M5 closed in Worcester after car and caravan "jackknife"

M5 closed in Worcester after car and caravan

M5 closed in Worcester after car and caravan "jackknife"

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THE M5 was closed between junction seven and six after a car and a caravan jackknifed in lane three.

Traffic was being diverted off the northbound junction seven slip road which is half a mile from the incident area in the roadworks.

The carriageway was reopened at about 6pm but there were traffic tailbacks.

There were no reported injuries.

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8:36pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Brian426uk says...

Since when did the M5 appear in Worcester? Wrong headline!
Since when did the M5 appear in Worcester? Wrong headline! Brian426uk
  • Score: -10

12:05am Fri 22 Aug 14

jakebodge says...

What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast?

How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed?

To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc.

Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front!

No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities.
What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast? How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed? To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc. Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front! No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities. jakebodge
  • Score: 5

7:08am Fri 22 Aug 14

losixxx says...

jakebodge wrote:
What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast?

How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed?

To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc.

Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front!

No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities.
Probably because the speed limit whilst towing a caravan on the motorway is 60mph and has been for at least the last 20 years
[quote][p][bold]jakebodge[/bold] wrote: What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast? How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed? To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc. Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front! No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities.[/p][/quote]Probably because the speed limit whilst towing a caravan on the motorway is 60mph and has been for at least the last 20 years losixxx
  • Score: 5

8:49am Fri 22 Aug 14

Perfman says...

losixxx wrote:
jakebodge wrote:
What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast?

How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed?

To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc.

Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front!

No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities.
Probably because the speed limit whilst towing a caravan on the motorway is 60mph and has been for at least the last 20 years
Time to go and refresh your knowledge I think jakebodge ...

https://www.gov.uk/b
rowse/driving/highwa
y-code
[quote][p][bold]losixxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jakebodge[/bold] wrote: What was the caravan doing in lane 3 ( Outside Lane)-travelling too fast? How come we don't see stickers with max limit 50 anymore-has the law changed? To be honest when travelling on M5 most caravans seem to be travelling at least 70 mph being towed by 4 X 4 etc. Then you see a lorry try to overtake in second lane doing 1mph faster than vehicle in front! No wonder the M5 is littered with crashes- just hope no fatalities.[/p][/quote]Probably because the speed limit whilst towing a caravan on the motorway is 60mph and has been for at least the last 20 years[/p][/quote]Time to go and refresh your knowledge I think jakebodge ... https://www.gov.uk/b rowse/driving/highwa y-code Perfman
  • Score: 1

9:38am Fri 22 Aug 14

MJI says...

Towing is so variable. You can tow safely at speed, or dangerously at low speeds.

I used to have a caravan, and it towed very well, in fact it was stable at the motorway limit. and if I had gone to France it would have been safe at the French towing limit.

Yet I have seen outfits out of control at 50mph.

Dos and don'ts

Firstly off roaders, you would think they would automatically make good tow cars, but not necessarly, the hitch can be too high making the van unstable, and some of them are very bouncy, the drivers also tend to get cocky. The best 4x4s for towing caravans are ones made locally with air suspension. Even the ordinary Land Rover, good for towing heavy trailers can have problems with vans.

The most stable tow cars for the average caravan apart from a properly sorted luxury one from Solihul, seem to be big heavy saloons, like the old big Volvos, old big Vauxhalls, decent rear suspension, rear drive, not wallowy.

Nose should be level or slightly down, slightly up causes instability.

Nose weight, the more the better within the car and caravan limits, I used to load mine up to EXACTLY 75kg. Keep the bulk of the weight low on the floor.

Stabliser, some people think they are not important, but treat them like a seatbelt, not neccessary until you need it.

Tyres, get the pressures right and change them no longer than every 6 years, tyres do have lives, usually about 7 from date of manufacture.

Weight of caravan o car, do not exceed weight of car with the van, and the heavier the car in proportion to the van the better.

Yes I do remember such things as overtaking an outfit on a hill and moving across to the right as it was swaying at 50 UP HILL. The unstable outfit on the Somerset levels twitching as it drove along, stabliser hanging off.

Seen another outfit bang the back of the car on the road due to overloading. My parents have seen a small hatch fail to leave a motorway towing a twin axle van due to no grip.

Driving. You are not allowed in lane 3, be very carefull passing lorries, be very carefull near any ports to Ireland as a lot of their lorries are not governed, being passed by an Artic doing 70 is very nervewracking.

Be very carefull on down hills, this is where many accidents happen, best to slow down before you go down than on the hill.

Speed, caravan tyres have a limit of just over 80moh, never exceed the limit for the tyres, even where limits allow it (France limit is the same as the tyre limit), there is nothing wrong with slowing down for going down hill and in heavy cross winds. The most stable state for an outfit is accelerating, so do not worry about exceeding 60 when passing a lorry, keeping that hitch tight as you break through the bow wave is so important.

Corners, caravans can go quie fast around a corner, but don't. Pretend it is bald tyres in the wet and you will be OK.

So get it all right and you will be fine, get it wrong and you will be strewn across the motorway.
Towing is so variable. You can tow safely at speed, or dangerously at low speeds. I used to have a caravan, and it towed very well, in fact it was stable at the motorway limit. and if I had gone to France it would have been safe at the French towing limit. Yet I have seen outfits out of control at 50mph. Dos and don'ts Firstly off roaders, you would think they would automatically make good tow cars, but not necessarly, the hitch can be too high making the van unstable, and some of them are very bouncy, the drivers also tend to get cocky. The best 4x4s for towing caravans are ones made locally with air suspension. Even the ordinary Land Rover, good for towing heavy trailers can have problems with vans. The most stable tow cars for the average caravan apart from a properly sorted luxury one from Solihul, seem to be big heavy saloons, like the old big Volvos, old big Vauxhalls, decent rear suspension, rear drive, not wallowy. Nose should be level or slightly down, slightly up causes instability. Nose weight, the more the better within the car and caravan limits, I used to load mine up to EXACTLY 75kg. Keep the bulk of the weight low on the floor. Stabliser, some people think they are not important, but treat them like a seatbelt, not neccessary until you need it. Tyres, get the pressures right and change them no longer than every 6 years, tyres do have lives, usually about 7 from date of manufacture. Weight of caravan o car, do not exceed weight of car with the van, and the heavier the car in proportion to the van the better. Yes I do remember such things as overtaking an outfit on a hill and moving across to the right as it was swaying at 50 UP HILL. The unstable outfit on the Somerset levels twitching as it drove along, stabliser hanging off. Seen another outfit bang the back of the car on the road due to overloading. My parents have seen a small hatch fail to leave a motorway towing a twin axle van due to no grip. Driving. You are not allowed in lane 3, be very carefull passing lorries, be very carefull near any ports to Ireland as a lot of their lorries are not governed, being passed by an Artic doing 70 is very nervewracking. Be very carefull on down hills, this is where many accidents happen, best to slow down before you go down than on the hill. Speed, caravan tyres have a limit of just over 80moh, never exceed the limit for the tyres, even where limits allow it (France limit is the same as the tyre limit), there is nothing wrong with slowing down for going down hill and in heavy cross winds. The most stable state for an outfit is accelerating, so do not worry about exceeding 60 when passing a lorry, keeping that hitch tight as you break through the bow wave is so important. Corners, caravans can go quie fast around a corner, but don't. Pretend it is bald tyres in the wet and you will be OK. So get it all right and you will be fine, get it wrong and you will be strewn across the motorway. MJI
  • Score: 4

10:58am Fri 22 Aug 14

Tobster says...

Well that's one less caravan on the road, which is a good thing.
Well that's one less caravan on the road, which is a good thing. Tobster
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Fri 22 Aug 14

jakebodge says...

As I have never had the wish to tow a caravan i do not need to actually now the speed limit restriction. If he limit is 60 mph as lossixxx states why do they not display this on caravan as a reminder- or is it not required legally anymore?
As I have never had the wish to tow a caravan i do not need to actually now the speed limit restriction. If he limit is 60 mph as lossixxx states why do they not display this on caravan as a reminder- or is it not required legally anymore? jakebodge
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Fri 22 Aug 14

MJI says...

jakebodge wrote:
As I have never had the wish to tow a caravan i do not need to actually now the speed limit restriction. If he limit is 60 mph as lossixxx states why do they not display this on caravan as a reminder- or is it not required legally anymore?
No requirement.

And as you can see by the other article, speed is not the issue in most cases, the other was mechanical failure
[quote][p][bold]jakebodge[/bold] wrote: As I have never had the wish to tow a caravan i do not need to actually now the speed limit restriction. If he limit is 60 mph as lossixxx states why do they not display this on caravan as a reminder- or is it not required legally anymore?[/p][/quote]No requirement. And as you can see by the other article, speed is not the issue in most cases, the other was mechanical failure MJI
  • Score: 0

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