Evesham's Abbey Bridge shut until last day of March

Worcester News: Evesham's Abbey Bridge Evesham's Abbey Bridge

EVESHAM'S Abbey Bridge will remain closed until the end of March, it has emerged.

In the last few minutes Worcestershire County Council has confirmed the repair work will carry on until an estimated completion date of Monday, March 31.

The news is a fresh blow for traders, residents and visitors to the market town, and follows previous delays which saw the original re-opening target of the start of December scrapped.

The bridge and viaduct was first closed in September last year for vital reconstruction work, and at the time assurances were made that it would re-open in time for the Christmas shopping rush.

But 22 days of work were lost due to bad weather, with wind gusts affecting a crane, and river flows being too strong for the river boats to work.

There were also technical issues with the arch supports to the bridge deck which compounded the delays.

Contractors Hochtief has now re-sequenced the work left, and says every effort will be made to beat the new target of March 31.

The remaining work includes the completion of the new concrete bridge deck and the adjacent viaduct deck, demolition of the old bridge arches, waterproofing of the complete structure, safety barrier installation, kerbs, re-instatement of service ducts, footpath construction, road surfacing, road markings and the commissioning of traffic signals.

Councillor John Smith, cabinet Member for highways and transporation and a politician in Evesham, said: "I've made it clear previously the delays to the re-opening of the Abbey Bridge and Viaduct are extremely disappointing and fall outside the agreement in place with the contractor.

"Myself, Sir Peter Luff MP, county council Leader Councillor Adrian Hardman and senior officers met with Hochtief's managing director just before Christmas to emphasise the importance of getting the link open as quickly as possible because of the impact it's having on the town.

"The contractor gave its reassurance that it understood the situation and would make every effort to get it re-opened as early as it could.

"This confirmation by Hochtief of the revised timetable of works and re-opening date will offer some clarity on the situation for the residents and traders of Evesham.

"We've impressed upon them the need for the programme to include measures that take into account the potential for adverse weather to ensure no further delays are encountered and assurances have been made this has happened.

"We totally understand the feelings of frustration people have because of the delays to the Abbey Bridge and Viaduct closure.

"The council will continue to do it all it can to support businesses until the link re-opens.

"The half-price bus fare offer to and from the town centre, which was due to finish at the end of 2013, will remain in place and we'll continue to work with Wychavon District Council to fund the parking discounts in its car parks.

"The diversion route will also continue to be manually controlled throughout the closure to aid traffic flows and reduce congestion.

"I've said it many times before but the sentiment remains the same.

"I'd like to thank everyone who is supporting our town and traders. I'm sure this will continue until this project is completed."

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5:18pm Tue 14 Jan 14

asumabstainer says...

If the work is completed by this forecast then the opening of the bridge should be carried out by someone with nothing to do with the County Council or Hochtief or even our sweary Mayor(see last weeks Journal!)
If the work is completed by this forecast then the opening of the bridge should be carried out by someone with nothing to do with the County Council or Hochtief or even our sweary Mayor(see last weeks Journal!) asumabstainer
  • Score: 4

6:30pm Tue 14 Jan 14

DarrenM says...

Is there a reason, (and I'm only guessing this) that there were no penalty clauses in this contract to rebuild the bridge?. I'm sure with a £1000 a day fine for everyday over the completion date, the bridge would have been finished long before Christmas?
Is there a reason, (and I'm only guessing this) that there were no penalty clauses in this contract to rebuild the bridge?. I'm sure with a £1000 a day fine for everyday over the completion date, the bridge would have been finished long before Christmas? DarrenM
  • Score: 3

7:37pm Tue 14 Jan 14

imnemo says...

It is weird how Councillor Smith seems to be at the trough in the progress meetings when he claimed earlier that he was unaware of the delays in the bridges construction. With him at the helm I am sure we can expect yet further delays, for unseen reasons, if he shows the same awareness as he has shown the past.
Ask traders in Abbey Road what support they have received from WCC and you will find it is different from any official communication.
It is weird how Councillor Smith seems to be at the trough in the progress meetings when he claimed earlier that he was unaware of the delays in the bridges construction. With him at the helm I am sure we can expect yet further delays, for unseen reasons, if he shows the same awareness as he has shown the past. Ask traders in Abbey Road what support they have received from WCC and you will find it is different from any official communication. imnemo
  • Score: 5

8:28pm Tue 14 Jan 14

adc1960 says...

what an utter joke.........i urge everyone in Evesham to read this news piece - another bridge project delayed - and guess what, Hochtief were the contractor.......
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-dor
set-20769750
bit of a pattern here? If Councillor Smith had any integrity or honour he would resign.........
what an utter joke.........i urge everyone in Evesham to read this news piece - another bridge project delayed - and guess what, Hochtief were the contractor....... http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-dor set-20769750 bit of a pattern here? If Councillor Smith had any integrity or honour he would resign......... adc1960
  • Score: 5

8:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

adc1960 says...

it would seem somewhat appropriate if it is delayed by 1 day till April 1st - April Fools day - kind of appropriate for our local councillors and highway chiefs...........
it would seem somewhat appropriate if it is delayed by 1 day till April 1st - April Fools day - kind of appropriate for our local councillors and highway chiefs........... adc1960
  • Score: 2

9:20pm Tue 14 Jan 14

WilkoJ says...

This project more than any sums up nicely how incompetent the council's highways department really is. Hochtief may be the contractor, but they're only acting upon the council's instructions while it's clear they have not been project managed properly by the council. In fact, Hochtief have clearly said previously it's the council's fault and the fact the council haven't denied this says it all.

I hope those in charge of the highways dept are reading these comments and have a suitably prepared excuse to try and justify this latest failing. Mr Hobbs (Director of Environmental Services) and Mr Blake (Head of Integrated Transport), you need to take personal responsibility as well as discipline or dismiss the staff who were working on this project. I sincerely hope it's not the usual suspects like Mr Fraser or Mr Fullee otherwise their legacy of failure continues unabated, particularly the latter person as he was the area highways engineer at the time this project and the contract were conceived.

As for councillor John Smith, this latest ****-up has occurred under your watch and you've let the highways staff do nothing to resolve this problem and as such, they get away scott free again. It's about time sir that you done the honourable thing and resigned, while I implore the residents of Evesham to call for his resignation, and perhaps start a petition that is presented to County Hall.
This project more than any sums up nicely how incompetent the council's highways department really is. Hochtief may be the contractor, but they're only acting upon the council's instructions while it's clear they have not been project managed properly by the council. In fact, Hochtief have clearly said previously it's the council's fault and the fact the council haven't denied this says it all. I hope those in charge of the highways dept are reading these comments and have a suitably prepared excuse to try and justify this latest failing. Mr Hobbs (Director of Environmental Services) and Mr Blake (Head of Integrated Transport), you need to take personal responsibility as well as discipline or dismiss the staff who were working on this project. I sincerely hope it's not the usual suspects like Mr Fraser or Mr Fullee otherwise their legacy of failure continues unabated, particularly the latter person as he was the area highways engineer at the time this project and the contract were conceived. As for councillor John Smith, this latest ****-up has occurred under your watch and you've let the highways staff do nothing to resolve this problem and as such, they get away scott free again. It's about time sir that you done the honourable thing and resigned, while I implore the residents of Evesham to call for his resignation, and perhaps start a petition that is presented to County Hall. WilkoJ
  • Score: 1

10:44pm Tue 14 Jan 14

MulsanneChap says...

Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect.

And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels.

When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown.

And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.
Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect. And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels. When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown. And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally. MulsanneChap
  • Score: 8

12:41am Wed 15 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

As this contract is turning out to be a business fiasco and the responsibility of cabinet member John Smith, and in the posibility that the Traders of Evesham will have been severely affected by a SIX MONTH CLOSURE of this Bridge, would it not be right that Coun Smith should perhaps forfeit SIX MONTHS of his Councillors attendance allowances / payments which might be over £26,000+ his local Ward allowances per year, since he is demonstrating an incompetence as the Cabinet Member responsible for this project?.
As this contract is turning out to be a business fiasco and the responsibility of cabinet member John Smith, and in the posibility that the Traders of Evesham will have been severely affected by a SIX MONTH CLOSURE of this Bridge, would it not be right that Coun Smith should perhaps forfeit SIX MONTHS of his Councillors attendance allowances / payments which might be over £26,000+ his local Ward allowances per year, since he is demonstrating an incompetence as the Cabinet Member responsible for this project?. Jabbadad
  • Score: 11

3:43am Wed 15 Jan 14

Smyffie says...

So, the original plan was to close the bridge in September and open at the start of December, so give or take, that is about a three month closure. It is now mid January and they expect the closure to continue until the end of March!! So if the remaining work is to take two and a half months, how the hell can they justify the original quote/estimate of three months?! And WTF have they been doing for the last three and a half? With a seven month closure no wonder the towns businesses are feeling the strain. Somebody surely must be held accountable for this debacle!
So, the original plan was to close the bridge in September and open at the start of December, so give or take, that is about a three month closure. It is now mid January and they expect the closure to continue until the end of March!! So if the remaining work is to take two and a half months, how the hell can they justify the original quote/estimate of three months?! And WTF have they been doing for the last three and a half? With a seven month closure no wonder the towns businesses are feeling the strain. Somebody surely must be held accountable for this debacle! Smyffie
  • Score: 10

8:41am Wed 15 Jan 14

Hwicce says...

MulsanneChap wrote:
Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect.

And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels.

When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown.

And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.
@MulsanneChap - "with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels"

Name them then. I'm sure everyone who has been affected by these poorly managed schemes will be quite happy to place the blame at the door of the (ir)responsible persons.
[quote][p][bold]MulsanneChap[/bold] wrote: Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect. And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels. When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown. And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.[/p][/quote]@MulsanneChap - "with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels" Name them then. I'm sure everyone who has been affected by these poorly managed schemes will be quite happy to place the blame at the door of the (ir)responsible persons. Hwicce
  • Score: -4

8:57am Wed 15 Jan 14

Leaderline says...

Hwicce wrote:
MulsanneChap wrote:
Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect.

And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels.

When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown.

And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.
@MulsanneChap - "with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels"

Name them then. I'm sure everyone who has been affected by these poorly managed schemes will be quite happy to place the blame at the door of the (ir)responsible persons.
Why should they name them? All MulsanneChap has attempted to do is prevent incorrect and malicious comments about a member of staff. If you're so desperate to find someone to pin the blame on, contact the council or turn up at the doors at County Hall and don't leave until you're satisfied.
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MulsanneChap[/bold] wrote: Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect. And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels. When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown. And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.[/p][/quote]@MulsanneChap - "with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels" Name them then. I'm sure everyone who has been affected by these poorly managed schemes will be quite happy to place the blame at the door of the (ir)responsible persons.[/p][/quote]Why should they name them? All MulsanneChap has attempted to do is prevent incorrect and malicious comments about a member of staff. If you're so desperate to find someone to pin the blame on, contact the council or turn up at the doors at County Hall and don't leave until you're satisfied. Leaderline
  • Score: 0

9:15am Wed 15 Jan 14

Leaderline says...

MulsanneChap wrote:
Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect.

And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels.

When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown.

And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.
I know Mr Fullee from Parish Council meetings he has attended, I am a Parish Councillor myself, and I can tell you from first hand experience that he is an excellent member of staff. I have always found him, and indeed his colleagues, to be helpful and they try their best under extremely demanding conditions. All these negative and almost libellous comments about him are totally out of order.

When Mr Fullee attended our meetings he received a lot of flack and criticism from the public and some Parish Councillors, and although these comments were directed at the service, he was the council's representative so many of these criticism appeared personal. The main reason behind the flack he received was because people didn't get what they demanded while many thought they knew best and that the highways department were wrong.

What so many people don't realise is that Mr Fullee had a whole district area to manage and not just our patch, so he was being pulled from pillar to post by other residents and Parish Councils, while he and his colleagues had to work within a framework, legislation, policy and financial considerations, so it was not always possible to do what so many people demand - if they did, the council would not be delivering services fairly or appropriately. The highways department has a whole county to manage, so there are processes in place to deal with issues on a priority and needs basis to ensure value for money and transparency, but because of these processes, it's then the likes of Mr Fullee received criticisms. From my experience, it all boils down to the fact that people didn't get what they want so they felt the need to continually abuse certain council staff like Mr Fullee and try and ruin their reputation, and I suspect this is what is happening on the Worcester News website as it's the same old characters who are posting malicious comments about Mr Fullee, and indeed his colleagues.

I don't know how Mr Fullee and his colleagues have remained calm and not reacted to all these negative comments, even at Parish Council meetings, but this shows what sort of people work in the highways department, people with integrity and resilience. Mr Fullee has moved on to bigger and better things within the highways department and I bet he doesn't miss any of the flack he received during his previous job. We, as a Parish Council, miss him.
[quote][p][bold]MulsanneChap[/bold] wrote: Please can those who continually post malicious and incorrect comments about Mr Fullee stop, now! If you need to make comments about individual council officers, especially those not named in a news story, make sure you get your facts right and do some research first before you feel the need to express your views. I know Mr Fullee and he is a highways officer who works hard, is full of integrity and undertakes his duties with due diligence, and treats his colleagues and members of the public with respect. And to those blaming him for Abbey Bridge and the Whittngton roundabout, yes he was what was essentially the area highways manager for the Wychavon area but he was not responsible for these schemes, he only had a monitoring brief and an overview of what was happening, with capital schemes of this scale instead handled and delivered through different channels. When such misleading and malicious comments are posted, do these bloggers have any idea what affect it may have on those individuals? Because so many people believe what they read, these people's reputations are tarnished, with all their previous hard and good work undone in an instant and it's almost irrecoverable because people believe the false information they read. These staff who see their names mentioned become demoralised, and while many are thick skinned and can rise above the abuse, they are still affected mentally and physically and they do have a heart and can take such hatred towards them personally. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Fullee, or other officers who are mentioned in a similar vein, went off with stress or a nervous breakdown. And I suspect that those who continually tarnish the same highway officers time and time again probably do so because they didn't get what they wanted, or think they know it all and merely disagree with what these officers say and do, and therefore feel the need to try and destroy them personally and professionally.[/p][/quote]I know Mr Fullee from Parish Council meetings he has attended, I am a Parish Councillor myself, and I can tell you from first hand experience that he is an excellent member of staff. I have always found him, and indeed his colleagues, to be helpful and they try their best under extremely demanding conditions. All these negative and almost libellous comments about him are totally out of order. When Mr Fullee attended our meetings he received a lot of flack and criticism from the public and some Parish Councillors, and although these comments were directed at the service, he was the council's representative so many of these criticism appeared personal. The main reason behind the flack he received was because people didn't get what they demanded while many thought they knew best and that the highways department were wrong. What so many people don't realise is that Mr Fullee had a whole district area to manage and not just our patch, so he was being pulled from pillar to post by other residents and Parish Councils, while he and his colleagues had to work within a framework, legislation, policy and financial considerations, so it was not always possible to do what so many people demand - if they did, the council would not be delivering services fairly or appropriately. The highways department has a whole county to manage, so there are processes in place to deal with issues on a priority and needs basis to ensure value for money and transparency, but because of these processes, it's then the likes of Mr Fullee received criticisms. From my experience, it all boils down to the fact that people didn't get what they want so they felt the need to continually abuse certain council staff like Mr Fullee and try and ruin their reputation, and I suspect this is what is happening on the Worcester News website as it's the same old characters who are posting malicious comments about Mr Fullee, and indeed his colleagues. I don't know how Mr Fullee and his colleagues have remained calm and not reacted to all these negative comments, even at Parish Council meetings, but this shows what sort of people work in the highways department, people with integrity and resilience. Mr Fullee has moved on to bigger and better things within the highways department and I bet he doesn't miss any of the flack he received during his previous job. We, as a Parish Council, miss him. Leaderline
  • Score: 2

4:07pm Wed 15 Jan 14

skychip says...

You never hear any comments from Mr. Hobbs or Mr. Blake - they seem to keep a low profile whilst others are taking the flack.
You never hear any comments from Mr. Hobbs or Mr. Blake - they seem to keep a low profile whilst others are taking the flack. skychip
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Wed 15 Jan 14

rod123 says...

Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract?
If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up.
Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract? If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up. rod123
  • Score: 2

7:19pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

I have asked this very question direct to those responsible when roads have been closed for long periods of time particularly around Sansom Street and the Arboretum, and I was told that they don't negotiate these penalties and putting the road surfaces back as they were found (blockwork etc) with the contractors and no other explanation was given.
I have asked this very question direct to those responsible when roads have been closed for long periods of time particularly around Sansom Street and the Arboretum, and I was told that they don't negotiate these penalties and putting the road surfaces back as they were found (blockwork etc) with the contractors and no other explanation was given. Jabbadad
  • Score: 0

9:58pm Wed 15 Jan 14

aLurker says...

rod123 wrote:
Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract?
If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up.
See https://www.whatdoth
eyknow.com/request/a
bbey_bridge_evesham_
and_hochtie There are penalties but our council explicitly refuses to tell us what they are!
[quote][p][bold]rod123[/bold] wrote: Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract? If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up.[/p][/quote]See https://www.whatdoth eyknow.com/request/a bbey_bridge_evesham_ and_hochtie There are penalties but our council explicitly refuses to tell us what they are! aLurker
  • Score: 2

10:03pm Wed 15 Jan 14

rod123 says...

aLurker wrote:
rod123 wrote:
Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract?
If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up.
See https://www.whatdoth

eyknow.com/request/a

bbey_bridge_evesham_

and_hochtie There are penalties but our council explicitly refuses to tell us what they are!
They are our servants, they should be compelled to by law.
[quote][p][bold]aLurker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rod123[/bold] wrote: Why are councillors side-stepping the question of what daily or weekly penalty clause was put in the contract? If no such clause was entered into, who is responsible? I expect those involved are too spineless to put their hands up.[/p][/quote]See https://www.whatdoth eyknow.com/request/a bbey_bridge_evesham_ and_hochtie There are penalties but our council explicitly refuses to tell us what they are![/p][/quote]They are our servants, they should be compelled to by law. rod123
  • Score: 4

3:31am Thu 16 Jan 14

sunnyshammer says...

My husband used to work within the automotive industry. if the production line had to be shut there were such huge penalties for the company responsible that it never/ rarely happened. the weather excuse is absolute rubbish. there was no bad weather until just before they shut down for xmas. I very much doubt that with every perfect condition in place they still wouldn't have finished on time.
Of course they don't want us to know what compensation will be paid because they then don't have to disclose how and to whom it will be allocated.
It is not just businesses that have been affected: those having to use the bypass daily to travel from the north of Evesham to , say, Cheltenham, have a 10 mile round trip diversion. Over 7 months the cost of fuel is enormous. Recently when Leys road in Harvington was shut the residents were paid compensation.
As a town we must DEMAND that the penalty clause is made public. Perhaps Mr luff could get involved and assist in this matter.
My husband used to work within the automotive industry. if the production line had to be shut there were such huge penalties for the company responsible that it never/ rarely happened. the weather excuse is absolute rubbish. there was no bad weather until just before they shut down for xmas. I very much doubt that with every perfect condition in place they still wouldn't have finished on time. Of course they don't want us to know what compensation will be paid because they then don't have to disclose how and to whom it will be allocated. It is not just businesses that have been affected: those having to use the bypass daily to travel from the north of Evesham to , say, Cheltenham, have a 10 mile round trip diversion. Over 7 months the cost of fuel is enormous. Recently when Leys road in Harvington was shut the residents were paid compensation. As a town we must DEMAND that the penalty clause is made public. Perhaps Mr luff could get involved and assist in this matter. sunnyshammer
  • Score: 0

12:01pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

Don't hold your breath over Luffs help. This is a mess being overseen by his beloved Tories. However he might support sending the contract out of this country
Don't hold your breath over Luffs help. This is a mess being overseen by his beloved Tories. However he might support sending the contract out of this country Jabbadad
  • Score: 1

2:30pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Help01 says...

I would like to ask, how come Mr John Smith, who does not have any commercial expertise, experience or business strategy is heading up this project. Surely, this was going to be disastrous from the onset. You have a man with a huge ego who has proved, has no idea how to deal with contractors. It is now evident, the contractors are running rings around him, telling him anything and Mr Smith does not know how to deal with the issues presented to him. Please Mr Smith for the sake of Evesham's last remaining traders, do the honorable thing and resign and get someone with a commercial background take charge and salvage this calamitous situation.
I would like to ask, how come Mr John Smith, who does not have any commercial expertise, experience or business strategy is heading up this project. Surely, this was going to be disastrous from the onset. You have a man with a huge ego who has proved, has no idea how to deal with contractors. It is now evident, the contractors are running rings around him, telling him anything and Mr Smith does not know how to deal with the issues presented to him. Please Mr Smith for the sake of Evesham's last remaining traders, do the honorable thing and resign and get someone with a commercial background take charge and salvage this calamitous situation. Help01
  • Score: 5

11:37pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Margyp says...

Just a thought. . I have noticed that when there is an opportunity to self promote and absorb any praise our local councillor Mr JOHN SMITH has been very quick to be there, with TV and press appearances. Maybe his time would have been better spent actually learning about highways and transport before taking a post where he is completely out of his depth. He has no qualifications or experience in this field at all, how exactly can he expect anyone to take him serious. If he really cares about his town, he should do the honourable thing and step down. Leave this to people who understand highways, he does not. The chaos the bridge closure has caused is surely the last straw.
Just a thought. . I have noticed that when there is an opportunity to self promote and absorb any praise our local councillor Mr JOHN SMITH has been very quick to be there, with TV and press appearances. Maybe his time would have been better spent actually learning about highways and transport before taking a post where he is completely out of his depth. He has no qualifications or experience in this field at all, how exactly can he expect anyone to take him serious. If he really cares about his town, he should do the honourable thing and step down. Leave this to people who understand highways, he does not. The chaos the bridge closure has caused is surely the last straw. Margyp
  • Score: 3

1:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

tommy68 says...

Is it too late to ask for the old bridge back ?
Is it too late to ask for the old bridge back ? tommy68
  • Score: 7

8:32pm Sun 19 Jan 14

old misery says...

When Japan was hit by earthquakes a couple of years ago they had rebuilt some bridges with in TWO weeks obvoiusly not as extensive as the Evesham job but it does show what can be done.. I think the Evesham contract has been a disaster in public relations it was visibly obvious it was never going to open before Christmas and the County Council should have been honest and made this known earlier
When Japan was hit by earthquakes a couple of years ago they had rebuilt some bridges with in TWO weeks obvoiusly not as extensive as the Evesham job but it does show what can be done.. I think the Evesham contract has been a disaster in public relations it was visibly obvious it was never going to open before Christmas and the County Council should have been honest and made this known earlier old misery
  • Score: 2

9:26pm Sun 19 Jan 14

rod123 says...

Still no comment from cowardly councilors, elections will sort you out.
Still no comment from cowardly councilors, elections will sort you out. rod123
  • Score: 0

9:28pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

Well don't forget to remind the voters rod123.
Well don't forget to remind the voters rod123. Jabbadad
  • Score: 1

9:52pm Sun 19 Jan 14

rod123 says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Well don't forget to remind the voters rod123.
I expect they are shaking in their boots at the thought of losing their expenses when they lose their seats.
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Well don't forget to remind the voters rod123.[/p][/quote]I expect they are shaking in their boots at the thought of losing their expenses when they lose their seats. rod123
  • Score: 0

10:35am Mon 20 Jan 14

themooman says...

So if there was 22 days lost - how has that totalled over 90 days being added on ... one thinks the bridge was never due to be opened in December at all ... Headloss
So if there was 22 days lost - how has that totalled over 90 days being added on ... one thinks the bridge was never due to be opened in December at all ... Headloss themooman
  • Score: 0

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