs it is estimated that upwards to one million new jobs including our young people that Cameron is claiming succecss for are in fact ZERO HOUR JOBS. And this is also a Tory Plan to drive down wages , well except their own of course. Many people are trying to survive on less than 20 hours a week which is all the work they can get and at minimum wages and less. Many are travelling into work at their own expense, to be told it's quiet today go home. And KeithB I don't need Brandy, I find it very easy to write about the terrible things that are happening to our elderly and most vulnerable, and you cannot blame anyone else but This government. I hope that all those who attended church today in the hope that your sins will be cleansed will actually do something about the Tory injustice. Jabbadad

10:16am Thu 26 Dec 13

Keith B says...

Voledog - your very prejudiced comments seem to assume that because I went to public school that I am automatically a Tory. As I said earlier in this column I came out of public school and joined the Young Socialists. That put me well left of the Labour mainstream - but it was my public school education that gave me the confidence to enter politics and in the end stand for Parliament - not incidentally for the Conservatives. I fought Thatcher tooth and nail far more that you'd ever have done. So don't make assumptions.

I live in reality of working every day, manufacturing and selling, not pushing a pen though I also have to do the accounts and administration, earning a crust, creating jobs, supporting the sick, vulnerable and less fortunate, still working with politicians though not in any Party on a whole range of issues and arguing with people like yourself who live in a world of envy for anybody who has grafted and worked hard to gain some of the good things in life .... because I can, because I've got a brain and basically because I'm able to sell (which really is the key and something many simply can not do). I do the two things that create wealth that can keep all the do-gooding projects going - I make things and sell them.

Jabbadad - you and I often disagree in these columns and now I join you as officially old as it's today I turn 60. BUT 60 isn't old - that's the point. Neither is 70 .... and I'll work on through that age because I will be able to until and unless my knees give out, I have a stroke or a heart attack, cancer strikes or I've died in the meantime.

My politics are GREY. Grey because I see grey areas in politics. Nobody has all the answers and nobody is all wrong. The Tory's have some really good people who really do care about others .... they just simply see the way to achieve helping others in a different way to Labour and Liberals who also have some really good people. The fact is that all sides also have total prats in the ranks ... a bit like life in general whether you live in Dines Green or Britannia Square.

The other way my politics are GREY is that I am aware that as I get older my priorities are turning towards the GREY agenda - that of age. I believe that the older person is fitter for longer in their life and that over 50's ARE employable and have huge amount to contribute to society. But try getting selected as a Parliamentary candidate if you are over 60 ... or becoming a TV presenter .... or even applying for a job that is a new career direction. They simply won't consider you. The Grey agenda should be that the older person is a valued member of society, who can contribute hugely and should be respected and not put down. Ming Campbell is a prime example. A man who is regarded as too old for political advancement yet still has a sharp mind, energy and above all huge life experience from being an Olympian, to businessman to first rate politician. Yet he is retiring at the next election .... too old in our youth worshipping society.

Grey is is new young - Old is when you reach 100.

Age is not a disability in itself - it's when life really starts.
Voledog - your very prejudiced comments seem to assume that because I went to public school that I am automatically a Tory. As I said earlier in this column I came out of public school and joined the Young Socialists. That put me well left of the Labour mainstream - but it was my public school education that gave me the confidence to enter politics and in the end stand for Parliament - not incidentally for the Conservatives. I fought Thatcher tooth and nail far more that you'd ever have done. So don't make assumptions. I live in reality of working every day, manufacturing and selling, not pushing a pen though I also have to do the accounts and administration, earning a crust, creating jobs, supporting the sick, vulnerable and less fortunate, still working with politicians though not in any Party on a whole range of issues and arguing with people like yourself who live in a world of envy for anybody who has grafted and worked hard to gain some of the good things in life .... because I can, because I've got a brain and basically because I'm able to sell (which really is the key and something many simply can not do). I do the two things that create wealth that can keep all the do-gooding projects going - I make things and sell them. Jabbadad - you and I often disagree in these columns and now I join you as officially old as it's today I turn 60. BUT 60 isn't old - that's the point. Neither is 70 .... and I'll work on through that age because I will be able to until and unless my knees give out, I have a stroke or a heart attack, cancer strikes or I've died in the meantime. My politics are GREY. Grey because I see grey areas in politics. Nobody has all the answers and nobody is all wrong. The Tory's have some really good people who really do care about others .... they just simply see the way to achieve helping others in a different way to Labour and Liberals who also have some really good people. The fact is that all sides also have total prats in the ranks ... a bit like life in general whether you live in Dines Green or Britannia Square. The other way my politics are GREY is that I am aware that as I get older my priorities are turning towards the GREY agenda - that of age. I believe that the older person is fitter for longer in their life and that over 50's ARE employable and have huge amount to contribute to society. But try getting selected as a Parliamentary candidate if you are over 60 ... or becoming a TV presenter .... or even applying for a job that is a new career direction. They simply won't consider you. The Grey agenda should be that the older person is a valued member of society, who can contribute hugely and should be respected and not put down. Ming Campbell is a prime example. A man who is regarded as too old for political advancement yet still has a sharp mind, energy and above all huge life experience from being an Olympian, to businessman to first rate politician. Yet he is retiring at the next election .... too old in our youth worshipping society. Grey is is new young - Old is when you reach 100. Age is not a disability in itself - it's when life really starts. Keith B

1:48pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Jabbadad says...

Keith B I see so much of my own passage through life in your brief resume.
I actually get great comfort from fighting from the middle of any Political Party alliances, and as you have gathered have little if any respect for todays politicians (well sheep really) My dark days were when I attended local City & County Council meetings and could have forecast the outcome of most if not all voting patterns based upon the parties, as said before just like puppets on strings and in complete unison, even though some of the topics on the Agendas were quite diverse, they (both parties) managed to find everyone of their political persuasion in favour. Democracy at it's worse.
As to the age thing I can pass you by quite some years, which perhaps makes me no better or worth less than any other. I also see myself still attending the University of life, do not consider myself always in the right and have been known to apologise in these columns.
I don't concern myself with religious dogmas, but I worry deeply about the wrongs that innocent people (particularly children) all over the world are dying from the actions of horrible adults / leaders. I hope that all who feel the strength of prayer said a few if not many words for the atrocities in this sad world.
Happy New Year toYou All.
Keith B I see so much of my own passage through life in your brief resume. I actually get great comfort from fighting from the middle of any Political Party alliances, and as you have gathered have little if any respect for todays politicians (well sheep really) My dark days were when I attended local City & County Council meetings and could have forecast the outcome of most if not all voting patterns based upon the parties, as said before just like puppets on strings and in complete unison, even though some of the topics on the Agendas were quite diverse, they (both parties) managed to find everyone of their political persuasion in favour. Democracy at it's worse. As to the age thing I can pass you by quite some years, which perhaps makes me no better or worth less than any other. I also see myself still attending the University of life, do not consider myself always in the right and have been known to apologise in these columns. I don't concern myself with religious dogmas, but I worry deeply about the wrongs that innocent people (particularly children) all over the world are dying from the actions of horrible adults / leaders. I hope that all who feel the strength of prayer said a few if not many words for the atrocities in this sad world. Happy New Year toYou All. Jabbadad

9:38pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Keith B says...

Good Man

If you watched Council meetings - particularly planning - have you ever noticed a strange cross party voting pattern that goes against logical alliances.

It a masonic vote and is much more sinister than any Party whipped vote because nobody knows it is happening.

The Grey agenda fights that lot too - from politicians to police to judges.

And by the way - when I sat in those Council Chambers nobody ever told me how to vote - nobody dared because they knew that if they did I'd ignore them anyway. And you're right - that simply doesn't happen any more.

Except occasionally a senior officer would nudge me - basically warning me that if I took a certain direction I might look stupid six months down the line. That was kind help and showed that the old style Council Officer had an ethos of community service that I'm afraid is being lost as we decimate the career structure of working in local government which once was a career for life but now is dominated by temps working from agencies. But that's another subject ....
Good Man If you watched Council meetings - particularly planning - have you ever noticed a strange cross party voting pattern that goes against logical alliances. It a masonic vote and is much more sinister than any Party whipped vote because nobody knows it is happening. The Grey agenda fights that lot too - from politicians to police to judges. And by the way - when I sat in those Council Chambers nobody ever told me how to vote - nobody dared because they knew that if they did I'd ignore them anyway. And you're right - that simply doesn't happen any more. Except occasionally a senior officer would nudge me - basically warning me that if I took a certain direction I might look stupid six months down the line. That was kind help and showed that the old style Council Officer had an ethos of community service that I'm afraid is being lost as we decimate the career structure of working in local government which once was a career for life but now is dominated by temps working from agencies. But that's another subject .... Keith B

12:29pm Fri 27 Dec 13

canuck7 says...

CarlWPF wrote:
Canuck - what a lazy commentator you are. You seem able to make your way onto the Worcester News website to libel Robin Walker but do not possess any initiative or research skills. In approximately 30 seconds, I Googled the words "children" " hospice" and "Westminster" and before my eyes, several 'on the record' websites appeared, including Hansard which contain the transcript of the debate that Robin Walker attended. You were either too lazy to investigate or simply have an agenda. Not only does the article inform readers as to the reason that Robin Walker could not be in two places at once but the internet is an easy tool that people can use to research the authenticity of the content of the piece.

I guess there are too sides to the internet. It can be used constructively as a great source of information through those with the motivation to learn can do so. But it also has a negative side....It is an nice easy place for trolls to inhabit and denigrate others without having to get off their backsides.

Robin Walker is a first rate MP. He has no need to apologise for prioritising terminally ill children over families on the breadline and does not deserve to be on the receiving end of cheap politically motivated jibes. Any "neutral" reading this article and this thread would soon be able to identify the people who have integrity (Robin Walker amongst them) and those who are lacking in that department.
Oh no , wrong. i am not lazy. agenda?. one might say so. my intention is too expose that he does't care for the poor- WORCESTERS poor- his constitutents!. he is a tory and as i recall they are all about the money. i think it revalent to mention when i contacted Mr Walker about a certain matter regarding an autistic man being bullied for money at the old library and police non action regarding this matter despite the fact i was and another lady wh owas abused and threatened by the local chav thugs because she stood up to them, Mr Walker was just not interested in even investigating this matter or haring the full facts... now the previous labour MP, Mike Foster, he was very helpful with several matters. a real "peoples person". Libel?...let him sue me!
[quote][p][bold]CarlWPF[/bold] wrote: Canuck - what a lazy commentator you are. You seem able to make your way onto the Worcester News website to libel Robin Walker but do not possess any initiative or research skills. In approximately 30 seconds, I Googled the words "children" " hospice" and "Westminster" and before my eyes, several 'on the record' websites appeared, including Hansard which contain the transcript of the debate that Robin Walker attended. You were either too lazy to investigate or simply have an agenda. Not only does the article inform readers as to the reason that Robin Walker could not be in two places at once but the internet is an easy tool that people can use to research the authenticity of the content of the piece. I guess there are too sides to the internet. It can be used constructively as a great source of information through those with the motivation to learn can do so. But it also has a negative side....It is an nice easy place for trolls to inhabit and denigrate others without having to get off their backsides. Robin Walker is a first rate MP. He has no need to apologise for prioritising terminally ill children over families on the breadline and does not deserve to be on the receiving end of cheap politically motivated jibes. Any "neutral" reading this article and this thread would soon be able to identify the people who have integrity (Robin Walker amongst them) and those who are lacking in that department.[/p][/quote]Oh no , wrong. i am not lazy. agenda?. one might say so. my intention is too expose that he does't care for the poor- WORCESTERS poor- his constitutents!. he is a tory and as i recall they are all about the money. i think it revalent to mention when i contacted Mr Walker about a certain matter regarding an autistic man being bullied for money at the old library and police non action regarding this matter despite the fact i was and another lady wh owas abused and threatened by the local chav thugs because she stood up to them, Mr Walker was just not interested in even investigating this matter or haring the full facts... now the previous labour MP, Mike Foster, he was very helpful with several matters. a real "peoples person". Libel?...let him sue me! canuck7

12:49pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Jabbadad says...

I do hope that others do google the Debate that Walker is supposed to have attended. (I failed)
Then perhaps we might not have to rely on what may be a Walker supporters posting. And then some can apologise.
I do hope that others do google the Debate that Walker is supposed to have attended. (I failed) Then perhaps we might not have to rely on what may be a Walker supporters posting. And then some can apologise. Jabbadad

6:05pm Fri 27 Dec 13

worcester man67 says...

What's is Joy Squires and her cronies solution for the 4,000 Worcester citizens on the breadline and struggling to make ends meet. By proposing increasing the Council Tax and taking more money from these hard working families . Increasing the council tax removes the bread off the table and reduces the amount of cash to meet the other bills that need to be paid. Shame on Joy Squires .
What's is Joy Squires and her cronies solution for the 4,000 Worcester citizens on the breadline and struggling to make ends meet. By proposing increasing the Council Tax and taking more money from these hard working families . Increasing the council tax removes the bread off the table and reduces the amount of cash to meet the other bills that need to be paid. Shame on Joy Squires . worcester man67
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