Impatient motorists are risking lives, says county farmer and politician

Councillor Rob Adams, former county council chairman

Councillor Rob Adams, former county council chairman

First published in News Worcester News: Tom Edwards by , Political Reporter

A FARMER in Worcestershire has criticised impatient drivers - saying he is being sent potty by the risks they are taking on county roads.

Councillor Rob Adams, a former chairman of Worcestershire County Council, spends his time away from politics tending to 500 acres of farmland at White Ladies Aston, in Spetchley near Worcester.

He often travels the area's roads in a huge tractor and says in recent weeks more and more motorists are trying to dangerously overtake, putting lives at risk.

He told your Worcester News the problem seems to have become more acute, saying the warmer weather might be making people more impatient.

"I feel like I've got to say something just to appeal to people to think about it more carefully," he said.

"I'd say 99 per cent of them are as good as gold but there's a few who don't seem to want to wait even a couple of minutes.

"On the road between The Nightingale and Berkeley Arms ( A44 Evesham Road, by White Ladies Aston) I was overtaken by three vehicles the other day - one of them as he went by had his hand on the horn all the way past me.

"I happened to look sideways and suddenly there were three, maybe even four cars on the wrong side of the road. It's too risky.

"We don't want to hold people up and do our best to go as quickly as we can, but there's a few that don't want to wait.

"On village roads, in a tractor you do tend to fill up the road but we go about it as quickly as we can.

"We don't want to be a nuisance, but for the sake of two minutes journey time I want to make a plea to people."

Cllr Adams, a Conservative, was chairman of the county council in 2012/13.

A farmer by trade, he now chairs the council's planning committee and also sits on the region's fire authority.

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11:37am Sat 28 Jun 14

Tobster says...

What is he actually complaining about?

I can understand that using your horn against an agricultural vehicle just because it happens to be slow is pretty unreasonable; but he hasn't been very specific about much else, where did these 'four vehicles on the wrong side of the road' take place? Because on a long visible stretch it could have been entirely safe, legal and appropriate.

I'll tell you what will improve things massively on country roads; if you're not going to overtake a vehicle at all, fall WELL BACK. Don't drive up it's arse, thus making it difficult and dangerous for anyone that does want to overtake, and usually creating a 40mph convoy!
What is he actually complaining about? I can understand that using your horn against an agricultural vehicle just because it happens to be slow is pretty unreasonable; but he hasn't been very specific about much else, where did these 'four vehicles on the wrong side of the road' take place? Because on a long visible stretch it could have been entirely safe, legal and appropriate. I'll tell you what will improve things massively on country roads; if you're not going to overtake a vehicle at all, fall WELL BACK. Don't drive up it's arse, thus making it difficult and dangerous for anyone that does want to overtake, and usually creating a 40mph convoy! Tobster
  • Score: 15

11:58am Sat 28 Jun 14

brooksider says...

The A44 is not a village road and has a speed limit of up to 60mph.
Slow drivers, and especially poorly maintained agricultural vehicles, are a danger on major roads.
The A44 is not a village road and has a speed limit of up to 60mph. Slow drivers, and especially poorly maintained agricultural vehicles, are a danger on major roads. brooksider
  • Score: -13

12:01pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jovialcommonsense says...

I don't think he is complaining. Just pointing out there a few narrow minded people whose self importance seems to outweigh others safety.
I don't think he is complaining. Just pointing out there a few narrow minded people whose self importance seems to outweigh others safety. jovialcommonsense
  • Score: 17

12:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Gillian1961 says...

It works the other way round as i travel the Hereford to Ledbury road a lot and half the tractor drivers thinking they own the road i joined the queue before tarrington and he would not pull over until the wind mill before the trumpet
It works the other way round as i travel the Hereford to Ledbury road a lot and half the tractor drivers thinking they own the road i joined the queue before tarrington and he would not pull over until the wind mill before the trumpet Gillian1961
  • Score: 1

12:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Gillian1961 says...

It works the other way round as i travel the Hereford to Ledbury road a lot and half the tractor drivers thinking they own the road i joined the queue before tarrington and he would not pull over until the wind mill before the trumpet
It works the other way round as i travel the Hereford to Ledbury road a lot and half the tractor drivers thinking they own the road i joined the queue before tarrington and he would not pull over until the wind mill before the trumpet Gillian1961
  • Score: 3

12:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

pudniw_gib says...

err if you are going to drive in the country expect to be held up by farm vehicles, horses and at the weekends bikes.
Drive around town get held up by; speed cameras, bikes, buses, traffic lights, etc etc..... so why don't these angry car drivers moan about that... oh yeah,, of course they do....
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If one of these idiotic drivers acted in town like they do in the country then they might get in trouble really quickly but in the country with higher speeds and hidden hazards the consequences of impatient driving are often very serious.
err if you are going to drive in the country expect to be held up by farm vehicles, horses and at the weekends bikes. Drive around town get held up by; speed cameras, bikes, buses, traffic lights, etc etc..... so why don't these angry car drivers moan about that... oh yeah,, of course they do.... . If one of these idiotic drivers acted in town like they do in the country then they might get in trouble really quickly but in the country with higher speeds and hidden hazards the consequences of impatient driving are often very serious. pudniw_gib
  • Score: 9

1:03pm Sat 28 Jun 14

gmoore1207 says...

i thought if they have a certain amount of vehicles behind them the are supposed to pull of road to let vehicles go i thought it was up to 8 vehicles
i thought if they have a certain amount of vehicles behind them the are supposed to pull of road to let vehicles go i thought it was up to 8 vehicles gmoore1207
  • Score: 8

1:23pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jabbadad says...

I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game.
In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there.
I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game. In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there. Jabbadad
  • Score: -4

2:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Perfman says...

Jabbadad wrote:
I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game.
In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there.
I think you'll find some do actually pay RFT

Vehicles used just for agriculture, horticulture and forestry
This includes tractors, agricultural engines and light agricultural vehicles used off-road. It also includes ‘limited use’ vehicles used for short journeys (not more than 1.5 kilometres) on the public road between land that’s occupied by the same person.
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game. In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find some do actually pay RFT Vehicles used just for agriculture, horticulture and forestry This includes tractors, agricultural engines and light agricultural vehicles used off-road. It also includes ‘limited use’ vehicles used for short journeys (not more than 1.5 kilometres) on the public road between land that’s occupied by the same person. Perfman
  • Score: 2

4:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Moltaire says...

What is risking lives in Worcestershire are poorly maintained roads and dangerous road schemes/designs thank to the highways department.
What is risking lives in Worcestershire are poorly maintained roads and dangerous road schemes/designs thank to the highways department. Moltaire
  • Score: -3

4:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

3thinker says...

jovialcommonsense wrote:
I don't think he is complaining. Just pointing out there a few narrow minded people whose self importance seems to outweigh others safety.
I agree.

Unfortunately all too often there is a knee jerk reaction and tendency to blame other types of road users.

The reality is that if all road users respected the law and used the highway more considerately then the roads would be safer and there would be fewer congestion problems.
[quote][p][bold]jovialcommonsense[/bold] wrote: I don't think he is complaining. Just pointing out there a few narrow minded people whose self importance seems to outweigh others safety.[/p][/quote]I agree. Unfortunately all too often there is a knee jerk reaction and tendency to blame other types of road users. The reality is that if all road users respected the law and used the highway more considerately then the roads would be safer and there would be fewer congestion problems. 3thinker
  • Score: 8

7:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ACBLive says...

The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement, county councillors using alleged speeding motorists for the purpose of winning votes at election time, and further it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines. I resent all this restriction on my civil liberty - can we not find a different way to top up the pensions of retired traffic cops?!
The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement, county councillors using alleged speeding motorists for the purpose of winning votes at election time, and further it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines. I resent all this restriction on my civil liberty - can we not find a different way to top up the pensions of retired traffic cops?! ACBLive
  • Score: 1

8:55pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Roger5 says...

When I saw the headline I thought he was going to talk about the idiots turning left instead of using the slip road at the Whittington roundabout and cutting in at the Norton roundabout!
When I saw the headline I thought he was going to talk about the idiots turning left instead of using the slip road at the Whittington roundabout and cutting in at the Norton roundabout! Roger5
  • Score: -1

5:28am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rita Jelfs says...

Jabbadad says large tractors don't pay RFT. Perlman says they do. But if RFT is rolled into consolidated tax revenue, which includes personal income tax and VFT, then doesn't that mean that tractor drivers are paying for the use and development of roads too? So its not an US and THEM situation, is it?
Jabbadad says large tractors don't pay RFT. Perlman says they do. But if RFT is rolled into consolidated tax revenue, which includes personal income tax and VFT, then doesn't that mean that tractor drivers are paying for the use and development of roads too? So its not an US and THEM situation, is it? Rita Jelfs
  • Score: -1

5:35pm Sun 29 Jun 14

DarrenM says...

Perhaps if these farmers obeyed rule 169 of the highway code

"Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass"

There wouldn't be an issue?
Perhaps if these farmers obeyed rule 169 of the highway code "Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass" There wouldn't be an issue? DarrenM
  • Score: 11

5:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

DarrenM says...

As for the excise argument, most of these agricultural vehicles are all running on Red Diesel, perhaps Worst Farcia could have a "Multi-agency" approach with HMCE and start stopping a few to ensure they are using the "agricultural" exemption correctly?
As for the excise argument, most of these agricultural vehicles are all running on Red Diesel, perhaps Worst Farcia could have a "Multi-agency" approach with HMCE and start stopping a few to ensure they are using the "agricultural" exemption correctly? DarrenM
  • Score: 3

12:43am Mon 30 Jun 14

Jabbadad says...

Don't think you should go there Rita, the farming industry although vital to us all is the most subsidised industry across the Uk and in Europe seen as a license to print money.
While here in the Uk some farmers are paid not to plant their land, POOR FARMERS EH? And they still hold up the traffic.
Don't think you should go there Rita, the farming industry although vital to us all is the most subsidised industry across the Uk and in Europe seen as a license to print money. While here in the Uk some farmers are paid not to plant their land, POOR FARMERS EH? And they still hold up the traffic. Jabbadad
  • Score: 0

8:51am Mon 30 Jun 14

Pomygranit says...

Jabbadad wrote:
I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game.
In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there.
You do not pay road Fund Tax either, the road fund was wound up in 1955.

Would have thought you would have been better informed.
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: I have found that those who charge around the country lanes are often country folk themselves, who from frequent use know the lanes, and it is them who toot those who are driving well within their comfort Zone. And yes to the comments about the Hereford Road, I have to travel that way once a month to meetings and I need to start out 30 minutes early or so to allow for the Huge tractors, (which do NOT PAY ROAD FUND TAX) who collect quite long convoys as if it's a game. In America when you are not using their Freeways (Motorways) if there are more than Four (I think ) Vehicles behind you By law you have to pull over and let them pass. Quite often they seem civilised over there.[/p][/quote]You do not pay road Fund Tax either, the road fund was wound up in 1955. Would have thought you would have been better informed. Pomygranit
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Mon 30 Jun 14

ACBLive says...

Is there an election coming?!
Is there an election coming?! ACBLive
  • Score: 4

3:15pm Tue 1 Jul 14

thesquirrel says...

I wonder what time of day Cllr Adams is out in his tractor. Would it be between 7am to 8.30am when people are desperately trying to get to work?
I wonder what time of day Cllr Adams is out in his tractor. Would it be between 7am to 8.30am when people are desperately trying to get to work? thesquirrel
  • Score: 11

4:17pm Tue 1 Jul 14

The Villan says...

"Slow down"....... It's the country!

Classic line from Lee Evans concert, as he watches the back of the farmers head bobbing up and down in his carrot cruncher.
"Slow down"....... It's the country! Classic line from Lee Evans concert, as he watches the back of the farmers head bobbing up and down in his carrot cruncher. The Villan
  • Score: -2

11:07pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Daytona2 says...

Some drivers hate it when they can't control other motorists, methinks Adams is one of them.

It's an offence of careless or inconsiderate driving to hold up a long queue of traffic. Motorists can call 999 to report offenders.
Some drivers hate it when they can't control other motorists, methinks Adams is one of them. It's an offence of careless or inconsiderate driving to hold up a long queue of traffic. Motorists can call 999 to report offenders. Daytona2
  • Score: 1

2:51am Wed 2 Jul 14

chrism says...

Moltaire wrote:
What is risking lives in Worcestershire are poorly maintained roads and dangerous road schemes/designs thank to the highways department.
It's not the roads which collide with other road users, trees etc. It's not the roads which lose control. Yes the roads could be better (don't get me started), but if drivers used proper care and attention and drove at an appropriate speed for the conditions (which is totally different to the speed limit - could be higher, could be lower) there would be a lot less injuries and deaths on our roads.

There does seem to be a real tendency amongst some motorists to blame other people and things for "forcing" them to drive dangerously.
[quote][p][bold]Moltaire[/bold] wrote: What is risking lives in Worcestershire are poorly maintained roads and dangerous road schemes/designs thank to the highways department.[/p][/quote]It's not the roads which collide with other road users, trees etc. It's not the roads which lose control. Yes the roads could be better (don't get me started), but if drivers used proper care and attention and drove at an appropriate speed for the conditions (which is totally different to the speed limit - could be higher, could be lower) there would be a lot less injuries and deaths on our roads. There does seem to be a real tendency amongst some motorists to blame other people and things for "forcing" them to drive dangerously. chrism
  • Score: 4

8:01am Wed 2 Jul 14

Reynard11 says...

Plus the dangerously overload horseboxes crawling around our road network. In most cases these do not require any specialist sort of training or license to operate. Driven by people without relevant experience.
The chassis used on some of these vehicles are probably only rated to carry the weight of the box built on the back. Then load in one or two heavy horses and drive around at 20-30mph holding great lines of traffic. I can see why some get frustrated and take a risk!
Do they ever get pulled and weight checked?

When driving at a speed far bellow the road and conditions whether in a car, truck, van etc. Please once in a while feel free to pull over and let everyone pass. Not slow down further!
These drivers are also the ones traveling a 40mph wherever they go. Thy hit a 30mph village and bolt through at guess what….40mph. Whilst you slow down to 30 and watch them disappear into the distance only to catch up again once clear of the speed restriction.

Tractors I do have sympathy with as on the whole they do pull over when conditions allow.

Rant over
Plus the dangerously overload horseboxes crawling around our road network. In most cases these do not require any specialist sort of training or license to operate. Driven by people without relevant experience. The chassis used on some of these vehicles are probably only rated to carry the weight of the box built on the back. Then load in one or two heavy horses and drive around at 20-30mph holding great lines of traffic. I can see why some get frustrated and take a risk! Do they ever get pulled and weight checked? When driving at a speed far bellow the road and conditions whether in a car, truck, van etc. Please once in a while feel free to pull over and let everyone pass. Not slow down further! These drivers are also the ones traveling a 40mph wherever they go. Thy hit a 30mph village and bolt through at guess what….40mph. Whilst you slow down to 30 and watch them disappear into the distance only to catch up again once clear of the speed restriction. Tractors I do have sympathy with as on the whole they do pull over when conditions allow. Rant over Reynard11
  • Score: 8

10:20am Fri 4 Jul 14

I'm_not_bitter says...

ACBLive wrote:
The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement, county councillors using alleged speeding motorists for the purpose of winning votes at election time, and further it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines. I resent all this restriction on my civil liberty - can we not find a different way to top up the pensions of retired traffic cops?!
"The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement" - Well if they are getting caught, it's not an appearance of speeding, is it?
"it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines" - so your business model is based on breaking the law? As a general rule, your customers won't appreciate your business wiping out their granny or kids while driving illegally.
You won't get caught for speeding if you don't speed! Unless another of the chips on your shoulder is the authorities picking victims and making up speeding charges? I wonder, do you bother with insurance, or does that impinge on the profits?
[quote][p][bold]ACBLive[/bold] wrote: The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement, county councillors using alleged speeding motorists for the purpose of winning votes at election time, and further it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines. I resent all this restriction on my civil liberty - can we not find a different way to top up the pensions of retired traffic cops?![/p][/quote]"The reason why there's an appearance of speeding traffic is because there's so much over enforcement" - Well if they are getting caught, it's not an appearance of speeding, is it? "it's becoming harder to run any business with so much enforcement and fines" - so your business model is based on breaking the law? As a general rule, your customers won't appreciate your business wiping out their granny or kids while driving illegally. You won't get caught for speeding if you don't speed! Unless another of the chips on your shoulder is the authorities picking victims and making up speeding charges? I wonder, do you bother with insurance, or does that impinge on the profits? I'm_not_bitter
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DarrenM says...

Daytona2 wrote:
Some drivers hate it when they can't control other motorists, methinks Adams is one of them.

It's an offence of careless or inconsiderate driving to hold up a long queue of traffic. Motorists can call 999 to report offenders.
Is the worst piece of advice ever. Do you really think that is an appropriate use of the 999 system?
[quote][p][bold]Daytona2[/bold] wrote: Some drivers hate it when they can't control other motorists, methinks Adams is one of them. It's an offence of careless or inconsiderate driving to hold up a long queue of traffic. Motorists can call 999 to report offenders.[/p][/quote]Is the worst piece of advice ever. Do you really think that is an appropriate use of the 999 system? DarrenM
  • Score: 0

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