Groups share concern over planned street light cuts

First published in News

TWO groups say research shows Worcestershire County Council's plans to cut street lighting in some side streets will make residents feel less safe.

The Neighbourhood & Home Watch Network (NHWN) and the Suzy Lamplugh Trust say they spoke to almost 16,000 people across the country.

Of those who had seen street lighting switched off or dimmed in their area, 55.8 per cent of the women and 38.8 per cent of men said that their community now feels less safe.

Last October, Worcestershire County Council revealed plans to cut street lighting in some side streets between midnight and 6am, with the cabinet set to consider the proposal in February.

“The main aim behind the Neighbourhood and Home Watch movement is to help people feel safe where they live, and appropriate levels of street lighting contribute to that," said Jim Maddan, chair of NHWN.

"Most people do appreciate the need for cost savings by local authorities but it is important that residents are consulted to find out how they feel about crime, safety and lighting levels in their neighbourhood.

The move, mirrored in counties across the country, has already been criticised by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA), which says it will put people at risk.

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8:08am Thu 30 Jan 14

Bufton Tufton says...

Another improvement would be for the streetlights to switch on about half an hour later in the evening. I am often struck when in quite large cities on the continent how the street lighting turns on much nearer to dusk than is generally the case in the UK
Another improvement would be for the streetlights to switch on about half an hour later in the evening. I am often struck when in quite large cities on the continent how the street lighting turns on much nearer to dusk than is generally the case in the UK Bufton Tufton
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9:46am Thu 30 Jan 14

pudniw_gib says...

ah the dream of seeing the milkyway of an evening....
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lifted from the The British Astronomical Association's
Campaign for Dark Skies.....
.
Light intruding into bedrooms at night can cause problems involving the human immune system and cancer..
Lights have caused highway fatalities by blinding car drivers.
Inefficient lighting wastes over £1 billion per annum in the UK alone
Less than 10% of the UK population can see the beauty of a natural night sky full of stars.
Lighting can help criminals see what they are doing. In Saffron Walden, Essex, the police reported that night-time crime almost halved after the street-lighting was turned off over-night.
I would like less lighting in town, I dont want it coming through the curtains all night....
http://www.britastro
.org/dark-skies/ some interesting stuff here.
ah the dream of seeing the milkyway of an evening.... . lifted from the The British Astronomical Association's Campaign for Dark Skies..... . Light intruding into bedrooms at night can cause problems involving the human immune system and cancer.. Lights have caused highway fatalities by blinding car drivers. Inefficient lighting wastes over £1 billion per annum in the UK alone Less than 10% of the UK population can see the beauty of a natural night sky full of stars. Lighting can help criminals see what they are doing. In Saffron Walden, Essex, the police reported that night-time crime almost halved after the street-lighting was turned off over-night. I would like less lighting in town, I dont want it coming through the curtains all night.... http://www.britastro .org/dark-skies/ some interesting stuff here. pudniw_gib
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10:35am Thu 30 Jan 14

Arthur Blenkinsop says...

I wish they would turn the street lights off around where i live. In the middle of the night, with the curtains drawn at the back of the house, it still looks like broad daylight outside!
There are no street lights anywhere in Hallow, does anyone feel unsafe there?
I wish they would turn the street lights off around where i live. In the middle of the night, with the curtains drawn at the back of the house, it still looks like broad daylight outside! There are no street lights anywhere in Hallow, does anyone feel unsafe there? Arthur Blenkinsop
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10:53am Thu 30 Jan 14

Andy-Apache says...

There is an angle on this that says the average petty criminal would be easier to spot, as if your garden / shed etc is in pitch darkness, he'll need a torch.

Unless he has night vision goggles - in which case, he probably has bigger fish to fry than nicking your lawnmower!
There is an angle on this that says the average petty criminal would be easier to spot, as if your garden / shed etc is in pitch darkness, he'll need a torch. Unless he has night vision goggles - in which case, he probably has bigger fish to fry than nicking your lawnmower! Andy-Apache
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11:19am Thu 30 Jan 14

The Curious Kumquat says...

It's a great idea. The new / upgraded street lights where I live (Claines) are way too bright and they stuck one of the new ones in front of our house so it lights up the two rooms where our kids sleep. Have had to install blackout blinds subsequently despite the council eventually fitting some sort of deflector to the back of the light.

There is no evidence to say that more crime is committed in unlit areas, in fact it's mostly the contrary. Most break-ins happen in broad daylight and often while the house is unoccupied as the owners are at work.

Turn them off! Would also love to see a decent array of stars once again though I guess they're never going to plunge all of Worcester into darkness each night :(
It's a great idea. The new / upgraded street lights where I live (Claines) are way too bright and they stuck one of the new ones in front of our house so it lights up the two rooms where our kids sleep. Have had to install blackout blinds subsequently despite the council eventually fitting some sort of deflector to the back of the light. There is no evidence to say that more crime is committed in unlit areas, in fact it's mostly the contrary. Most break-ins happen in broad daylight and often while the house is unoccupied as the owners are at work. Turn them off! Would also love to see a decent array of stars once again though I guess they're never going to plunge all of Worcester into darkness each night :( The Curious Kumquat
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12:02pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

Well I attended a meeting yesterday where a county official says that currently the trial of switching off 1 in 3 lights was carried out in Droitwich, however they (the County Council ) intend to role this out across the County where 2 in 3 lights will be turned off at Midnight to save app £1million pounds.
So the night burgalars will just have to wait until midnight. People will have to buy torchs to use the generally uneven paths.
And the old chestnut of the lights keep us awake are rubbish since we have several security lights where we live and they do not keep us awake in fact they make us feel more secure / safe and so easier / peacefull to sleep.
As to Motorways to drive along stretches that are lit is much safer than having other drivers who come towards you on full headlights which today are much stronger than the old types of lights. And motorways that are lit are much safer during Misty or Foggy times. If anything they could switch off alternate motorway lights, since the motorway lights left on would still cope safely.
Well I attended a meeting yesterday where a county official says that currently the trial of switching off 1 in 3 lights was carried out in Droitwich, however they (the County Council ) intend to role this out across the County where 2 in 3 lights will be turned off at Midnight to save app £1million pounds. So the night burgalars will just have to wait until midnight. People will have to buy torchs to use the generally uneven paths. And the old chestnut of the lights keep us awake are rubbish since we have several security lights where we live and they do not keep us awake in fact they make us feel more secure / safe and so easier / peacefull to sleep. As to Motorways to drive along stretches that are lit is much safer than having other drivers who come towards you on full headlights which today are much stronger than the old types of lights. And motorways that are lit are much safer during Misty or Foggy times. If anything they could switch off alternate motorway lights, since the motorway lights left on would still cope safely. Jabbadad
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3:54pm Thu 30 Jan 14

pudniw_gib says...

If it just came down to health benefits then no street lights would be very helpful.
The body needs total darkness to release certain hormones very important to our health. There is a suspected link between breast cancer and lighting at night, something to do with melatonin production not happening. Also increased risk of miscarriage.
It has been said that even a phone screen left on in the room disrupts the production of this hormone.
If it just came down to health benefits then no street lights would be very helpful. The body needs total darkness to release certain hormones very important to our health. There is a suspected link between breast cancer and lighting at night, something to do with melatonin production not happening. Also increased risk of miscarriage. It has been said that even a phone screen left on in the room disrupts the production of this hormone. pudniw_gib
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4:57pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Jabbadad says...

And so does the Human body need light.
And so does the Human body need light. Jabbadad
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5:04pm Thu 30 Jan 14

pudniw_gib says...

Jabbadad wrote:
And so does the Human body need light.
yes.. it stimulates other functions and hormones.... its just that certain body hormone production needs darkness. Just like sunlight stimulates the production of vit D.
If you live in a light polluted area get some blackout curtains..
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: And so does the Human body need light.[/p][/quote]yes.. it stimulates other functions and hormones.... its just that certain body hormone production needs darkness. Just like sunlight stimulates the production of vit D. If you live in a light polluted area get some blackout curtains.. pudniw_gib
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12:20pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Andy-Apache says...

Human beings have been around for a much much longer time than electric light - therefore for normal health our bodies are probably programmed to require light when awake, and darkness when sleeping. We certainly don't need lights on when sleeping. Our back garden is in total darkness at night (we're not near a road) so I have become attuned to any light outside at night. It would be easy to spot an intruder - unless he had the aformentioned goggles... ;-)
Human beings have been around for a much much longer time than electric light - therefore for normal health our bodies are probably programmed to require light when awake, and darkness when sleeping. We certainly don't need lights on when sleeping. Our back garden is in total darkness at night (we're not near a road) so I have become attuned to any light outside at night. It would be easy to spot an intruder - unless he had the aformentioned goggles... ;-) Andy-Apache
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9:06am Mon 3 Feb 14

Bushi says...

Why not fit the street lights in the back street with motion sensors? Then if some Insomniac is out walking his/her dog in the early hours the lights will come on.

Aren't most crimes committed when people are not in the house? i.e when people are at work. Most thieves are cowards and wouldn't want the risk of someone waking up.
Why not fit the street lights in the back street with motion sensors? Then if some Insomniac is out walking his/her dog in the early hours the lights will come on. Aren't most crimes committed when people are not in the house? i.e when people are at work. Most thieves are cowards and wouldn't want the risk of someone waking up. Bushi
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3:40pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Vox populi says...

Ha ha you cant blame crime on lights or lack of them. Blame it on criminals and lack of policing, imagine that, the actual root cause of it… Surely the very act of driving a motor vehicle safely at night requires you to be able to deal with dark, light and other peoples headlights! If you are dazzelled and subsequently crash then you are not in control of your vehicle, no excuse.

Someone has been watching the old Honda advert Bushi…
Ha ha you cant blame crime on lights or lack of them. Blame it on criminals and lack of policing, imagine that, the actual root cause of it… Surely the very act of driving a motor vehicle safely at night requires you to be able to deal with dark, light and other peoples headlights! If you are dazzelled and subsequently crash then you are not in control of your vehicle, no excuse. Someone has been watching the old Honda advert Bushi… Vox populi
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10:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Jabbadad says...

Rubbish again Vox
Rubbish again Vox Jabbadad
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11:45am Tue 4 Feb 14

Vox populi says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Rubbish again Vox
Jabbadad have you ever been responsible or accountable for your own actions and abilities ever in your life?

Or was there always somebody or something else to blame?
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Rubbish again Vox[/p][/quote]Jabbadad have you ever been responsible or accountable for your own actions and abilities ever in your life? Or was there always somebody or something else to blame? Vox populi
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5:24pm Tue 4 Feb 14

liketoknow says...

let's hope the pavements are in good condition. might cost them more in compensation claims than they save
let's hope the pavements are in good condition. might cost them more in compensation claims than they save liketoknow
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