Traders' dismay at supermarket plan for Barbourne, Worcester

John Anyon          29/1/14          0514508001Former intoto kitchen shop in Barbourne

John Anyon 29/1/14 0514508001Former intoto kitchen shop in Barbourne

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PLANS for a new supermarket in Barbourne, Worcester, have been officially submitted much to the dismay of local traders.

The new Sainsbury's Local proposed for the old Intoto furniture store, in Barbourne Road, would see an extensive refurbishment and 12-space car park be built, as well as about 20 full and part time jobs created.

However, because independent convenience stores in the area have already said how they are likely to be put out of business by the supermarket giant coming in to trade in the area, Worcester City ward councillor, Joy Squires, will speaking to those in the area before a decision can be reached.

She said: "Local food stores will certainly be at a disadvantage if the Sainsbury’s Local at Barbourne goes ahead, though other retailers may well benefit as customers would be able to park at the Sainsbury’s Local and then visit other shops.

"Currently there is virtually no parking available in this area."

However, she also expressed her own concern for the plans as access to the parking spaces will be off St George’s Lane North, a narrow, residential road that is already heavily congested and where turning right or left onto Barbourne Road is difficult.

The family-run Costcutter on the same road, which sells groceries, tobacco and alcohol, said their trade has already been hit by the Co-operative store on Ombersley Road and could not compete with another store.

Gurdeep Singh, from the store, said: "We're not happy at all - it's going to disrupt our business terribly. It is not going to be good for business and a couple of the lads are looking for other jobs because it will affect us so badly.

"Sainsbury's have got such buying power we won't be able to compete with the prices."

But, a spokesman for Sainsbury's said the company was confident the redevelopment of the two-storey building would be positive for the area.

She said: “We are confident that a new Sainsbury’s Local will be a positive addition to the area, bringing genuine benefits to the community by creating around 20 full and part time jobs, increasing footfall and providing more shopping choice for local residents.”

Cllr Squires will present the views of the people trading and living in the local area at a committee meeting in a few weeks time. Representations can be made to the city council about the application by Thursday, March 6, and a decision on the store's future will be made by Thursday, March 27.

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9:42am Sat 22 Feb 14

voledog says...

I'm not sure how the Co-op can have hit Costcutter's trading as it's been trading many years longer than Costcutter has.
I run a small business and I'm in competition with lots of larger companies. I don't sit around whining about how unfair it is. Instead, I provide a better product and a better service than many of my competitors, so I have plenty of business.
I used to go into Mr Singh's shop quite regularly. I'd hand over my money and not once did he say thank you. I can well understand why he's not looking forward to Sainsbury's opening.
I'm not sure how the Co-op can have hit Costcutter's trading as it's been trading many years longer than Costcutter has. I run a small business and I'm in competition with lots of larger companies. I don't sit around whining about how unfair it is. Instead, I provide a better product and a better service than many of my competitors, so I have plenty of business. I used to go into Mr Singh's shop quite regularly. I'd hand over my money and not once did he say thank you. I can well understand why he's not looking forward to Sainsbury's opening. voledog
  • Score: 40

9:54am Sat 22 Feb 14

1twogo says...

I understand the worry of some traders in the area but lets clear up some facts and add a little more information.
The Co-op on Ombersley Road has been there MUCH longer than Costcutters. Costcutters was developed on the site of a previous convenience store, is well established and has already competitive prices in comparison to other national branded small convenience stores (certainly on alcohol). Competition is what the open market is all about and diversity is also part of the mix to augment an already established store. Sainsbury is a well known brand of supermarket and there is no secret how they perform their business or target their customers. Costcutter is a franchise organisation and not really a local independent business (like a one man band), it has great buying power like larger stores (visit http://www.costcutte
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Also, let's not forget that there is a new housing development being built on the site of the old Worcester City Football ground, some 80+ new dwellings.
Is Sainsbury's want to come to Barbourne and cause a price war... we, the consumers and customers will be winners.
There is a very fine line between capitalism and greed... and it is the consumer who feed it. More choice has to be better... maybe?
I understand the worry of some traders in the area but lets clear up some facts and add a little more information. The Co-op on Ombersley Road has been there MUCH longer than Costcutters. Costcutters was developed on the site of a previous convenience store, is well established and has already competitive prices in comparison to other national branded small convenience stores (certainly on alcohol). Competition is what the open market is all about and diversity is also part of the mix to augment an already established store. Sainsbury is a well known brand of supermarket and there is no secret how they perform their business or target their customers. Costcutter is a franchise organisation and not really a local independent business (like a one man band), it has great buying power like larger stores (visit http://www.costcutte rsupermarketsgroup.c om/wp-content/downlo ad/sales-presenter.p df where you can find out more). Also, let's not forget that there is a new housing development being built on the site of the old Worcester City Football ground, some 80+ new dwellings. Is Sainsbury's want to come to Barbourne and cause a price war... we, the consumers and customers will be winners. There is a very fine line between capitalism and greed... and it is the consumer who feed it. More choice has to be better... maybe? 1twogo
  • Score: 27

9:58am Sat 22 Feb 14

green49 says...

This WILL be another nail in the coffin pf small local traders, look at London Road, Tesco express ia a dangerous place to get in and out of (mainly because of braindead motorists), but it killed the local established trade, its a fact if you sell the same as Tesco,Sainsburys etc etc then you will be out of Buisness,
This WILL be another nail in the coffin pf small local traders, look at London Road, Tesco express ia a dangerous place to get in and out of (mainly because of braindead motorists), but it killed the local established trade, its a fact if you sell the same as Tesco,Sainsburys etc etc then you will be out of Buisness, green49
  • Score: -17

10:58am Sat 22 Feb 14

Worcester Lad says...

This is good news for the area and with the housing development there should be enough customers to keep everyone happy. More choice for more people.
This is good news for the area and with the housing development there should be enough customers to keep everyone happy. More choice for more people. Worcester Lad
  • Score: 18

11:45am Sat 22 Feb 14

liketoknow says...

space for twelve cars! they're going to do a lot of trade then.
space for twelve cars! they're going to do a lot of trade then. liketoknow
  • Score: 2

12:08pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Jabbadad says...

12 car spaces where will the 20+ staff park then?
I totally disagree with voledog over the staff at Costcutters, each time I have been in there it has always been clean well stocked and friendly.
As to Sainsbury having been using Warndon store since it opened but less and less now, and if they charge the same prices as Warndon they won't be too competetive, since as a pensioner , apart from their own brands I couldn't shop at Warndon for all my needs.
And for the supermarket giants to move into convenience stores is just pure greed and most of their goods are a few pence dearer than their main branches.
A friend of mine worked for many years in the Sainsbury by the Cathedral and it was a very profitable store always hitting targets, and offering a different one to one service and knowing the customers. Which to the amazement of the staff was closed. So they don't consider staff or customers. I have point blank refused to use the self service tills which again are taking peoples jobs,. Think of that when next you are using one.
12 car spaces where will the 20+ staff park then? I totally disagree with voledog over the staff at Costcutters, each time I have been in there it has always been clean well stocked and friendly. As to Sainsbury having been using Warndon store since it opened but less and less now, and if they charge the same prices as Warndon they won't be too competetive, since as a pensioner , apart from their own brands I couldn't shop at Warndon for all my needs. And for the supermarket giants to move into convenience stores is just pure greed and most of their goods are a few pence dearer than their main branches. A friend of mine worked for many years in the Sainsbury by the Cathedral and it was a very profitable store always hitting targets, and offering a different one to one service and knowing the customers. Which to the amazement of the staff was closed. So they don't consider staff or customers. I have point blank refused to use the self service tills which again are taking peoples jobs,. Think of that when next you are using one. Jabbadad
  • Score: -17

12:26pm Sat 22 Feb 14

grannieannie says...

I would be extremely concerned about Sainsbury's plans for this building incorporating 12 parking spaces. Anyone who regularly tries to exit St. Georges Lane North onto Barbourne Road will appreciate how difficult and dangerous it is, particularly during the evening rush hour. The Co-op store being referred to is I think, not the main supermarket, but the smaller store further up by Listers.
I have known Gurdeep Singh and his family for a number of years, his father originally ran the shop on the corner of Pitchcroft Lane by the park. They have provided us all with good service, my family and friends have been treated with politeness and courtesy by Gurdeep and the majority of his staff.
I would be extremely concerned about Sainsbury's plans for this building incorporating 12 parking spaces. Anyone who regularly tries to exit St. Georges Lane North onto Barbourne Road will appreciate how difficult and dangerous it is, particularly during the evening rush hour. The Co-op store being referred to is I think, not the main supermarket, but the smaller store further up by Listers. I have known Gurdeep Singh and his family for a number of years, his father originally ran the shop on the corner of Pitchcroft Lane by the park. They have provided us all with good service, my family and friends have been treated with politeness and courtesy by Gurdeep and the majority of his staff. grannieannie
  • Score: -8

12:29pm Sat 22 Feb 14

mooms32 says...

I worked at the Lychgate store, and agree that it was a retrograde step to close it. However, I welcome Sainsburys returning with a 'handbasket' store- brilliant for the area, and for people who find the larger stores a bit overwhelming!
I worked at the Lychgate store, and agree that it was a retrograde step to close it. However, I welcome Sainsburys returning with a 'handbasket' store- brilliant for the area, and for people who find the larger stores a bit overwhelming! mooms32
  • Score: 16

12:42pm Sat 22 Feb 14

1twogo says...

Competition is healthy. Monopolies, cartels et al are detrimental to the consumer. The public are always looking for bargains and promotions that draw us into stores where the owners try to encourage us to buy more. This is called marketing.

Everyone has a choice to make where they shop. Be it loyalty, bargains, Nectar points, Club Card points, cheaper fuel, bigger choice of products etc. it is the consumer that holds the success of failure.

Running a business takes determination, creativity, diversity and above all, effort. Those who have weathered the storm of the economic downturn have a stronger foothold when the markets start to thrive again.

Market research is a far better tool than gathering petitions or complaining.

Barbourne 40 years ago had a green grocer, post office, petrol station, café, hardware store, butcher, baker and probably even a candle stick maker. Sadly many, if not all of these small businesses have gone. Not really due to the big brands coming into the city, but down to the choice of the people. It is sad but with the scales of economy and the purchasing power of big companies it is inevitable there some losers.

What has closed down after Costcutters opened? The newsagent, the butcher and a green grocer. Did Costcutther worry about them... or were they happy to 'take up the slack' selling fresh veg, media and pre-packed meats?

These are the facts, just think before you reason!
Competition is healthy. Monopolies, cartels et al are detrimental to the consumer. The public are always looking for bargains and promotions that draw us into stores where the owners try to encourage us to buy more. This is called marketing. Everyone has a choice to make where they shop. Be it loyalty, bargains, Nectar points, Club Card points, cheaper fuel, bigger choice of products etc. it is the consumer that holds the success of failure. Running a business takes determination, creativity, diversity and above all, effort. Those who have weathered the storm of the economic downturn have a stronger foothold when the markets start to thrive again. Market research is a far better tool than gathering petitions or complaining. Barbourne 40 years ago had a green grocer, post office, petrol station, café, hardware store, butcher, baker and probably even a candle stick maker. Sadly many, if not all of these small businesses have gone. Not really due to the big brands coming into the city, but down to the choice of the people. It is sad but with the scales of economy and the purchasing power of big companies it is inevitable there some losers. What has closed down after Costcutters opened? The newsagent, the butcher and a green grocer. Did Costcutther worry about them... or were they happy to 'take up the slack' selling fresh veg, media and pre-packed meats? These are the facts, just think before you reason! 1twogo
  • Score: 21

3:01pm Sat 22 Feb 14

DeBrian Thronker says...

The only shop that I'm worried for is the Modern Newsagent - truly a landmark of Barbourne/ Tything. Don't care much for costcutter, as they put several shops out of business themselves and I always find Mr Singh to be thoroughly unappreciative of my trade.
The only shop that I'm worried for is the Modern Newsagent - truly a landmark of Barbourne/ Tything. Don't care much for costcutter, as they put several shops out of business themselves and I always find Mr Singh to be thoroughly unappreciative of my trade. DeBrian Thronker
  • Score: 30

4:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

liketoknow says...

costcutters can certainly compete with the larger stores, if not on range; certainly on prices
costcutters can certainly compete with the larger stores, if not on range; certainly on prices liketoknow
  • Score: 3

6:19pm Sat 22 Feb 14

barbourne-worcester says...

Brilliant hope it goes ahead! You can't buy any fresh fruit or veg from costcutters plus they are miserable
Brilliant hope it goes ahead! You can't buy any fresh fruit or veg from costcutters plus they are miserable barbourne-worcester
  • Score: 22

6:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Ron Chambers says...

The plans for Sainsbury's in Barbourne is crazy .Congestion on St Georges Lane is difficult at best. With the new homes being built this is going to make things worse. Having contacted highway's and police to no avail parking outside school (against the law) continuing things will get worse, until someone gets injured or killed.
Costcutters sell a very wide range of goods and I find the staff most approachable. Having spoke to a lot of residents in the area many are against this proposal.
The plans for Sainsbury's in Barbourne is crazy .Congestion on St Georges Lane is difficult at best. With the new homes being built this is going to make things worse. Having contacted highway's and police to no avail parking outside school (against the law) continuing things will get worse, until someone gets injured or killed. Costcutters sell a very wide range of goods and I find the staff most approachable. Having spoke to a lot of residents in the area many are against this proposal. Ron Chambers
  • Score: -21

7:06pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Helloxkitty says...

How can costcutter be affected by the coop on ombersley road, they were there years before costcutter was!! I do think it would be good for the area.
How can costcutter be affected by the coop on ombersley road, they were there years before costcutter was!! I do think it would be good for the area. Helloxkitty
  • Score: 17

10:30pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Hwicce says...

So one retailer doesn't want a bit of competition. Tough.

As a customer I am quite happy to have a wider selection, bring on Sainsbury's.
So one retailer doesn't want a bit of competition. Tough. As a customer I am quite happy to have a wider selection, bring on Sainsbury's. Hwicce
  • Score: 21

10:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Small Town says...

Jobs, competition, result.

No different to Gregg's opening next door to Colstons, or Jessica's Pick 'n Mix Sweets down the road from Warmans.

More choice, better value.
Jobs, competition, result. No different to Gregg's opening next door to Colstons, or Jessica's Pick 'n Mix Sweets down the road from Warmans. More choice, better value. Small Town
  • Score: 22

11:22am Sun 23 Feb 14

liketoknow says...

there is a certain irony here.supermarkets were responsible for the demise of the little corner shop, which ;to my knowledge no longer exists anywhere. whats the saying? live by the sword , die by the sword.
there is a certain irony here.supermarkets were responsible for the demise of the little corner shop, which ;to my knowledge no longer exists anywhere. whats the saying? live by the sword , die by the sword. liketoknow
  • Score: 1

8:46am Mon 24 Feb 14

green49 says...

Well as usual most the comments on here are from a purely selfish view, having lost a small buisness due to the Tesco Express location i have first hand knowledge of what can happen, I You cannot compete price wise, whats the point of having too many shops selling the same things in the same areas? at the top of london road there is a proposed waitrose? why when theres a Tesco express less that half a mile down the road and a spar at the local garage about the same distance, then two tescos within 2 miles in either direction at St Peters and Warndon. I think its TOO MANY and the local small buisness will be out yet again. As i said if you sell the same as the big boys and your in that area you will be doomed as you cannot compete.
Well as usual most the comments on here are from a purely selfish view, having lost a small buisness due to the Tesco Express location i have first hand knowledge of what can happen, I You cannot compete price wise, whats the point of having too many shops selling the same things in the same areas? at the top of london road there is a proposed waitrose? why when theres a Tesco express less that half a mile down the road and a spar at the local garage about the same distance, then two tescos within 2 miles in either direction at St Peters and Warndon. I think its TOO MANY and the local small buisness will be out yet again. As i said if you sell the same as the big boys and your in that area you will be doomed as you cannot compete. green49
  • Score: -7

11:33am Mon 24 Feb 14

marthajones says...

this has turned into campaign against Mr Singh, these internet trolls probably funded by Sainsbury et al are behind these comments like usual.
this has turned into campaign against Mr Singh, these internet trolls probably funded by Sainsbury et al are behind these comments like usual. marthajones
  • Score: -22

12:28pm Mon 24 Feb 14

1twogo says...

marthajones wrote:
this has turned into campaign against Mr Singh, these internet trolls probably funded by Sainsbury et al are behind these comments like usual.
Such nonsense, it’s about choice and competition and there is nothing personal about that. It’s about big fish and small fish. Brook Stores, as it was before Costcutter came along, was one of the small fish that was swallowed up and made bigger and better. If there is a demand for a new convenience store in Barbourne then maybe the current ones should have seen this as an opportunity to expand or perhaps consider moving to the proposed Sainsbury site before it was snapped up? Business is not just about contentment to stay as one is, but it’s also about keeping an eye on both the macro and micro environment it is located in. If Sainsburys do come to Barbourne then it is up to the established shops to up their game, or roll over and submit.
[quote][p][bold]marthajones[/bold] wrote: this has turned into campaign against Mr Singh, these internet trolls probably funded by Sainsbury et al are behind these comments like usual.[/p][/quote]Such nonsense, it’s about choice and competition and there is nothing personal about that. It’s about big fish and small fish. Brook Stores, as it was before Costcutter came along, was one of the small fish that was swallowed up and made bigger and better. If there is a demand for a new convenience store in Barbourne then maybe the current ones should have seen this as an opportunity to expand or perhaps consider moving to the proposed Sainsbury site before it was snapped up? Business is not just about contentment to stay as one is, but it’s also about keeping an eye on both the macro and micro environment it is located in. If Sainsburys do come to Barbourne then it is up to the established shops to up their game, or roll over and submit. 1twogo
  • Score: 15

1:48pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Jabbadad says...

Despite the fact that 1twogo talks without any experience as to what happens to small businesses when the big boys steamroll over them, this site is on a corner and already busy, and due to having to cross a bus lane to get into the traffic flow is dangerous. To locate a food outlet which will undoubtably encourage more traffic demonstrates that the chaos following the bad traffic layout in St Johns and alo caused by a Sainsbury store has taught us nothing.
Despite the fact that 1twogo talks without any experience as to what happens to small businesses when the big boys steamroll over them, this site is on a corner and already busy, and due to having to cross a bus lane to get into the traffic flow is dangerous. To locate a food outlet which will undoubtably encourage more traffic demonstrates that the chaos following the bad traffic layout in St Johns and alo caused by a Sainsbury store has taught us nothing. Jabbadad
  • Score: -8

3:03pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Raniator says...

Don't see the problem with this. It's a dog-eat-dog world and Sainsbury's have got bigger balls.
Don't see the problem with this. It's a dog-eat-dog world and Sainsbury's have got bigger balls. Raniator
  • Score: 11

1:41am Tue 25 Feb 14

1twogo says...

Ok Jabbadad. I have a BA in business management. My arguments are sourced and are based on educated facts, not on supposition. There is no fact about where the entrance for vehicles will be so please don't surmise this issue. I have lived in this area for 40 years and have seen many business come and go. Yes, some things are a little controversial such as the introduction of the bus lane but we now live in the 21st century with better traffic regulations and planning laws that take all factors into consideration.

I urge Jabbadad to carefully read my comments before making such rash statements.
Ok Jabbadad. I have a BA in business management. My arguments are sourced and are based on educated facts, not on supposition. There is no fact about where the entrance for vehicles will be so please don't surmise this issue. I have lived in this area for 40 years and have seen many business come and go. Yes, some things are a little controversial such as the introduction of the bus lane but we now live in the 21st century with better traffic regulations and planning laws that take all factors into consideration. I urge Jabbadad to carefully read my comments before making such rash statements. 1twogo
  • Score: 6

8:39am Tue 25 Feb 14

green49 says...

Choice and competition is what buisness is all about but it is a fact that the big boys are steam rolling over small buisness, They have no reguard for our locals or enviroment its just profit, as i said above i had to close my place on london road as Tesco supplied what i sold in one big store plus more items and they had a petrol outlet, i could not compete although my prices matched most of theres, I bought local fresh produce aswell so the suppliers of that had to go somewhere else, I had to put 6 people out of work due to it all, fortunatley i managed to find work elsewhere for 4 of them but i do not see any need for too many Supermarket small shops in one place, IT IS BAD NEWS for small local shops when a development like this is trying to get into the area your in.
Choice and competition is what buisness is all about but it is a fact that the big boys are steam rolling over small buisness, They have no reguard for our locals or enviroment its just profit, as i said above i had to close my place on london road as Tesco supplied what i sold in one big store plus more items and they had a petrol outlet, i could not compete although my prices matched most of theres, I bought local fresh produce aswell so the suppliers of that had to go somewhere else, I had to put 6 people out of work due to it all, fortunatley i managed to find work elsewhere for 4 of them but i do not see any need for too many Supermarket small shops in one place, IT IS BAD NEWS for small local shops when a development like this is trying to get into the area your in. green49
  • Score: -2

1:21pm Tue 25 Feb 14

loginthelog says...

"other retailers may well benefit as customers would be able to park at the Sainsbury’s Local and then visit other shops"

I'm not sure Sainsbury's will be too happy about people parking in their car park and then going off shopping around Barbourne, so not sure how this argument about better parking in the area stacks up. I'm not overly familiar with the area, but it doesn't sound like the safest/best place to put a car park.
"other retailers may well benefit as customers would be able to park at the Sainsbury’s Local and then visit other shops" I'm not sure Sainsbury's will be too happy about people parking in their car park and then going off shopping around Barbourne, so not sure how this argument about better parking in the area stacks up. I'm not overly familiar with the area, but it doesn't sound like the safest/best place to put a car park. loginthelog
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Kenni says...

This unit has A1 usage consent. Sainsburys can move in tomorrow and set up shop (as the building stands) regardless if it would cause traffic problems or the need to submit planning. Its gonna happen.
This unit has A1 usage consent. Sainsburys can move in tomorrow and set up shop (as the building stands) regardless if it would cause traffic problems or the need to submit planning. Its gonna happen. Kenni
  • Score: 5

9:12am Sat 1 Mar 14

roguetomato says...

Competition is good. It would mean Costcutter has to up their game. Big stores do not mean that the little ones will go out of business - Not all of the time anyway.

Take the huge Tesco store in St. Peters for example...Literally right by it, by the road is a Costcutter store with a Post Office. They're fine, and they are by the biggest Tesco store in Worcester. Also, there is a corner shop at the back of Custcutter (Barbourne), that's still in business, so clearly there is room for everyone.

There are many examples of different stores working well in the same location, such as the BP garage and the Texaco garage on Tolladine road, one directly after the other selling fuel.

The Texaco garage on Ombersley road and the Texaco garage on Droitwich road...Right by each other, all be it on a different road though, but close none the less.

Don't be blind by thinking any of these stores care about us - They do care about our custom though, and they'd prefer to get as much custom as possible with as little effort as possible and that's about to change.

These places offer a product / service no different to anything else, and they have to fight to keep us interested, just like any other business.

You'll find that the best things and services in life are the best because they've got a lot of competition. No competition equals laziness, which equals poor service / product!
Competition is good. It would mean Costcutter has to up their game. Big stores do not mean that the little ones will go out of business - Not all of the time anyway. Take the huge Tesco store in St. Peters for example...Literally right by it, by the road is a Costcutter store with a Post Office. They're fine, and they are by the biggest Tesco store in Worcester. Also, there is a corner shop at the back of Custcutter (Barbourne), that's still in business, so clearly there is room for everyone. There are many examples of different stores working well in the same location, such as the BP garage and the Texaco garage on Tolladine road, one directly after the other selling fuel. The Texaco garage on Ombersley road and the Texaco garage on Droitwich road...Right by each other, all be it on a different road though, but close none the less. Don't be blind by thinking any of these stores care about us - They do care about our custom though, and they'd prefer to get as much custom as possible with as little effort as possible and that's about to change. These places offer a product / service no different to anything else, and they have to fight to keep us interested, just like any other business. You'll find that the best things and services in life are the best because they've got a lot of competition. No competition equals laziness, which equals poor service / product! roguetomato
  • Score: 3

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