Thieves targeting 'richer pickings' in Worcester suburb, meeting told

Worcester News: Thieves target vehicles in Warndon Villages for 'richer pickings', said the officer Thieves target vehicles in Warndon Villages for 'richer pickings', said the officer

PEOPLE living in a Worcester suburb have been warned to be on their guard against car crime “because they have more items worth stealing”.

The warning was delivered to those living in Warndon Villages by PC Wayne Hurley, Safer Neighbourhood Team officer at Warndon.

He was speaking during a presentation to Warndon Parish Council on Monday night where it was revealed car crime in Warndon Villages is an issue.

“There is always going to be a risk of that in Warndon Villages because you have got more stuff worth taking,” said PC Hurley.

“We had three car thefts in the villages last month.”

PC Hurley said there were 12 instances of anti-social behaviour in the Warndon and Warndon Villages areas during December, with one burglary.

He is also aware, he said, of a speed issue in the villages, particularly on Woodgreen Drive and Plantation Drive.

On the same subject, councillors heard from the area’s county councillor, Andy Roberts, who has been leading calls for a 20mph zone on non-feeder roads in the villages.

He said a recent presentation to Worcestershire County Council on the idea was “well received”.

“It was appreciated that our area could provide an excellent pilot for the county,” he said.

Meanwhile, a mobile camera recorded drivers travelling above the 30mph limit in Warndon Villages received 23,306 hits during December when it was stationed on Dugdale Drive.

The device doesn’t record exact speeds, driver or car details and can’t be used for prosecutions.

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Almost 28,000 motorists were recorded by the VAS (Vehicle Activated Signing) device exceeding 30mph along Plantation Drive in November while almost 40,000 ‘hits’ were recorded on the same road in March 2013.

 

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12:56pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Vox populi says...

Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that." Vox populi
  • Score: 18

1:01pm Thu 9 Jan 14

lilboo says...

Nice and easy to hop on to the M5 after a hard day's theiving too - perfect for them.
Nice and easy to hop on to the M5 after a hard day's theiving too - perfect for them. lilboo
  • Score: 11

1:03pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Browner42 says...

hmm, so Vox populi, if you live on Old Warndon you are a thief? Could the culprits not have travelled from, let's say for sake of argument, Claines or Brittania Square?!
hmm, so Vox populi, if you live on Old Warndon you are a thief? Could the culprits not have travelled from, let's say for sake of argument, Claines or Brittania Square?! Browner42
  • Score: -12

1:08pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Vox populi says...

Browner42 wrote:
hmm, so Vox populi, if you live on Old Warndon you are a thief? Could the culprits not have travelled from, let's say for sake of argument, Claines or Brittania Square?!
I made no generalization, I like and have many friends in Old Warndon. I think you might be a little sensitive.

As I stated above when I was living in the area a large proportion of the crime myself and my neighbours encountered was traced back to and caused by residents of Old Warndon - A sad FACT I am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Browner42[/bold] wrote: hmm, so Vox populi, if you live on Old Warndon you are a thief? Could the culprits not have travelled from, let's say for sake of argument, Claines or Brittania Square?![/p][/quote]I made no generalization, I like and have many friends in Old Warndon. I think you might be a little sensitive. As I stated above when I was living in the area a large proportion of the crime myself and my neighbours encountered was traced back to and caused by residents of Old Warndon - A sad FACT I am afraid. Vox populi
  • Score: 10

3:56pm Thu 9 Jan 14

i-cycle says...

Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
[quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist. i-cycle
  • Score: -7

4:51pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Bushi says...

Can I give another warning to you. I live on Warndon Villages, last month I was unloading a van on my drive in broad day light. My house is at the end of a cul de sac and in the minute I was taking stuff into my house someone pulled up in a white transit and stole a tool box out of the van. Thieves don't always use dark nights and alleyways, neighbours saw him but thought that no one would be so audacious to take something in broad day light with people in the street. Lock up everything no matter how long you have your back turned. I have learnt a very expensive lesson
Can I give another warning to you. I live on Warndon Villages, last month I was unloading a van on my drive in broad day light. My house is at the end of a cul de sac and in the minute I was taking stuff into my house someone pulled up in a white transit and stole a tool box out of the van. Thieves don't always use dark nights and alleyways, neighbours saw him but thought that no one would be so audacious to take something in broad day light with people in the street. Lock up everything no matter how long you have your back turned. I have learnt a very expensive lesson Bushi
  • Score: 9

8:10pm Thu 9 Jan 14

copierman says...

Police stating the obvious again. Why not give low life a road map of the area. White vans cruise the area regulary looking for houses with building work going on so they can steal trades men's equipment and materials even taking stuff out of skips.
Police stating the obvious again. Why not give low life a road map of the area. White vans cruise the area regulary looking for houses with building work going on so they can steal trades men's equipment and materials even taking stuff out of skips. copierman
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Thu 9 Jan 14

spin bowler says...

i-cycle wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all.

Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve
r-used cycle track.

Pick on the easy target motorist....
[quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.[/p][/quote]Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all. Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve r-used cycle track. Pick on the easy target motorist.... spin bowler
  • Score: 7

8:50pm Thu 9 Jan 14

3thinker says...

spin bowler wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all.

Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve

r-used cycle track.

Pick on the easy target motorist....
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient.

By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.
[quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.[/p][/quote]Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all. Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve r-used cycle track. Pick on the easy target motorist....[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient. By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category. 3thinker
  • Score: -3

10:03pm Thu 9 Jan 14

Small Town says...

When was the last armed house invasion, rape, or car jacking, christ the people in their 90's detached houses in cosy leafy cul-de-sacs need to take a breath of the real world. Try living in the suburbs of a fully fledged city, Edgbaston, Disbury or Camden anyone - all so so much more affluent than Warnden Villages, all entirely more dangerous.

So, relax, kick back, and enjoy your peaceful and safe Worcestershire lives.
When was the last armed house invasion, rape, or car jacking, christ the people in their 90's detached houses in cosy leafy cul-de-sacs need to take a breath of the real world. Try living in the suburbs of a fully fledged city, Edgbaston, Disbury or Camden anyone - all so so much more affluent than Warnden Villages, all entirely more dangerous. So, relax, kick back, and enjoy your peaceful and safe Worcestershire lives. Small Town
  • Score: 4

7:50am Fri 10 Jan 14

spin bowler says...

3thinker wrote:
spin bowler wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all.

Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve


r-used cycle track.

Pick on the easy target motorist....
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient.

By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge.
[quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.[/p][/quote]Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all. Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve r-used cycle track. Pick on the easy target motorist....[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient. By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge. spin bowler
  • Score: 7

12:19pm Fri 10 Jan 14

iamthebinman says...

spin bowler wrote:
3thinker wrote:
spin bowler wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all.

Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve



r-used cycle track.

Pick on the easy target motorist....
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient.

By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge.
I would be more than happy to pay a small cycle path tax. I travel from St Johns to Malvern every day and the path is useless to ride on and the road to dangerous. So I drive.

Decent paths are needed if we realistically want to encourage people from small connecting towns and villages to cycle to work on a regular basis but they need to be paid for by someone and the user should at least contribute to the building of them.
[quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.[/p][/quote]Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all. Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve r-used cycle track. Pick on the easy target motorist....[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient. By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge.[/p][/quote]I would be more than happy to pay a small cycle path tax. I travel from St Johns to Malvern every day and the path is useless to ride on and the road to dangerous. So I drive. Decent paths are needed if we realistically want to encourage people from small connecting towns and villages to cycle to work on a regular basis but they need to be paid for by someone and the user should at least contribute to the building of them. iamthebinman
  • Score: 0

11:22pm Sat 11 Jan 14

3thinker says...

spin bowler wrote:
3thinker wrote:
spin bowler wrote:
i-cycle wrote:
Vox populi wrote:
Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern.

As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility.

Basic message is here:

"Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."
What a load of tosh.
All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area.
The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved.
Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law.
As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.
Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all.

Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve



r-used cycle track.

Pick on the easy target motorist....
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient.

By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.
You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters.

If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge.
Highways, that's roads, cycle paths and pavements, are paid from general taxation. There is no such thing as Road Tax. You probably mean Vehicle Excise Duty. This is a tax based on how polluting your vehicle is. A cyclist would therefore not pay VED. They do however pay general taxes for the Highways just the same as anyone else. The vast majority are also car owners.
[quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3thinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spin bowler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i-cycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vox populi[/bold] wrote: Warndon Villages is handily located around the corner from Old Warndon and linked by a series of useful dark alleyways... makes theft very easy with great escape routes especially in the darker months. Hardly amazing police work, with a little local knowledge and a look at www.police.co.uk's crime maps you can see the pattern. As for speeding there is a massive difference between the estate roads and the main roads such as Woodgreen Drive both in terms of design and visibility. Basic message is here: "Law abiding citizens lock up your stuff, its your fault for having nice things not the thieves, BUT if you speed which is entirely unacceptable when compared to theft we will do something about that."[/p][/quote]What a load of tosh. All the police are doing is to give good advice about looking after your valuables and I assume because there has been an increased incidence of theft in a specific area. The police will also investigate and try to arrest anyone involved. Speeding is also a crime and in effect another form of anti-social behaviour but I'm not aware the police locally are doing much to penalise those who break the law. As a cyclist its not nice to have your bike stolen, but I'd much rather that than be knocked off my bike by an inconsiderate speeding motorist.[/p][/quote]Cyclist can be as anti social as speeding motorists, trouble is they don't get prosecuted at all. Anyway, you should be on the ultra-expensive-neve r-used cycle track. Pick on the easy target motorist....[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. I'd prefer using cycleways, but on lots of the City's cycleways its actually safer on the roads and certainly more convenient. By the way cyclists do get prosecuted. Even the most law abiding of us also get deliberately buzzed and abused by inconsiderate motorists. From your last comment I assume you fall into that category.[/p][/quote]You mean the overgrown cycle tracks with uneven surfaces, broken glass, thorns and metal barriers every couple of hundred meters. If you paid paid "cycle path tax" as a motorist does with road tax then you'd have an arguement. Or just get a mountain bike and enjoy the challenge.[/p][/quote]Highways, that's roads, cycle paths and pavements, are paid from general taxation. There is no such thing as Road Tax. You probably mean Vehicle Excise Duty. This is a tax based on how polluting your vehicle is. A cyclist would therefore not pay VED. They do however pay general taxes for the Highways just the same as anyone else. The vast majority are also car owners. 3thinker
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8:04am Wed 15 Jan 14

J. Allan says...

PERSONALLY SPEAKING I THINK MANY RESIDENTS OF WARNDON VILLAGE ARE PENNILESS! I KNOW MANY PEOPLE OVER THERE
THAT ARE AFRAID TO HAVE ANY HEATING ON - EAT CHEAP RUBBISH FOOD AND ALL TO KEEP UP APPEARANCES, MANY BUYING PROPERTY THEY CAN NOT AFFORD DUE TO OVER STRETCHING THEMSELVES.
I LIVE NEAR OLD WARNDON AND LUCKY AM COMFORTABLE AND
WITHOUT DEBT - HOW MANY IN POSH WARNDON VILLAGES CAN SAY THAT! THEY MAY LOOK WELL OFF ON THE OUTSIDE BUT ARE LIVING ON CREDIT TO SURVIVE!
PERSONALLY SPEAKING I THINK MANY RESIDENTS OF WARNDON VILLAGE ARE PENNILESS! I KNOW MANY PEOPLE OVER THERE THAT ARE AFRAID TO HAVE ANY HEATING ON - EAT CHEAP RUBBISH FOOD AND ALL TO KEEP UP APPEARANCES, MANY BUYING PROPERTY THEY CAN NOT AFFORD DUE TO OVER STRETCHING THEMSELVES. I LIVE NEAR OLD WARNDON AND LUCKY AM COMFORTABLE AND WITHOUT DEBT - HOW MANY IN POSH WARNDON VILLAGES CAN SAY THAT! THEY MAY LOOK WELL OFF ON THE OUTSIDE BUT ARE LIVING ON CREDIT TO SURVIVE! J. Allan
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