Plans for new £150m Worcester shopping complex to be submitted in October

Plans for new £150m Worcester shopping complex to be submitted in October

Plans for new £150m Worcester shopping complex to be submitted in October

First published in News Worcester News: Tom Edwards Exclusive by , Political Reporter

PLANS for a £150 million shopping centre in Worcester are set to be handed to council chiefs in October - paving the way for a radical transformation in the city's retail offer.

Your Worcester News can reveal a raft of new developments over proposals for a 'mini Cribbs Causeway' on acres of green fields off Newtown Road, including:

- The development will span 240,000 sq ft and will come with at least 12 large retail units

- Interest among big name shops is so high, more than half the units are already believed to be full

- Although the shops will not confirm it, we understand both John Lewis and Next are lining up specialised 'home and garden' stores for the site

- Land Securities, the country's biggest developer, wants to submit the planning application in October and is preparing a public consultation in September to lay the groundwork for it

As your Worcester News first revealed in April, the land in question is known as Worcester Woods, which the city council has wanted to see developed since the 1990s.

There are 11 hectares of fields owned by Spetchley Estates, and back in 2005 outline planning permission was granted for a business park on the land but it never came off after the recession hit.

Land Securities' grand plans are expected to come at a caveat that the shops on the site do not compete with the city centre.

But the developer says it wants to make Worcester a "more attractive regional destination" and believes by carefully selecting the stores it should secure planning permission.

Councillor Simon Geraghty, city council leader, said: "I'd welcome investment in the city as long as it brings more quality and adds to what Worcester has.

"A John Lewis would be great, it would be excellent for Worcester and give us something we don't currently have.

"But we must ensure the city centre is still at the heart of our retail offer - 'city centre' first is our principle so it must be capable of complimenting that."

The development will come with around 1,100 parking spaces, with the largest anchor store set to span 90,000 sq ft.

A spokesman for Land Securities said: "We will be submitting a planning application in the near future, likely to be around October time for a 240,000 sq ft out-of-town shopping centre which is currently 55 per cent in solicitors’ hands."

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12:11pm Tue 12 Aug 14

3thinker says...

Can't wait.

Yet more traffic to clog up the City's roads.
Can't wait. Yet more traffic to clog up the City's roads. 3thinker
  • Score: 9

1:13pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Andy_R says...

Yet another move towards making Worcester the empty shop unit capital of the world.
Yet another move towards making Worcester the empty shop unit capital of the world. Andy_R
  • Score: 13

1:43pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Hwicce says...

Can't say I'm bothered by John Lewis but it would be nice to have a few decent names coming in.

As for the High Street in Worcester - name me one store vacant or occupied with 90,000 square feet and over a thousand car parking spaces that they could move into instead?
Can't say I'm bothered by John Lewis but it would be nice to have a few decent names coming in. As for the High Street in Worcester - name me one store vacant or occupied with 90,000 square feet and over a thousand car parking spaces that they could move into instead? Hwicce
  • Score: 5

1:45pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Doogie 46 says...

Well seeing as there`s a John Lewis store as a large part of the New St station redevelopment in Birmingham I would say that the chances of another one here are probably less than zero.
Well seeing as there`s a John Lewis store as a large part of the New St station redevelopment in Birmingham I would say that the chances of another one here are probably less than zero. Doogie 46
  • Score: 1

2:08pm Tue 12 Aug 14

3thinker says...

Doogie 46 wrote:
Well seeing as there`s a John Lewis store as a large part of the New St station redevelopment in Birmingham I would say that the chances of another one here are probably less than zero.
There's also a reasonable sized John Lewis element in the planned new Waitrose store at the top of London Road.
[quote][p][bold]Doogie 46[/bold] wrote: Well seeing as there`s a John Lewis store as a large part of the New St station redevelopment in Birmingham I would say that the chances of another one here are probably less than zero.[/p][/quote]There's also a reasonable sized John Lewis element in the planned new Waitrose store at the top of London Road. 3thinker
  • Score: 4

2:58pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Samboy says...

What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.
What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units. Samboy
  • Score: 13

3:18pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Hwicce says...

Samboy wrote:
What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.
They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road.

A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street.

The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre.
[quote][p][bold]Samboy[/bold] wrote: What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.[/p][/quote]They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road. A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street. The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre. Hwicce
  • Score: 11

3:28pm Tue 12 Aug 14

3thinker says...

Hwicce wrote:
Samboy wrote:
What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.
They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road.

A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street.

The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre.
"Why do they call it rush hour when nothing moves?"

Robin Williams RIP
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samboy[/bold] wrote: What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.[/p][/quote]They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road. A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street. The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre.[/p][/quote]"Why do they call it rush hour when nothing moves?" Robin Williams RIP 3thinker
  • Score: 3

3:58pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Perfman says...

Interest is "so high, more than half are already full" - so high, 12 units with a 50% take up - that's flying out the door in anyones book - NOT......
Interest is "so high, more than half are already full" - so high, 12 units with a 50% take up - that's flying out the door in anyones book - NOT...... Perfman
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Tue 12 Aug 14

thompson9100 says...

Perfman wrote:
Interest is "so high, more than half are already full" - so high, 12 units with a 50% take up - that's flying out the door in anyones book - NOT......
Compared to St Martins Quarter it certainly is. How long has that been open and how empty is it? They've not even started on the next phase because it's so empty, which is why the permanently closing bed shop is still open!
[quote][p][bold]Perfman[/bold] wrote: Interest is "so high, more than half are already full" - so high, 12 units with a 50% take up - that's flying out the door in anyones book - NOT......[/p][/quote]Compared to St Martins Quarter it certainly is. How long has that been open and how empty is it? They've not even started on the next phase because it's so empty, which is why the permanently closing bed shop is still open! thompson9100
  • Score: 21

5:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

thompson9100 says...

With the development at Sheriff Street still to get under way and competing with St Martins, Cathedral Plaza and now Worcester Woods for stores, are we heading for one massive white elephant, resulting in loads of empty units?
With the development at Sheriff Street still to get under way and competing with St Martins, Cathedral Plaza and now Worcester Woods for stores, are we heading for one massive white elephant, resulting in loads of empty units? thompson9100
  • Score: 11

5:45pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Pauline B Price says...

I live just off top of Newtown Road, no objection to the new shopping mall but feel sorry for the shops in Worcester City. Hope the shops and cafes can keep going in town as going for a coffee/tea and toasted teacake just 'up the road' will not be the same as meeting friends in town for refreshments.
I live just off top of Newtown Road, no objection to the new shopping mall but feel sorry for the shops in Worcester City. Hope the shops and cafes can keep going in town as going for a coffee/tea and toasted teacake just 'up the road' will not be the same as meeting friends in town for refreshments. Pauline B Price
  • Score: 7

6:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

echawkins says...

There soon won't be any green fields anywhere near Worcester if they keep building. Is it really needed????
There soon won't be any green fields anywhere near Worcester if they keep building. Is it really needed???? echawkins
  • Score: 21

7:58pm Tue 12 Aug 14

WorcsBornandBred says...

I love shopping I does.
I love shopping I does. WorcsBornandBred
  • Score: -8

10:57pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Dennisthelab says...

Absolute joke! Why do they say that the city centre is still the focus when half of it is empty or almost derelict? Houses are being built on green field sites and now retail parks. Not to mention the absolute disaster of putting in a dual carriageway in St. Peter's leading to a single lane bridge. I've lived in Worcester all of my life and this council gets no better and has much to answer for in destroying a beautiful city
Absolute joke! Why do they say that the city centre is still the focus when half of it is empty or almost derelict? Houses are being built on green field sites and now retail parks. Not to mention the absolute disaster of putting in a dual carriageway in St. Peter's leading to a single lane bridge. I've lived in Worcester all of my life and this council gets no better and has much to answer for in destroying a beautiful city Dennisthelab
  • Score: 15

11:26pm Tue 12 Aug 14

3thinker says...

Dennisthelab wrote:
Absolute joke! Why do they say that the city centre is still the focus when half of it is empty or almost derelict? Houses are being built on green field sites and now retail parks. Not to mention the absolute disaster of putting in a dual carriageway in St. Peter's leading to a single lane bridge. I've lived in Worcester all of my life and this council gets no better and has much to answer for in destroying a beautiful city
Its the County Council that's building the road. They are the Highway Authority. Interestingly its Cllr Geraghty that's been given the responsibility with his County 'hat on' for the project. With his other 'hat (and councillor expenses) on' he also happens to be the Leader of Worcester City Council. No wonder local lectors are confused about what the City and County Council is responsible for. Us tax payers are effectively paying for Cllr Geraghty twice. Not exactly what you's expect form a low tax Conservative County and City administration. As I've said before there is a very strong case for saving £millions in tax payers money each and every year by merging the City, District and County Councils to form a Unitary Council for Worcestershire. Why on earth are we having to pay unnecessary costs in paying for 7 Chief Executives and senior management teams and hundreds of councillors when most of the rest of the UK population get by with just one Council to manage and deliver their public services. Its certainly not how the private sector would operate.
[quote][p][bold]Dennisthelab[/bold] wrote: Absolute joke! Why do they say that the city centre is still the focus when half of it is empty or almost derelict? Houses are being built on green field sites and now retail parks. Not to mention the absolute disaster of putting in a dual carriageway in St. Peter's leading to a single lane bridge. I've lived in Worcester all of my life and this council gets no better and has much to answer for in destroying a beautiful city[/p][/quote]Its the County Council that's building the road. They are the Highway Authority. Interestingly its Cllr Geraghty that's been given the responsibility with his County 'hat on' for the project. With his other 'hat (and councillor expenses) on' he also happens to be the Leader of Worcester City Council. No wonder local lectors are confused about what the City and County Council is responsible for. Us tax payers are effectively paying for Cllr Geraghty twice. Not exactly what you's expect form a low tax Conservative County and City administration. As I've said before there is a very strong case for saving £millions in tax payers money each and every year by merging the City, District and County Councils to form a Unitary Council for Worcestershire. Why on earth are we having to pay unnecessary costs in paying for 7 Chief Executives and senior management teams and hundreds of councillors when most of the rest of the UK population get by with just one Council to manage and deliver their public services. Its certainly not how the private sector would operate. 3thinker
  • Score: 10

7:11am Wed 13 Aug 14

worcestersfinest says...

Surely trinity house would be a better place to put a John Lewis?
Surely trinity house would be a better place to put a John Lewis? worcestersfinest
  • Score: 4

9:35am Wed 13 Aug 14

mijas4@live.com says...

Worcester will never be able to compete with the likes of Birmingham, Touchwood or Cribbs Causeway (and why should it). Its retail offer is too disjointed and the stores are always smaller and second rate versions.

However, it has a lot of things these places don't have that should make it much more of a destination (but these are in the Center). Building a shopping park on the outskirts, whilst creating employment won't bring money into the local economy.

The council are always deluded, they wanted higher class shops in Lowesmoore but couldn't make that happen. How are they really going to ensure that they protect the high street, it is all naivety and words. They believe the promises of the developers who never deliver.

They need to develop a much clearer and ambitious plan to use the assets that Worcester has, be brave and encourage diversity in the retail offer with more independents, be brave and take the difficult decisions on transport , make Worcester a more interesting place to come and visit.

But I guess it is easier to just build some big boxes in a field on the edge of the City.
Worcester will never be able to compete with the likes of Birmingham, Touchwood or Cribbs Causeway (and why should it). Its retail offer is too disjointed and the stores are always smaller and second rate versions. However, it has a lot of things these places don't have that should make it much more of a destination (but these are in the Center). Building a shopping park on the outskirts, whilst creating employment won't bring money into the local economy. The council are always deluded, they wanted higher class shops in Lowesmoore but couldn't make that happen. How are they really going to ensure that they protect the high street, it is all naivety and words. They believe the promises of the developers who never deliver. They need to develop a much clearer and ambitious plan to use the assets that Worcester has, be brave and encourage diversity in the retail offer with more independents, be brave and take the difficult decisions on transport , make Worcester a more interesting place to come and visit. But I guess it is easier to just build some big boxes in a field on the edge of the City. mijas4@live.com
  • Score: 10

9:50am Wed 13 Aug 14

drowningnotwaving says...

Another cheesy named developement like Cathedral Plaza, St Martins quarter making the City a TOWIE city.

Wonder what will happen with the parking when hospital staff and patients start to use it?
Another cheesy named developement like Cathedral Plaza, St Martins quarter making the City a TOWIE city. Wonder what will happen with the parking when hospital staff and patients start to use it? drowningnotwaving
  • Score: -2

10:53am Wed 13 Aug 14

green49 says...

It would be better to build houses, you cant live in shops and despite what the councils say about they are desperate for housing its just *******
Worcesster has enough shops etc, there are so many empty too, i sold off two as this council decided they wanted Tesco express instead of local bisness, i employed my staff elsewhere otherwise they would have been out of a job.

Geraghty and co in charge,,, god help us. still if they do this project the shop doorways will give shelter to those his CONservatives have put back on the streets.
It would be better to build houses, you cant live in shops and despite what the councils say about they are desperate for housing its just ******* Worcesster has enough shops etc, there are so many empty too, i sold off two as this council decided they wanted Tesco express instead of local bisness, i employed my staff elsewhere otherwise they would have been out of a job. Geraghty and co in charge,,, god help us. still if they do this project the shop doorways will give shelter to those his CONservatives have put back on the streets. green49
  • Score: 2

11:55am Wed 13 Aug 14

julie allsopp says...

Please, no more shops..the city centre is bad enough now with empty shops. As for the name 'cathedral plaza' that puts me off straight away. What was wrong with 'Lych gate' as it was....The FIRST thing that should be sorted out is the road from Powick island to the motorway junction. We all know that, why don't those 'at the top' know this.
Please, no more shops..the city centre is bad enough now with empty shops. As for the name 'cathedral plaza' that puts me off straight away. What was wrong with 'Lych gate' as it was....The FIRST thing that should be sorted out is the road from Powick island to the motorway junction. We all know that, why don't those 'at the top' know this. julie allsopp
  • Score: 3

1:00pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Marant says...

This will destroy the centre - look at Haverford West. A very similar place and now full of empty shops and cafes. They built an out of town shopping park which sucked all the shops out of town, intending to replace it with a 'café culture' in town (sound familiar?). But no one coming to the shops meant no customers for the cafes and it all fell apart. The council there now recognise this and are trying to rectify it with an in town cinema complex, but unfortunately it's likely to be too little too late.
This will destroy the centre - look at Haverford West. A very similar place and now full of empty shops and cafes. They built an out of town shopping park which sucked all the shops out of town, intending to replace it with a 'café culture' in town (sound familiar?). But no one coming to the shops meant no customers for the cafes and it all fell apart. The council there now recognise this and are trying to rectify it with an in town cinema complex, but unfortunately it's likely to be too little too late. Marant
  • Score: 5

1:03pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Bufton Tufton says...

Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know?
Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know? Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Wed 13 Aug 14

didley123 says...

When have the idiotic numpties of Worcester City Council ever made a right decision or ever cared for the city. All they ever do is destroy our precious heritage with ugly, poorly thought out developments.. Just look at the criminal destruction of parts of New Road with the ugly and mostly empty Cathedral Plaza (site of the old Giffard Hotel) People should have gone to prison for creating that monstrosity! All we will have left in the City will be charity shops.. But do they care, I am sure there are plenty of backhanders flying around to sweeten the planning application. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SHOPPING PLAZAS!!!! Most of the ones in Wardon have gone bancrupt... Leave the City alone..
When have the idiotic numpties of Worcester City Council ever made a right decision or ever cared for the city. All they ever do is destroy our precious heritage with ugly, poorly thought out developments.. Just look at the criminal destruction of parts of New Road with the ugly and mostly empty Cathedral Plaza (site of the old Giffard Hotel) People should have gone to prison for creating that monstrosity! All we will have left in the City will be charity shops.. But do they care, I am sure there are plenty of backhanders flying around to sweeten the planning application. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SHOPPING PLAZAS!!!! Most of the ones in Wardon have gone bancrupt... Leave the City alone.. didley123
  • Score: 5

6:28pm Wed 13 Aug 14

its all spin says...

Bufton Tufton wrote:
Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know?
Would it not have been easier for you to open a new tab on your computer and google Cribb's Causeway instead of sending your comment?
[quote][p][bold]Bufton Tufton[/bold] wrote: Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know?[/p][/quote]Would it not have been easier for you to open a new tab on your computer and google Cribb's Causeway instead of sending your comment? its all spin
  • Score: 7

7:23am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bufton Tufton says...

Hwicce wrote:
Samboy wrote:
What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.
They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road.

A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street.

The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre.
On a closely related subject. What does the Queen of Shops woman say in her report on reviving the high st? Provide free parking. What do the council wahlas ( who are only good at spending other peoples money ) at Leominster do shortly after the report is published? Slap car parking charges on the free car park near the town centre . IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samboy[/bold] wrote: What, another one? The cathedral Plaza which is in the CENTRE apparently needs 7 restaurants to survive so how are they going to fill all these retail units.[/p][/quote]They'll fill them because they will have convenient free parking easily accessible off the ring road. A clue there for the City Council if they are really bothered about improving the high street. The reason no one wanted Trinity House even though it was 62,000 sq feet is that the Cornmarket car park was only 85 spaces and stuck in the middle of Worcester's traffic jam ridden centre.[/p][/quote]On a closely related subject. What does the Queen of Shops woman say in her report on reviving the high st? Provide free parking. What do the council wahlas ( who are only good at spending other peoples money ) at Leominster do shortly after the report is published? Slap car parking charges on the free car park near the town centre . IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 3

7:29am Thu 14 Aug 14

Bufton Tufton says...

its all spin wrote:
Bufton Tufton wrote:
Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know?
Would it not have been easier for you to open a new tab on your computer and google Cribb's Causeway instead of sending your comment?
If I was reading this in the print version and didn't have a smart phone, no. In fact I did "Bing" it but is smacks of lazy journalism to me. All the writer had to do was write Cribs Causeway in Bristol; just two more words. Not being a native of Worcester I initially thought it must be somewhere around and about the city I had not heard of.
[quote][p][bold]its all spin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bufton Tufton[/bold] wrote: Where in Cribs Causeway? I am not familiar with the name and location of shopping centres in provincial cities. Why assume we readers know?[/p][/quote]Would it not have been easier for you to open a new tab on your computer and google Cribb's Causeway instead of sending your comment?[/p][/quote]If I was reading this in the print version and didn't have a smart phone, no. In fact I did "Bing" it but is smacks of lazy journalism to me. All the writer had to do was write Cribs Causeway in Bristol; just two more words. Not being a native of Worcester I initially thought it must be somewhere around and about the city I had not heard of. Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 3

12:30pm Thu 14 Aug 14

boris001 says...

Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you.. boris001
  • Score: -3

4:47pm Thu 14 Aug 14

I'm_not_bitter says...

boris001 wrote:
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.
[quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you..[/p][/quote]No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online. I'm_not_bitter
  • Score: 3

7:42pm Thu 14 Aug 14

boris001 says...

I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.
So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....
[quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you..[/p][/quote]No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.[/p][/quote]So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods.... boris001
  • Score: -2

9:01pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Bodger&Badger says...

always entertaining how an article on new developments in which companies wish to open up in this city to both offer jobs and to increase the retail offer in worcester, are always so negative.

this location won't compete with the city centre, but in all likelihood bring people to Worcester, it's a easy hop from the Motorway for people coming in from Evesham/Droitwich and Bromsgrove as an alternative to Birmingham.

Still amazed by the comments raised on needing a plan. You may want to review the South Worcestershire Development Plan, its the plan for the next 17 years currently going through inquiry. its the same one that highlights a need for new housing in the area. this plan also includes a transport strategy for worcester, you'll be amazed when you read it! it states the long term need and plan for dualling the bridge!
always entertaining how an article on new developments in which companies wish to open up in this city to both offer jobs and to increase the retail offer in worcester, are always so negative. this location won't compete with the city centre, but in all likelihood bring people to Worcester, it's a easy hop from the Motorway for people coming in from Evesham/Droitwich and Bromsgrove as an alternative to Birmingham. Still amazed by the comments raised on needing a plan. You may want to review the South Worcestershire Development Plan, its the plan for the next 17 years currently going through inquiry. its the same one that highlights a need for new housing in the area. this plan also includes a transport strategy for worcester, you'll be amazed when you read it! it states the long term need and plan for dualling the bridge! Bodger&Badger
  • Score: 1

9:38pm Thu 14 Aug 14

markskoda says...

How exotic and exciting the St. Martin's Quarter looks. A real city centre cafe culture development with it's B+M, 99p Shop, large supermarket and even a Costa Coffee. How good I will feel about myself as I observe the teeming street scene while sipping my Costa Identicoffee, imagining myself to be somewhere else. I wish!
How exotic and exciting the St. Martin's Quarter looks. A real city centre cafe culture development with it's B+M, 99p Shop, large supermarket and even a Costa Coffee. How good I will feel about myself as I observe the teeming street scene while sipping my Costa Identicoffee, imagining myself to be somewhere else. I wish! markskoda
  • Score: 2

11:31pm Thu 14 Aug 14

I'm_not_bitter says...

boris001 wrote:
I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.
So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....
I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they?
It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking.
[quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you..[/p][/quote]No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.[/p][/quote]So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....[/p][/quote]I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they? It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking. I'm_not_bitter
  • Score: 2

5:53pm Fri 15 Aug 14

SgtAl says...

I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.
So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....
I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they?
It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking.
"It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking."

But he/she is not bitter.
[quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you..[/p][/quote]No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.[/p][/quote]So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....[/p][/quote]I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they? It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking.[/p][/quote]"It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking." But he/she is not bitter. SgtAl
  • Score: 0

6:34pm Fri 15 Aug 14

mr_wilson15 says...

Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?
Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers? mr_wilson15
  • Score: 3

11:26pm Fri 15 Aug 14

mijas4@live.com says...

Bodger&Badger wrote:
always entertaining how an article on new developments in which companies wish to open up in this city to both offer jobs and to increase the retail offer in worcester, are always so negative.

this location won't compete with the city centre, but in all likelihood bring people to Worcester, it's a easy hop from the Motorway for people coming in from Evesham/Droitwich and Bromsgrove as an alternative to Birmingham.

Still amazed by the comments raised on needing a plan. You may want to review the South Worcestershire Development Plan, its the plan for the next 17 years currently going through inquiry. its the same one that highlights a need for new housing in the area. this plan also includes a transport strategy for worcester, you'll be amazed when you read it! it states the long term need and plan for dualling the bridge!
I have read the plan that you talk about and it is hardly visionary and I don't see how this development really fits in to it.

Dragging a few people in from the motorway will not develop Worcester and it is just another speculative development. believe all the hype but the only people that really benefit are the developers.

I agree that it will create jobs but these will be at minimum wage and add little to the local economy. Lets have some real vision when it comes to economic development and not take the sugar rush of easy retail developments.
[quote][p][bold]Bodger&Badger[/bold] wrote: always entertaining how an article on new developments in which companies wish to open up in this city to both offer jobs and to increase the retail offer in worcester, are always so negative. this location won't compete with the city centre, but in all likelihood bring people to Worcester, it's a easy hop from the Motorway for people coming in from Evesham/Droitwich and Bromsgrove as an alternative to Birmingham. Still amazed by the comments raised on needing a plan. You may want to review the South Worcestershire Development Plan, its the plan for the next 17 years currently going through inquiry. its the same one that highlights a need for new housing in the area. this plan also includes a transport strategy for worcester, you'll be amazed when you read it! it states the long term need and plan for dualling the bridge![/p][/quote]I have read the plan that you talk about and it is hardly visionary and I don't see how this development really fits in to it. Dragging a few people in from the motorway will not develop Worcester and it is just another speculative development. believe all the hype but the only people that really benefit are the developers. I agree that it will create jobs but these will be at minimum wage and add little to the local economy. Lets have some real vision when it comes to economic development and not take the sugar rush of easy retail developments. mijas4@live.com
  • Score: 4

8:54pm Sun 17 Aug 14

mikeworcs says...

Always the best option..... concrete over more green space to please the developer-landowners (Tesco Express, anyone?), rather than redevelop brownfield sites to reuse existing wasted space, and at the same time, provide retail units that really won't benefit the people of Worcester anywhere near half as much as they benefit the tax-collectors of Worcester.
Always the best option..... concrete over more green space to please the developer-landowners (Tesco Express, anyone?), rather than redevelop brownfield sites to reuse existing wasted space, and at the same time, provide retail units that really won't benefit the people of Worcester anywhere near half as much as they benefit the tax-collectors of Worcester. mikeworcs
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hwicce says...

mr_wilson15 wrote:
Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?
B&Q
Matalan
Cotswold Outdoors
GoOutdoors
Lakeland
Toys R Us
The Range
Morrisons
Decathlon

That would be a good start.
[quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?[/p][/quote]B&Q Matalan Cotswold Outdoors GoOutdoors Lakeland Toys R Us The Range Morrisons Decathlon That would be a good start. Hwicce
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Mon 18 Aug 14

I'm_not_bitter says...

SgtAl wrote:
I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
I'm_not_bitter wrote:
boris001 wrote:
Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's
You people will still go shopping in them won't you..
No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.
So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....
I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they?
It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking.
"It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking."

But he/she is not bitter.
I'm bitter that progress is measured by how much we spend and how much "development" there is. I'd rather keep the Local Nature Reserve that will be tarmacced over for this "development", thanks!
[quote][p][bold]SgtAl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boris001[/bold] wrote: Everyone moaning about new shopping centre's You people will still go shopping in them won't you..[/p][/quote]No, like I don't shop in the city centre. Or anywhere else physical very often. I don't queue in the traffic to pay pounds for parking, so I don't pay pounds for a coffee, etc. etc. I mainly shop online.[/p][/quote]So it's people like you who close shops down for not supporting local and commercial businesses, Leaving empty shells that were once people's livelyhoods....[/p][/quote]I'm afraid I just don't subscribe to the shopping as a leisure occupation. I don't close down anyone, but if they don't provide anything I want I don't use them. It's usually quicker, easier and cheaper for me to buy online, so I do. These "local" businesses are there to make money out of their customers, aren't they? It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking.[/p][/quote]"It's people like you who try to keep hopelessly outdated ways of doing business alive just because they are traditional, and add BILLIONS of road miles a year with all the associated problems of congestion, pollution, parking." But he/she is not bitter.[/p][/quote]I'm bitter that progress is measured by how much we spend and how much "development" there is. I'd rather keep the Local Nature Reserve that will be tarmacced over for this "development", thanks! I'm_not_bitter
  • Score: 1

4:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

I'm_not_bitter says...

Hwicce wrote:
mr_wilson15 wrote:
Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?
B&Q
Matalan
Cotswold Outdoors
GoOutdoors
Lakeland
Toys R Us
The Range
Morrisons
Decathlon

That would be a good start.
When did it become compulsory to have one of each major retailer within the city? Given that most people would drive to this proposed development and most of that list are available within 15 miles do we need them even closer?
And if B&Q, for instance, open a bright shiny new store in Worcester, who's to say they will keep their not shiny store in Malvern open? Aren't we just shuffling jobs around to some extent?
[quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?[/p][/quote]B&Q Matalan Cotswold Outdoors GoOutdoors Lakeland Toys R Us The Range Morrisons Decathlon That would be a good start.[/p][/quote]When did it become compulsory to have one of each major retailer within the city? Given that most people would drive to this proposed development and most of that list are available within 15 miles do we need them even closer? And if B&Q, for instance, open a bright shiny new store in Worcester, who's to say they will keep their not shiny store in Malvern open? Aren't we just shuffling jobs around to some extent? I'm_not_bitter
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Tue 19 Aug 14

boris001 says...

I'm_not_bitter wrote:
Hwicce wrote:
mr_wilson15 wrote:
Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?
B&Q
Matalan
Cotswold Outdoors
GoOutdoors
Lakeland
Toys R Us
The Range
Morrisons
Decathlon

That would be a good start.
When did it become compulsory to have one of each major retailer within the city? Given that most people would drive to this proposed development and most of that list are available within 15 miles do we need them even closer?
And if B&Q, for instance, open a bright shiny new store in Worcester, who's to say they will keep their not shiny store in Malvern open? Aren't we just shuffling jobs around to some extent?
I'm not bitter
Just carry on with your online shopping and help close high street shops.
[quote][p][bold]I'm_not_bitter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hwicce[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: Absolute garbage. Really. Worcester has every shop that is needed for a City of its size. Almost too many, really. We don't need over 90,000sqm of oversized glorified tin sheds, and we don't need more than 1000 car parking spaces. We really don't. If people aren't happy with the choice on offer already in Worcester, we should consider what's missing .... any offers?[/p][/quote]B&Q Matalan Cotswold Outdoors GoOutdoors Lakeland Toys R Us The Range Morrisons Decathlon That would be a good start.[/p][/quote]When did it become compulsory to have one of each major retailer within the city? Given that most people would drive to this proposed development and most of that list are available within 15 miles do we need them even closer? And if B&Q, for instance, open a bright shiny new store in Worcester, who's to say they will keep their not shiny store in Malvern open? Aren't we just shuffling jobs around to some extent?[/p][/quote]I'm not bitter Just carry on with your online shopping and help close high street shops. boris001
  • Score: 0

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