Live updates on today's flooding in Worcestershire and Herefordshire (including Monday morning disruption information)

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  • RIVER levels are expected to peak in some places today, while in others they continue to rise.
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So that's it for tonight. If Dave Throup is calling it quits so am I!

Thank you so much to everyone who has contributed tweets, comments, Facebook posts and photos today.

It's been a pleasure working with you.

We'll be back bright and early tomorrow to help you through what is bound to be a difficult day.

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Emergency chief on road closures: "We have not taken this decision lightly."

Statement in full: http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/apps/newsarticle.aspx?News=1952&

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People at the flats in Newport Street, Worcester, trying to keep the water out. By Simon Alan Barry Gammon via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Tomorrow's front page, with two more pages of flooding reports and pictures inside.

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From Swanpool walk looking across towards Diglis, one vast waterscape. By Andrew Brown via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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By the Severn View Hotel by Mario Maz (via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews)

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Worcester Bridge by Simon Churchill (via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews)

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Swan on Worcester Racecourse, by David Miller (via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews)

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Dave Throup you are a legend. When this is over you deserve a holiday - the hardest working person in England.

Text to Worcester News from Dan, Worcester (80360 WN News)

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No reports of Holt Fleet bridge being closed.

Anyone know if bridge at Holt Fleet still passable?

Text to Worcester News (80360 WN News)

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Can anyone help please?

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They're worried about the structural issues facing the bridge with the amount of water pushing against it and if they added the weight of vehicles, no one wants the bridge, which is old, to collapse.

Steve Griffiths via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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New road, the bridge, Bridge Street and Deansway are dry. Why is the bridge closed?

Wayne Ballinger via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Rescue in Upton upon Severn by Tracey Blatch via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Text to Worcester News:

Why close Worc bridge by putting road closed signs at non flooded ends but nothing at flooded end so traffic driving through water & over bridge! #defeatstheobjective

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From Worcester City Council

Due to the closure of Worcester Bridge, Dolday, Tybridge Street, New Road and Croft Road, Crowngate buses will therefore be diverted in the city and operate from one of three different locations. These will be:

St. Nicholas Street Bus Stop (opposite McDonalds): Services 31A (arrivals), 31C (departures), 144, 294/295, 303, 758, W1

Cathedral Roundabout Bus Shelter: Services 31A (departures), 31C (arrivals), 32, 39, 44/44C

City Walls Road Temp. Bus Terminus (inside lane adjacent to Cinema): 26/27, 30/31 Special Flood Service, 33/34, 35, 308, 310, 350, 356/357/358, 362, 363, 364, 382, 417, 420, 550/551

Further info about bus disruptions can be found here.

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Does anyone know if Worcester Bridge is still open to pedestrians?

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A substantial number of bus routes are affected tomorrow by the floods.

The full list is available at worcestershire.gov.uk.

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Hanley Castle High School will not be starting until 9.50am tomorrow due to the severe flooding in the county.

The school, in Church End, Hanley Castle, will also be closing at 3pm.

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Its not just flooding thats causing chaos. This ancient oak came down yesterday and block a road in Bevere Green. The ground in so sodden and high winds are putting these large trees in danger.

By Kevin Savage via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Your Monday floods travel survival guide

JW: It looks like it's going to be a chaotic morning in Worcestershire tomorrow.

We'll be live on this site first thing to keep you up to date.

In the meantime, we'll be keeping this blog live until late tonight for your pictures and any more breaking news.

Here are some links you might find useful tomorrow:

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What to expect

AFTER days of driving rain and winds gusting up to 50mph across Worcestershire the county is set to see yet more bad weather.

River levels are at their highest since the floods of 2007 and flood alerts are in place for the River Severn in Worcestershire.
Dave Throup, of the environment Environment Agency Manager for Herefordshire and Worcestershire, told your Worcester News he expected the Severn to peak in Worcester overnight.

Today the levels at the Worcester gauge was 5.36 metres and a peak level of between 5.4 and 5.55 metres was predicted overnight.

The story was a similar one down the river at Diglis where the heights were 4.92 metres and not expected to increase to more than 5.05 metres.

At the Kempsey Yacht Gauge the measurement was 7 metres. with a peak level of between 7.05 and 7.15 metres anticipated to take place this morning (Monday).

But Mr Throup added the area would see further ups and downs as rain in Wales worked through the waterways.
"It will be a very slow peak," he said. "It's very difficult to say when exactly it will occur and then there will be small dips and rises through the next week.

"There is more rain coming down through Wales. It's all building up round Worcester and Upton.

"It think it will remain below the levels of 2007 but certainly will have hit levels that cause significant disruption and flooding to property. I think we would expect to see that continue into next week."

On Saturday the Met Office issued a weather warning on roads across the county  as they predicted further heavy rainfall and the alert was expected to last until shortly before midnight on Tuesday.

But it seems there may be some respite in the weather, albeit briefly, as forecasts show tomorrow to be a largely dry day with wind gusting only up to about 20 mph.

However by Tuesday the rain appears to be back in full force and it is expected to fall throughout the day and then again on Wednesday and Thursday for prolonged periods.

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Roads around Worcester city centre, including the Worcester Bridge, are to remain closed during tomorrow's rush hour.

It's not known yet when the roads will re-open.

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Hwicce says

I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it.

The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge.

The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc.

There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.

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honeystj says

If New Road and Bridge St are open and dry, WHY is the town bridge shut?
Both roads could easily be made into two-direction roads for cars, buses, vans only and at least some traffic could get through.
Tomorrow will be chaos for drivers.

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Pomygranit: I believe you can still walk into the city, along New Road, over the bridge and up Bridge Street.

It was open to pedestrians earlier today.

But advice from all emergency services is to exercise caution and not to enter any flood waters.

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We are expecting a further update from Worcestershire County Council on the length of time the roads around the city are expected to be closed shortly.

There are currently no school closures tomorrow.

Bus diversions currently in place are listed below.

We will continue to update you with information as soon as we have it.

2 / 2A / 2C (Bewdley - Kidderminster) : Due to the closure of Bewdley Bridge due to flooding, these services will operate from Kidderminster to Wribbenhall as normal, then divert via Stourport Rd and Bewdley Bypass to access the Town Centre and turn here. These services will therefore operate with significant delays. (NEW UPDATE)

15 (Kidderminster – Stourport – Bewdley) : This service is operating as normal from Kidderminster as far as the Severn Valley Station in Bewdley, then turning around and diverting via Bewdley Bypass to access the Town Centre. (NEW UPDATE)

41 / 42 / 43 (Upton – Malvern) : Due to flooding on Hanley Road in Upton, these services continue to operate to their Standard Flood Timetable.

125 (Stourbridge - Kidderminster - Bewdley - Highley – Bridgnorth) : Due to the closure of Bewdley Bridge due to flooding, this service will operate from Kidderminster to the Safari Park as normal, then divert via Stourport Road and Bewdley Bypass to access the Town Centre. It will then continue operating its normal route towards Bridgnorth. (NEW UPDATE)

291 (Tenbury – Bewdley – Kidderminster) : Due to the closure of Bewdley Bridge due to flooding, this service will operate from Kidderminster to the Safari Park as normal, then divert via Stourport Road and Bewdley Bypass to access the Town Centre. It will then turn around and continue operating its normal route towards Tenbury. (NEW UPDATE)

292 (Kidderminster – Bewdley – Ludlow) : Due to the closure of Bewdley Bridge due to flooding, this service will operate from Kidderminster to the Safari Park as normal, then divert via Stourport Road and Bewdley Bypass to access the Town Centre. It will then turn around and continue operating its normal route towards Ludlow. (NEW UPDATE)

362 / 364 (Worcester – Kempsey – Upton) : Due to flooding on Hanley Road in Upton, these services continue to operate to their Standard Flood Timetable.

363 (Worcester – Callow End – Upton) : Due to flooding on Hanley Road in Upton, these services continue to operate to their Standard Flood Timetable.

382 (Worcester – Norton – Littleworth – Defford – Eckington – Pershore) : Due to flooding at Eckington Bridge, this service is operating to its Standard Flood Timetable.

550 / 551 (Worcester – Pershore - Evesham) : Due to flooding at Jubilee Bridge in Fladbury, these services are now operating to their Special Flood Timetable. Additionally, due to the closure of Waterside in Evesham due to flooding, Service 550 journeys to Evesham will divert via Cheltenham Rd – Davies Rd – Broadway Rd – Bengeworth, then terminate here. (NEW UPDATE)

581 / 582 (Evesham Town Services) : Due to the closure of Waterside in Evesham due to flooding, these services are diverting from Port Street via Bengeworth – Broadway Rd – Davies Rd – Cheltenham Rd then undertaking a loop of Hampton and Fairfield Estates before returning via the same route. Cooper's Lane will not be served, and the services will operate with significant delays. (NEW UPDATE)

758 (Worcester – Hallow – Great Witley – Tenbury) : Due to flooding on Hylton Road in Worcester, this service is diverting via St. John's and Henwick Road, then resuming normal route towards Hallow, and vice versa.

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JW: We have reports of queueing traffic, but no information that roundabout is shut.

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Pomygranit says

Does anyone know what is happening with buses tomorrow into Worcester from Dines Green & Henwick Park? Is there going to be a shuttle service and walk over the bridge. I know First do not work Sundays but some information would be useful. I know the pictures are interesting but some practical information would be useful.
Can you walk into the city at the moment?

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rackedoff says

WilkoJ says it very well. The County Council should absolutely have had the foresight to be prepared for what was obviously going to happen, and to have had contingency plans for keeping the traffic flowing. But it's not just about posting (inadequate) diversion signs in (obscure) places. It's about recognising that there are other issues around Worcester like the road works on St Peters roundabout, that are exacerbating the problem. Simply tell them to cover their holes in the road, remove their traffic lights and get things moving.

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Worcestershire County Council have released the following statement:

Worcestershire County Council has had to close many city centre roads due to high river levels on the River Severn.

Diversions have been put in place and the city centre will still be open for business but motorists may experience some delays and may have to change their normal routes.

Motorists are being urged not to drive into any floodwater as they cannot know how deep it will be and risk being stranded.
River levels are expected to remain high for the next few days and the diversions will remain in place.

Jon Fraser, head of highways at Worcestershire County Council, said: "River levels are already high and we have more rain forecast.

"We have had to close some roads and put diversions in place and even where roads are passable I would urge drivers to take care and temper their driving according to the conditions."

Dafydd Evans, area manager for the Environment Agency said: "We anticipate that river levels will remain elevated, peaking overnight and we would urge residents to remain vigilant to their flood risk.

"River levels will be higher than those experienced earlier in the year so further properties could be at risk of flooding."

A full list of the road diversions is available at  worcestershire.gov.uk as are the buses that have been disrupted by road closures.

For the latest flood warnings or to sign up to the Floodline Warnings Direct service, or call Floodline on 0845 988 1188 or 0345 988 1188 or visit the Environment Agency website henvironment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/31618.aspx.

If you spot a problem on the roads, please contact the Worcestershire Hub on 0845 607 2005.

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Vikki 'mummy' Sandford posted to‎ Worcester News
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Just in case people still aren't aware Upton-upon-Severn bridge and the road from Ryall to Upton are closed (via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews)

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Water levels in Hylton Road outside the Worcester News offices have receded.

But we have been advised the river levels are set to peak tonight and into the early hours of tomorrow morning.

We are also hoping to be able to update everyone on road closures, possible school closures and bus diversions after 4pm.

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Hang on, Hannah. We'll try to find out for you.

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Don't worry, folks, our escape dinghy is round the back.

Picture by Paul Savage Photography via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Holt Fleet 09/02/2014 by Paul Savage Photography via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Waverley Street this morning, by Sally Metcalfe via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Sasha888 says

Hello!
Does anybody know if Worcester City Bridge is open to Pedestrians? I really need to get to St Johns from the centre and don't fancy swimming.

Thanks in advance x

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WilkoJ says

There was only so much the EA could do to prevent the effects of the flooded river on to nearby roads in Worcester city centre. But there was so much which the highways department could have done to reduce the utter chaos caused on the city's road network as a result of the floods and road closures. How could they have such a total lack of foresight and common sense not to recognise that roads would inevitably be flooded and not to have emergency measures in place in good time? As one on the above comments said, are they really that stupid?

Their constant incompetence not only holds Worcester to ransom, but it makes the city a no go area for motorists, more so on days like this. How much longer do the residents of Worcestershire have to suffer from their ineptitude?

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JW: We'll try to find out, Nicola

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Dave Throup, Environment Agency Manager for Herefordshire and Worcestershire, says river levels are unlikely to reach the heights of 2007 but that properties have been flooded across the county, including the Rose and Crown pub in Severn Stoke, homes in Diglis Avenue, East Waterside in Upton, at Callow End and in Kempsey.

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Hwicce says

All the river gauges above Worcester are showing falling levels so this is probably the peak level with it levelling out and falling over the next few hours.

There's a good chance the bridge will be open again for Monday.

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gemma6 says

Bonzodog wrote:
If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does!
Absolutely! I wonder if Worcester is the only city with half a ring road?

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Bonzodog says

If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does!

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Doogie 46 says

Yes, those traffic lights at the St Peters roundabout really are appreciated right now (I don`t think!!!) Not to mention the lights by St Peters Garden Centre cutting off more escape routes.
It would be great if they could be removed for a few days but I suspect too many unfilled holes have been created.
A bit of foresight isn`t too much to ask from our highly paid "experts" surely.

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saucerer says

Can we now expect the highways department to make a parody video about their roads being flooded, which affects the public, very much like their pothole video?

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saucerer says

I was in town this morning and total and utter chaos, thanks in no small part to the inadequacies (again!) of Worcestershire county council's highways department. From all the weather and EA reports, they must have know the level of the river was going to rise and affect some roads, so why on earth didn't they have any contingency plans in place yesterday evevning? They should have had signs out all around the city in good time saying Worcester bridge was closed, and even have signs on the outskirts of the city, so that anyone wanting to get from one side of the river to the other would had enough advance notice and could have found alternative routes rather than heading in to the city centre, adding to the traffic chaos. I mean, for example, a sign placed on the A449 southbound before Ombersely saying Worcester bridge closed could have meant that people could use Holt Fleet bridge if needed rather than going towards the city centre to only find out then that Worcester bridge is closed.

And the constant disruption caused by incessant roadworks has made matters worse. Why, again, didn't the highways engineers arrange for the roadworks, expecially those on main routes like Bath Road and Droiwtich Road, to be suspended last night?

Are our highways staff really that stupid? Their constant ineptitude makes Worcester such an appalling place to drive around at the best of times whiel also causing much frustration and distress amongst the public. This department needs a thorough shaking up.

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Worcestershire County Council update on road closures:

The following road closures are currently in place due to the recent heavy rainfall and subsequent flooding:

Worcester city centre closures:

Worcester bridge closed including New Road, Castle Street, Deansway, Dolday, North Parade, Croft Road and Tybridge Street. local diversions in place.

A442 closed between A449 and A450 Torton NOW OPENA443 Lindridge

 

C2022 Jubilee Bridge, Fladbury (also Brook Lane, Cropthorne)

B4088 Eckington Bridge

C2258 Station Road, Hinton - NOW OPEN 7/2/14 14:00
Temporary footbridge, Abbey Road, Evesham

A443 Hylton Road, Worcester - closed 8/2/14 at 07:30

B4195 Stourport Road, Bewdley (from junction with Beale's Corner, Stourport Road to junction with Westbourne Street)

C2099 New Street, Upton-on-Severn

B4211 Hanley Road, Upton-on-Severn

Shell Ford (Bradley Green to Himbleton)

Walcot Ford (Pershore to Drakes Broughton)

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Saving The Mother in Laws wine from the cellar while she's on holibobs! By Catherine Badham via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

JW: She'll need that when she gets back, Catherine!

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Moltaire says

Can the highways department, for once, introduce some common sense in to their operations and get all roadworks in Worcester suspended or altered to allow traffic to get around while the Worcester bridge is closed.

Worcester's road network is appalling managed at the best of times dur to por road design and traffic management by the numpties at County Hall, but today is absolute chaos. Surely they must have known the river level was going to rise so why didn't they do anything last night to mitigate the problem and give motorists enough notice and put emergency measures in to place prior to this morning. It seems the solution to everything by the highways department is put some signs out, that's all. Pull your fingers out guys and try and show us all that you're not continually useless.

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Hylton Road, Worcester, by Richard Taylor via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Our reporter @SarahTaylorWN is checking on the situation in Worcester city centre.

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Pomygranit says

Anyone from Severn Trent:
Can you get yourselves into gear, suspend the roadworks on BathRoad now, get someone out of their pit and do it.

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All roads City centre side by Police Station & river now closed by police. By Richard Taylor via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Think it can't get any worse? Think again.

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CHANDBRUSH says

Road between Droitwich and Tibberton has flooded for the last 20years what does Council do puts up warning signs even in summer .Most of the ditches are filled in.

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I took this by the Worcester river bridge, looking down towards Hylton Road. By Tracey Marlow-Jones via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Bonzodog says

As predicted yesterday, huge queues southbound down Bath Road ... Just avoid.

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Ploughing through floods at Upton, via Catherine Badham www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Does anyone know?

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Car park wakeboarding at croft road — with Steven Burgess and 2 others. Via Gemma Rawlings www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Hearing that Worcester is at a stand still.

A number of roads around the city are soon to be closed, including Worcester Bridge, New Road, Castle Street, Deansway, Dolday, North Parade, Croft Road and Tybridge Street.

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People are being advised to avoid travelling into Worcester city centre as more roads become blocked by flood water.

Worcestershire County Council has said they will be closing the following roads in the city from 12.30am today: New Road, Castle Street, Deansway, Dolday, North Parade, Croft Road and Tybridge Street.

Local diversions will be in place.

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FIREFIGHTERS were called to Stourport Road in Bewdley in at around 4am this morning to assist the Environment Agency pump overspill water back into river.

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Diglis, by Richard Taylor via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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THE county took another battering last night as more rain and wind hit Worcestershire.

The huge gusts of wind partially blew a flat roof from two properties in Malvern.

The fireservice was called to the homes in Lower Howsell Road at about 3.16pm yesterday.

Crews from Malvern were called to the scene and the Worcester aerial appliance also attended.

In Worcester city centre the River Severn, which isn't expected to peak until tomorrow, is said to be at its highest in six to seven years.

Water from the river began spilling into Hylton Road in front of Cripplegate Park at about 4.30pm yesterday.

One lane is currently blocked.

The flood gates in Hylton Road are also up as water covers the road.

Other roads across Worcestershire are also closed or unpassable. These include:

Beale's Corner, Stourport Road, Bewdley

A442 closed between A449 and A450 Torton

C2022 Jubilee Bridge, Fladbury (also Brook Lane, Cropthorne)

B4088 Eckington Bridge

C2258 Station Road, Hinton - NOW OPEN 7/2/14 14:00

The temporary footbridge, Abbey Road, Evesham

A443 Hylton Road, Worcester - closed 8/2/14 at 07:30

B4195 Stourport Road, Bewdley (from junction with Beale's Corner, Stourport Road to junction with Westbourne Street)

C2099 New Street, Upton-on-Severn

B4211 Hanley Road, Upton-on-Severn

Shell Ford (Bradley Green to Himbleton)

Walcot Ford (Pershore to Drakes Broughton)

Lincomb Lane, Stourport- due to fallen tree

See worcestershire.gov.uk for bus closures across the county.

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Diglis, Worcester, this morning. Picture by Richard Taylor via www.facebook.com/theworcesternews

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Can someone please send us a picture of Waterside so we can verify situation?

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12:32pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Bonzodog says...

As predicted yesterday, huge queues southbound down Bath Road ... Just avoid.
As predicted yesterday, huge queues southbound down Bath Road ... Just avoid. Bonzodog

12:38pm Sun 9 Feb 14

CHANDBRUSH says...

Road between Droitwich and Tibberton has flooded for the last 20years what does Council do puts up warning signs even in summer .Most of the ditches are filled in.
Road between Droitwich and Tibberton has flooded for the last 20years what does Council do puts up warning signs even in summer .Most of the ditches are filled in. CHANDBRUSH

12:46pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Pomygranit says...

Anyone from Severn Trent:
Can you get yourselves into gear, suspend the roadworks on BathRoad now, get someone out of their pit and do it.
Anyone from Severn Trent: Can you get yourselves into gear, suspend the roadworks on BathRoad now, get someone out of their pit and do it. Pomygranit

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Moltaire says...

Can the highways department, for once, introduce some common sense in to their operations and get all roadworks in Worcester suspended or altered to allow traffic to get around while the Worcester bridge is closed.

Worcester's road network is appalling managed at the best of times dur to por road design and traffic management by the numpties at County Hall, but today is absolute chaos. Surely they must have known the river level was going to rise so why didn't they do anything last night to mitigate the problem and give motorists enough notice and put emergency measures in to place prior to this morning. It seems the solution to everything by the highways department is put some signs out, that's all. Pull your fingers out guys and try and show us all that you're not continually useless.
Can the highways department, for once, introduce some common sense in to their operations and get all roadworks in Worcester suspended or altered to allow traffic to get around while the Worcester bridge is closed. Worcester's road network is appalling managed at the best of times dur to por road design and traffic management by the numpties at County Hall, but today is absolute chaos. Surely they must have known the river level was going to rise so why didn't they do anything last night to mitigate the problem and give motorists enough notice and put emergency measures in to place prior to this morning. It seems the solution to everything by the highways department is put some signs out, that's all. Pull your fingers out guys and try and show us all that you're not continually useless. Moltaire

1:21pm Sun 9 Feb 14

saucerer says...

I was in town this morning and total and utter chaos, thanks in no small part to the inadequacies (again!) of Worcestershire county council's highways department. From all the weather and EA reports, they must have know the level of the river was going to rise and affect some roads, so why on earth didn't they have any contingency plans in place yesterday evevning? They should have had signs out all around the city in good time saying Worcester bridge was closed, and even have signs on the outskirts of the city, so that anyone wanting to get from one side of the river to the other would had enough advance notice and could have found alternative routes rather than heading in to the city centre, adding to the traffic chaos. I mean, for example, a sign placed on the A449 southbound before Ombersely saying Worcester bridge closed could have meant that people could use Holt Fleet bridge if needed rather than going towards the city centre to only find out then that Worcester bridge is closed.

And the constant disruption caused by incessant roadworks has made matters worse. Why, again, didn't the highways engineers arrange for the roadworks, expecially those on main routes like Bath Road and Droiwtich Road, to be suspended last night?

Are our highways staff really that stupid? Their constant ineptitude makes Worcester such an appalling place to drive around at the best of times whiel also causing much frustration and distress amongst the public. This department needs a thorough shaking up.
I was in town this morning and total and utter chaos, thanks in no small part to the inadequacies (again!) of Worcestershire county council's highways department. From all the weather and EA reports, they must have know the level of the river was going to rise and affect some roads, so why on earth didn't they have any contingency plans in place yesterday evevning? They should have had signs out all around the city in good time saying Worcester bridge was closed, and even have signs on the outskirts of the city, so that anyone wanting to get from one side of the river to the other would had enough advance notice and could have found alternative routes rather than heading in to the city centre, adding to the traffic chaos. I mean, for example, a sign placed on the A449 southbound before Ombersely saying Worcester bridge closed could have meant that people could use Holt Fleet bridge if needed rather than going towards the city centre to only find out then that Worcester bridge is closed. And the constant disruption caused by incessant roadworks has made matters worse. Why, again, didn't the highways engineers arrange for the roadworks, expecially those on main routes like Bath Road and Droiwtich Road, to be suspended last night? Are our highways staff really that stupid? Their constant ineptitude makes Worcester such an appalling place to drive around at the best of times whiel also causing much frustration and distress amongst the public. This department needs a thorough shaking up. saucerer

1:24pm Sun 9 Feb 14

saucerer says...

Can we now expect the highways department to make a parody video about their roads being flooded, which affects the public, very much like their pothole video?
Can we now expect the highways department to make a parody video about their roads being flooded, which affects the public, very much like their pothole video? saucerer

1:25pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Doogie 46 says...

Yes, those traffic lights at the St Peters roundabout really are appreciated right now (I don`t think!!!) Not to mention the lights by St Peters Garden Centre cutting off more escape routes.
It would be great if they could be removed for a few days but I suspect too many unfilled holes have been created.
A bit of foresight isn`t too much to ask from our highly paid "experts" surely.
Yes, those traffic lights at the St Peters roundabout really are appreciated right now (I don`t think!!!) Not to mention the lights by St Peters Garden Centre cutting off more escape routes. It would be great if they could be removed for a few days but I suspect too many unfilled holes have been created. A bit of foresight isn`t too much to ask from our highly paid "experts" surely. Doogie 46

1:30pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Bonzodog says...

If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does!
If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does! Bonzodog

1:42pm Sun 9 Feb 14

gemma6 says...

Bonzodog wrote:
If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does!
Absolutely! I wonder if Worcester is the only city with half a ring road?
[quote][p][bold]Bonzodog[/bold] wrote: If this situation doesn't make the case for a new bridge north of the city ( with the completion of the ring road) I really don't know what does![/p][/quote]Absolutely! I wonder if Worcester is the only city with half a ring road? gemma6

1:44pm Sun 9 Feb 14

brooksider says...

All the buffon Adrian Hardman can say is 'well it is the year of the horse'.
The Chairman of Worcestershire County Council showing again how out of touch he is.
No wonder he has problems attracting business into the area.
He should be getting of his considerable backside and sorting out the problems caused by his Highways Department.
All the buffon Adrian Hardman can say is 'well it is the year of the horse'. The Chairman of Worcestershire County Council showing again how out of touch he is. No wonder he has problems attracting business into the area. He should be getting of his considerable backside and sorting out the problems caused by his Highways Department. brooksider

1:46pm Sun 9 Feb 14

saucerer says...

Doogie 46 wrote:
Yes, those traffic lights at the St Peters roundabout really are appreciated right now (I don`t think!!!) Not to mention the lights by St Peters Garden Centre cutting off more escape routes.
It would be great if they could be removed for a few days but I suspect too many unfilled holes have been created.
A bit of foresight isn`t too much to ask from our highly paid "experts" surely.
The only thing these highway "experts" are good at are checking their large salaries and wondering what they can spend undeserved wages on. Just look at the head of the highways department and his £80k salary for example.
[quote][p][bold]Doogie 46[/bold] wrote: Yes, those traffic lights at the St Peters roundabout really are appreciated right now (I don`t think!!!) Not to mention the lights by St Peters Garden Centre cutting off more escape routes. It would be great if they could be removed for a few days but I suspect too many unfilled holes have been created. A bit of foresight isn`t too much to ask from our highly paid "experts" surely.[/p][/quote]The only thing these highway "experts" are good at are checking their large salaries and wondering what they can spend undeserved wages on. Just look at the head of the highways department and his £80k salary for example. saucerer

1:50pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

All the river gauges above Worcester are showing falling levels so this is probably the peak level with it levelling out and falling over the next few hours.

There's a good chance the bridge will be open again for Monday.
All the river gauges above Worcester are showing falling levels so this is probably the peak level with it levelling out and falling over the next few hours. There's a good chance the bridge will be open again for Monday. Hwicce

2:06pm Sun 9 Feb 14

WilkoJ says...

There was only so much the EA could do to prevent the effects of the flooded river on to nearby roads in Worcester city centre. But there was so much which the highways department could have done to reduce the utter chaos caused on the city's road network as a result of the floods and road closures. How could they have such a total lack of foresight and common sense not to recognise that roads would inevitably be flooded and not to have emergency measures in place in good time? As one on the above comments said, are they really that stupid?

Their constant incompetence not only holds Worcester to ransom, but it makes the city a no go area for motorists, more so on days like this. How much longer do the residents of Worcestershire have to suffer from their ineptitude?
There was only so much the EA could do to prevent the effects of the flooded river on to nearby roads in Worcester city centre. But there was so much which the highways department could have done to reduce the utter chaos caused on the city's road network as a result of the floods and road closures. How could they have such a total lack of foresight and common sense not to recognise that roads would inevitably be flooded and not to have emergency measures in place in good time? As one on the above comments said, are they really that stupid? Their constant incompetence not only holds Worcester to ransom, but it makes the city a no go area for motorists, more so on days like this. How much longer do the residents of Worcestershire have to suffer from their ineptitude? WilkoJ

2:31pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Sasha888 says...

Hello!
Does anybody know if Worcester City Bridge is open to Pedestrians? I really need to get to St Johns from the centre and don't fancy swimming.

Thanks in advance x
Hello! Does anybody know if Worcester City Bridge is open to Pedestrians? I really need to get to St Johns from the centre and don't fancy swimming. Thanks in advance x Sasha888

3:18pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

Sasha888 wrote:
Hello!
Does anybody know if Worcester City Bridge is open to Pedestrians? I really need to get to St Johns from the centre and don't fancy swimming.

Thanks in advance x
Yes it is, just been over it.

There isn't any flooding down Bridge Street or New Road so they could have left the bridge open outbound.

The flooding is by the old pump house (Hylton Road side) and between the Rectifying House and the Severn View Hotel. Even that can easily be walked past.
[quote][p][bold]Sasha888[/bold] wrote: Hello! Does anybody know if Worcester City Bridge is open to Pedestrians? I really need to get to St Johns from the centre and don't fancy swimming. Thanks in advance x[/p][/quote]Yes it is, just been over it. There isn't any flooding down Bridge Street or New Road so they could have left the bridge open outbound. The flooding is by the old pump house (Hylton Road side) and between the Rectifying House and the Severn View Hotel. Even that can easily be walked past. Hwicce

3:36pm Sun 9 Feb 14

rackedoff says...

WilkoJ says it very well. The County Council should absolutely have had the foresight to be prepared for what was obviously going to happen, and to have had contingency plans for keeping the traffic flowing. But it's not just about posting (inadequate) diversion signs in (obscure) places. It's about recognising that there are other issues around Worcester like the road works on St Peters roundabout, that are exacerbating the problem. Simply tell them to cover their holes in the road, remove their traffic lights and get things moving.
WilkoJ says it very well. The County Council should absolutely have had the foresight to be prepared for what was obviously going to happen, and to have had contingency plans for keeping the traffic flowing. But it's not just about posting (inadequate) diversion signs in (obscure) places. It's about recognising that there are other issues around Worcester like the road works on St Peters roundabout, that are exacerbating the problem. Simply tell them to cover their holes in the road, remove their traffic lights and get things moving. rackedoff

3:43pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Pomygranit says...

Does anyone know what is happening with buses tomorrow into Worcester from Dines Green & Henwick Park? Is there going to be a shuttle service and walk over the bridge. I know First do not work Sundays but some information would be useful. I know the pictures are interesting but some practical information would be useful.
Can you walk into the city at the moment?
Does anyone know what is happening with buses tomorrow into Worcester from Dines Green & Henwick Park? Is there going to be a shuttle service and walk over the bridge. I know First do not work Sundays but some information would be useful. I know the pictures are interesting but some practical information would be useful. Can you walk into the city at the moment? Pomygranit

4:08pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Saturn V says...

Here's a tip. Go and oil your bicycle chain and make sure the tyres are pumped up nice and hard
If you live outside Worcester, chuck it in the back of your car now so you can park a few miles outside Worcester and breeze in past all the traffic.
Or work out how long it'll take to walk and see if it's quicker than driving.

This will help keep the roads clearer for buses, taxis, delivery vehicles, the emergency services, the disabled, traffic trying to get through/around Worcester.
Or you can sit in your car for hours blaming everyone else for the traffic.
Here's a tip. Go and oil your bicycle chain and make sure the tyres are pumped up nice and hard If you live outside Worcester, chuck it in the back of your car now so you can park a few miles outside Worcester and breeze in past all the traffic. Or work out how long it'll take to walk and see if it's quicker than driving. This will help keep the roads clearer for buses, taxis, delivery vehicles, the emergency services, the disabled, traffic trying to get through/around Worcester. Or you can sit in your car for hours blaming everyone else for the traffic. Saturn V

4:36pm Sun 9 Feb 14

honeystj says...

If New Road and Bridge St are open and dry, WHY is the town bridge shut?
Both roads could easily be made into two-direction roads for cars, buses, vans only and at least some traffic could get through.
Tomorrow will be chaos for drivers.
If New Road and Bridge St are open and dry, WHY is the town bridge shut? Both roads could easily be made into two-direction roads for cars, buses, vans only and at least some traffic could get through. Tomorrow will be chaos for drivers. honeystj

4:39pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it.

The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge.

The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc.

There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.
I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it. The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge. The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc. There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction. Hwicce

4:46pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Consist on says...

For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!! Consist on

4:55pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Consist on says...

Hwicce wrote:
I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it.

The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge.

The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc.

There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.
Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it. The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge. The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc. There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.[/p][/quote]Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!! Consist on

5:21pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

Consist on wrote:
Hwicce wrote:
I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it.

The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge.

The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc.

There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.
Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!!
Yes I have actually.

If there is so much thought in it why is the outbound route closed? There is not a drop of water on it (as you are the expert).
[quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it. The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge. The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc. There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.[/p][/quote]Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!![/p][/quote]Yes I have actually. If there is so much thought in it why is the outbound route closed? There is not a drop of water on it (as you are the expert). Hwicce

5:49pm Sun 9 Feb 14

honeystj says...

Consist on wrote:
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
I'm sure your husband and his colleagues have been working extremely hard for many, many hours. And he's probably been doing it for years - which makes me surprised you should take others' opinions here so personally.
And if people question the logistics, why is it because they're "only thinking about" themselves? Personally, I shall be cycling to work this week as always, but I really, really feel sorry for those who will have to deal with this and the inconveniences. Is that ok?
[quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!![/p][/quote]I'm sure your husband and his colleagues have been working extremely hard for many, many hours. And he's probably been doing it for years - which makes me surprised you should take others' opinions here so personally. And if people question the logistics, why is it because they're "only thinking about" themselves? Personally, I shall be cycling to work this week as always, but I really, really feel sorry for those who will have to deal with this and the inconveniences. Is that ok? honeystj

6:03pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Consist on says...

Hwicce wrote:
Consist on wrote:
Hwicce wrote:
I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it.

The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge.

The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc.

There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.
Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!!
Yes I have actually.

If there is so much thought in it why is the outbound route closed? There is not a drop of water on it (as you are the expert).
Actually as we speak it is now running through the park and onto new road as the river is rising !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: I have to query the decision to close the bridge at all. It would be interesting to know the rationale behind it. The outbound route - Deansway, Bridge Street, New Road is totally dry so there is no reason to close it. Traffic that would have come down Castle Street could have gone round via City Walls Road and then on to Deansway. It would have been longer but not as long as going out to Carrington Bridge. The inbound route has surface flooding but the crown of the road on both side is only a few inches deep and was passable. All that was required was for cones to be used to bring Tybridge Street down to one lane before the junction and then funnel the traffic along the crown of the road. The same could have been done just past the Rectifying House. That way the road could have stayed open even if it is just for buses, taxis, emergency vehicles etc. There doesn't seem to have been much thought involved more a knee-jerk reaction.[/p][/quote]Have you looked down by the Rectifying House ?!!!! The water is still rising!!! Are you going to be the one that goes to pull cars out of flooded water when they drive down there at night !!!! Lots of thought has been put into this and experience, but hey suddenly everyone's an expert!!!![/p][/quote]Yes I have actually. If there is so much thought in it why is the outbound route closed? There is not a drop of water on it (as you are the expert).[/p][/quote]Actually as we speak it is now running through the park and onto new road as the river is rising !!!! Consist on

6:08pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Consist on says...

honeystj wrote:
Consist on wrote:
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
I'm sure your husband and his colleagues have been working extremely hard for many, many hours. And he's probably been doing it for years - which makes me surprised you should take others' opinions here so personally.
And if people question the logistics, why is it because they're "only thinking about" themselves? Personally, I shall be cycling to work this week as always, but I really, really feel sorry for those who will have to deal with this and the inconveniences. Is that ok?
Yes that's fine but if you are cycling through flood water, watch out for raised manhole covers which flood water can push up!!! And yes he has done this for years and has to put up with the flack, he and his team work very hard in impossible circumstances yet people want to put the blame at their feet, that's why I take it so personally!
[quote][p][bold]honeystj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!![/p][/quote]I'm sure your husband and his colleagues have been working extremely hard for many, many hours. And he's probably been doing it for years - which makes me surprised you should take others' opinions here so personally. And if people question the logistics, why is it because they're "only thinking about" themselves? Personally, I shall be cycling to work this week as always, but I really, really feel sorry for those who will have to deal with this and the inconveniences. Is that ok?[/p][/quote]Yes that's fine but if you are cycling through flood water, watch out for raised manhole covers which flood water can push up!!! And yes he has done this for years and has to put up with the flack, he and his team work very hard in impossible circumstances yet people want to put the blame at their feet, that's why I take it so personally! Consist on

6:39pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Doogie 46 says...

Credit where credit is due - the lights at the St Peters roundabout have been temporarily removed, so we should give a massive "THANK YOU" to the person who took that decision. Bath Road is at this moment almost clear, although it`s still very heavy and slow moving on the southern ring road.
Just thought I should mention it as we`ve all been castigating the Highways Dept and Severn Trent all afternoon.
Credit where credit is due - the lights at the St Peters roundabout have been temporarily removed, so we should give a massive "THANK YOU" to the person who took that decision. Bath Road is at this moment almost clear, although it`s still very heavy and slow moving on the southern ring road. Just thought I should mention it as we`ve all been castigating the Highways Dept and Severn Trent all afternoon. Doogie 46

7:36pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Redhillman says...

Consist on wrote:
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff.

If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures.

And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos.
[quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!![/p][/quote]There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff. If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures. And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos. Redhillman

7:49pm Sun 9 Feb 14

DEMRICS says...

Redhillman wrote:
Consist on wrote:
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff.

If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures.

And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos.
Very well summarised Redhillman and totally correct.
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!![/p][/quote]There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff. If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures. And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos.[/p][/quote]Very well summarised Redhillman and totally correct. DEMRICS

8:35pm Sun 9 Feb 14

kidderlord says...

Instaed of moaning at the Highways Dept, who are out there working their butts of with the EA and Police, why don't you all have a go at the budding David Bailey's who have added to the traffic chaos by just going sightseeing. I bet three quarters of the traffic would be gone if people used common sense. Hope it makes you all feel better gawping at other peoples downfall.
Instaed of moaning at the Highways Dept, who are out there working their butts of with the EA and Police, why don't you all have a go at the budding David Bailey's who have added to the traffic chaos by just going sightseeing. I bet three quarters of the traffic would be gone if people used common sense. Hope it makes you all feel better gawping at other peoples downfall. kidderlord

8:44pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Herefordian says...

Any reports of flooding on the A44 Bromyard to Worcester road?
Any reports of flooding on the A44 Bromyard to Worcester road? Herefordian

9:10pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Consist on says...

DEMRICS wrote:
Redhillman wrote:
Consist on wrote:
For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!!
There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff.

If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures.

And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos.
Very well summarised Redhillman and totally correct.
I do not work for the council!!! If people would have kept off the road instead of coming out site seeing , there would not have been so many people on the road to cause the hold ups. Like I said before the roads are closed as a last resort for the safety of all the residents , some people do have to be out and about, doctors, nurses etc., there will never be a good time, if they close it early they are criticised, if they try and keep them open as long as is humanly possible they are criticised, there in a no win situation. Just get off their backs and try supporting them instead moaning about them. They have to make decisions involving many agencies, it all takes time.
[quote][p][bold]DEMRICS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Consist on[/bold] wrote: For goodness sake all you experts get off the back of the highways. If they had shut the roads last night, that would have been wrong! They can never win. You are only interested in 'you' . Try looking at the bigger picture. . It's not as easy as you all seem to think. You only see what effects you!! Before they can close roads which they do as a last resort, to keep people safe, they have to check with police, fire and ambulance etc., they get information from the environment agency and work with them. There will always be disruption, they can't physically stop the rain falling from the sky, but I expect that's their fault too!!!! If most people used there common sense they would have stayed in this morning knowing from weather forecasts it was going to get worse and that roads would possibly have to close, , then there wouldn't have been so much traffic on the road in the first place!!! I along with lots and other wives, families etc have not seen my husband since the early hours he's been working trying to keep people moving, unfortunately he is not god so can't hold back the waters, but my god they have worked hard all day, just back off, !!!![/p][/quote]There were adequate warnings the night before from both the EA and the Met Office that the level of the River Severn would rise further, to a degree which would cause roads to flood this morning. So the question people are asking is why weren't the highways department prepared and implement an adequate contingency plan in good time rather than fire fight at the last minute as what they done today, causing utter mayhem and gridlock in Worcester? No-one is thinking about 'themselves' or criticing the rain, they're commenting on the effects of the total lack of foresight and planning by the highways department. This could be handled in a much more efficient manner, and when you're talking about emergency services, can you imagime how impaired their journeys must have been during the chaos that was caused today? Chaos that was caused by highways staff. If the highways department were felt to be competent, then there'd be little criticism of their activities, but when you look at their track record of incompetence and failings, I think the tax payer has every right to question their abilities. After all, look at Abbey Bridge, the Whittington roundabout, Newtown Road bus lane, rising bollards, wrong colour paint, wrong type of chippings etc, need I go on? Not exactly a pristine track record is it and this latest example of mismanagement during the floods just adds to the list failures. And for you to use some spin and actually have the audacity to blame residents for getting out and about and causing the chaos is frankly shocking, but then that seems like a typical comment you'd expect from the council. The next time you need to go somewhere, perhaps somewhere urgently or neccesary, I trust you will bite your tongue when you're caught up in chaos.[/p][/quote]Very well summarised Redhillman and totally correct.[/p][/quote]I do not work for the council!!! If people would have kept off the road instead of coming out site seeing , there would not have been so many people on the road to cause the hold ups. Like I said before the roads are closed as a last resort for the safety of all the residents , some people do have to be out and about, doctors, nurses etc., there will never be a good time, if they close it early they are criticised, if they try and keep them open as long as is humanly possible they are criticised, there in a no win situation. Just get off their backs and try supporting them instead moaning about them. They have to make decisions involving many agencies, it all takes time. Consist on

11:14pm Sun 9 Feb 14

DarrenM says...

Judging by the amount of photos popping up on "social media" it would appear some people have never seen water before.
No wonder the city was gridlocked it was probably due to all these people trying to get to Quay Street for a photo - They probably look up every time an Aeroplane goes overhead as well :)
Judging by the amount of photos popping up on "social media" it would appear some people have never seen water before. No wonder the city was gridlocked it was probably due to all these people trying to get to Quay Street for a photo - They probably look up every time an Aeroplane goes overhead as well :) DarrenM

3:49am Mon 10 Feb 14

yamoto says...

so does this not add to needing the northern link road, more than ever now ?
so does this not add to needing the northern link road, more than ever now ? yamoto

6:39am Mon 10 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

The River has dropped 5cm overnight. I wonder how long it will take the powers that be to realise.
The River has dropped 5cm overnight. I wonder how long it will take the powers that be to realise. Hwicce

7:41am Mon 10 Feb 14

Andy-Apache says...

One cure for this problem is to build 70,000 unnecessary houses on natural soakaway. I'm sure the millions of tonnes of tarmac and concrete pumped into the soil will help immeasurably...
One cure for this problem is to build 70,000 unnecessary houses on natural soakaway. I'm sure the millions of tonnes of tarmac and concrete pumped into the soil will help immeasurably... Andy-Apache

8:30am Mon 10 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

Hwicce wrote:
The River has dropped 5cm overnight. I wonder how long it will take the powers that be to realise.
Down 6cm now, also reports of a 4inch drop at Bevere.

Is there any water on New Road any more or is it only closed because "They have to make decisions involving many agencies, it all takes time"?

I listened to some twit from County Highways on the radio this morning who didn't seem capable of making a decision to save his life. That seems to be the problem these days we have so many "Heads Of" that they have to have a committee meeting to decide anything.

Simple question - if New Road is dry and the river level is falling why is the outbound route not open?
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: The River has dropped 5cm overnight. I wonder how long it will take the powers that be to realise.[/p][/quote]Down 6cm now, also reports of a 4inch drop at Bevere. Is there any water on New Road any more or is it only closed because "They have to make decisions involving many agencies, it all takes time"? I listened to some twit from County Highways on the radio this morning who didn't seem capable of making a decision to save his life. That seems to be the problem these days we have so many "Heads Of" that they have to have a committee meeting to decide anything. Simple question - if New Road is dry and the river level is falling why is the outbound route not open? Hwicce

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