West Mercia Police to receive Polish culture training

West Mercia Police to receive Polish culture training

West Mercia Police to receive Polish culture training

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POLICE officers will be taking part in specialist awareness training to boost their understanding of the Polish culture.

Throughout September police officers from West Mercia across north and south Worcestershire will be looking at all areas of the Polish culture to engage and develop a more coherent relationship and presences within the community.

The aim is to provide and deliver a more improved service which is more accessible for members of the Polish community.

Superintendent Mark Travis said: "Worcester city and the whole of north and south Worcestershire is a thriving multi-cultural community, it is really important that we understand the customs and cultures of the people we serve. We work with advisory groups to ensure we understand and address the needs of local communities we serve.

"This training will ensure our officers gain a deeper understanding and insight of our Polish community and therefore, will help to improve the service we deliver."

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4:48pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Tobster says...

Despite a radically different native language, I'd say (having previously gone out with one and now living with two) Polish people are culturally similar enough for this whole 'culture training' endevour to be massively pointless.

And I do hope it doesn't mean "we should strategically treat people differently according to their culture" as that would be racist!
Despite a radically different native language, I'd say (having previously gone out with one and now living with two) Polish people are culturally similar enough for this whole 'culture training' endevour to be massively pointless. And I do hope it doesn't mean "we should strategically treat people differently according to their culture" as that would be racist! Tobster
  • Score: 20

4:52pm Thu 4 Sep 14

dave cus says...

wanted to leave a comment on the 'Evesham sex attacker jailed' but the commens are disable?
wanted to leave a comment on the 'Evesham sex attacker jailed' but the commens are disable? dave cus
  • Score: -6

6:29pm Thu 4 Sep 14

CYNIC_AL says...

So how culturally different are Polish people from us Brits? Hardly I'd say. There's no money to keep the county's police stations open but there's plenty of cash to send officers on pointless politically correct diversity courses it would seem...
So how culturally different are Polish people from us Brits? Hardly I'd say. There's no money to keep the county's police stations open but there's plenty of cash to send officers on pointless politically correct diversity courses it would seem... CYNIC_AL
  • Score: 39

7:03pm Thu 4 Sep 14

librarianbath says...

I'd likke to know: 1) who authorised this; 2) Who is delivering the "training"; 3) How much the "training" is going to cost, and 4) How they were identified as being suitable for delivering this training along with details of any relationships or associations they have with members of the West Mercia Police.

Reporter Gema Bate, can you dig a little deeper please and give us some real facts instead of soundbites and propaganda?
I'd likke to know: 1) who authorised this; 2) Who is delivering the "training"; 3) How much the "training" is going to cost, and 4) How they were identified as being suitable for delivering this training along with details of any relationships or associations they have with members of the West Mercia Police. Reporter Gema Bate, can you dig a little deeper please and give us some real facts instead of soundbites and propaganda? librarianbath
  • Score: 29

7:13pm Thu 4 Sep 14

3thinker says...

Dzien dobry.

My mother has offered to do the training for free.

She's an acknowledge expert on the Polish Culture!
Dzien dobry. My mother has offered to do the training for free. She's an acknowledge expert on the Polish Culture! 3thinker
  • Score: -4

7:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

speak your mind says...

It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?
It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ? speak your mind
  • Score: 67

9:22pm Thu 4 Sep 14

gmoore1207 says...

speak your mind wrote:
It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?
you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland
[quote][p][bold]speak your mind[/bold] wrote: It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?[/p][/quote]you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland gmoore1207
  • Score: 27

10:22pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Gruszeczka says...

Police are too soft for the people , Iam Polish and I know that problem. from autopsy . The problem is much deeper then you think. It not a Polish culture of drinking but English culture living on benefits . Without money they can get alcohol , after prison for theft or public disorder etc etc x times into prison in a year . Sorry who paying for that well of course we all . Its much simpler exit to resolve problem . Just think .Sorry guys no one mentioned we talking about small group of people ,, homeless or benefiters ,,Once again it is not a Polish Culture of Drinking . We are not different then locals unfortunately .
Police are too soft for the people , Iam Polish and I know that problem. from autopsy . The problem is much deeper then you think. It not a Polish culture of drinking but English culture living on benefits . Without money they can get alcohol , after prison for theft or public disorder etc etc x times into prison in a year . Sorry who paying for that well of course we all . Its much simpler exit to resolve problem . Just think .Sorry guys no one mentioned we talking about small group of people ,, homeless or benefiters ,,Once again it is not a Polish Culture of Drinking . We are not different then locals unfortunately . Gruszeczka
  • Score: 9

10:45pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bufton Tufton says...

Tobster wrote:
Despite a radically different native language, I'd say (having previously gone out with one and now living with two) Polish people are culturally similar enough for this whole 'culture training' endevour to be massively pointless.

And I do hope it doesn't mean "we should strategically treat people differently according to their culture" as that would be racist!
I agree, I lived in Poland for several years. The Poles are bog-standard middle Europeans just like their next door neighbours the Germans in many respects although culturally their nearest equivalent, being also a strong Roman Catholic nation, is probably the Irish. I expect some enterprising outfit (PR?)has seen a money making opportunity and has conned gullible West Mercia Police into parting with huge wads of "our" cash so that the police can tick another box on the PC (no-pun intended) credentials form. The Poles are generally a quite entrepreneurial lot ( so there is cultural lesson point number one for free) and I suspect there are Polish brains behind this clever scam; poor old dumbo plod dosnt stand a chance and has swallowed the bait, hook, line..............
[quote][p][bold]Tobster[/bold] wrote: Despite a radically different native language, I'd say (having previously gone out with one and now living with two) Polish people are culturally similar enough for this whole 'culture training' endevour to be massively pointless. And I do hope it doesn't mean "we should strategically treat people differently according to their culture" as that would be racist![/p][/quote]I agree, I lived in Poland for several years. The Poles are bog-standard middle Europeans just like their next door neighbours the Germans in many respects although culturally their nearest equivalent, being also a strong Roman Catholic nation, is probably the Irish. I expect some enterprising outfit (PR?)has seen a money making opportunity and has conned gullible West Mercia Police into parting with huge wads of "our" cash so that the police can tick another box on the PC (no-pun intended) credentials form. The Poles are generally a quite entrepreneurial lot ( so there is cultural lesson point number one for free) and I suspect there are Polish brains behind this clever scam; poor old dumbo plod dosnt stand a chance and has swallowed the bait, hook, line.............. Bufton Tufton
  • Score: 18

10:56pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Gruszeczka says...

It is a good point to recommend Yellow Scarf , Charity Organisation run by Polish people in Worcester , they have brilliant back ground experience , and also they looking for any possibility to share knowledge as they have and they are always open for any propose . http://yellowscarf.o
rg.uk/ ,just check this out . The cost will be lower , by the way how much is the fish worth . ,, Course of understanding Polish culture lol . it is some about 500 years to learn .
It is a good point to recommend Yellow Scarf , Charity Organisation run by Polish people in Worcester , they have brilliant back ground experience , and also they looking for any possibility to share knowledge as they have and they are always open for any propose . http://yellowscarf.o rg.uk/ ,just check this out . The cost will be lower , by the way how much is the fish worth . ,, Course of understanding Polish culture lol . it is some about 500 years to learn . Gruszeczka
  • Score: 3

7:09am Fri 5 Sep 14

worcestersfinest says...

I really don't see the advantage of what our tax money is being spent on here, can somebody explain?
I really don't see the advantage of what our tax money is being spent on here, can somebody explain? worcestersfinest
  • Score: 13

10:58am Fri 5 Sep 14

uncivil says...

This is a box ticking exercise by some one high up in west mercia police. I work for the Home Office, and in receiving such training the department is washing its hands with any do called racial incident on the streets. "All my officers have revived cultural awareness training not our fault". Polish crime is like brit crime, too much beer on a Saturday night and a great British fight. Let's no label people different and learn from the mistakes we as a country all ways make and encourage integration unlike we have with other migrants.
This is a box ticking exercise by some one high up in west mercia police. I work for the Home Office, and in receiving such training the department is washing its hands with any do called racial incident on the streets. "All my officers have revived cultural awareness training not our fault". Polish crime is like brit crime, too much beer on a Saturday night and a great British fight. Let's no label people different and learn from the mistakes we as a country all ways make and encourage integration unlike we have with other migrants. uncivil
  • Score: 6

12:36pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Jabbadad says...

What a sad bunch on here who are unable to see past the end of their biased racial unaware noses.
I am a proud / defiant Englishman as anyone, but I am old enough to recall the parents and grandparents of these hardworking polish people here now, who even after the disgraceful treatment by the west when Germany invaded Poland, the polish partisan / Freedom fighters fought on and then joined in with our Armies to defeat the Nazis in Germany.
Now in my voluntary work around Care Homes I meet many young poles working as carers, and who treat our elderly with great respect and kindness.
I also love to see the variety of vibrant Polish Delis and other Delis in the city center who are helping to create a community spirit among their working nationals here in Worcester and other cities.
For the uneducated who are posting on here to try to help people to become aware of other Nationalities is the way forward for our next generation to understand and live side by side when it occurs.
In the past I have been involved and attended awareness meetings between local Worcester people and local Muslims, since many of us believed that awareness of other peoples cultures was / is a way forward.
Strangely enough we had the most opposition from the Muslim Males when we tried to include the Women in their own / female committees to contribute to their society.
And of course the women of all races would suffer the most if Shariah law which operates in 80+ courts here in the UK spreads seemingly under the very noses of our inept politicians.
But we tried and that is what we should all be doing by welcoming awareness schemes which are pathfinders to multicultural living., which is never going away now.
What a sad bunch on here who are unable to see past the end of their biased racial unaware noses. I am a proud / defiant Englishman as anyone, but I am old enough to recall the parents and grandparents of these hardworking polish people here now, who even after the disgraceful treatment by the west when Germany invaded Poland, the polish partisan / Freedom fighters fought on and then joined in with our Armies to defeat the Nazis in Germany. Now in my voluntary work around Care Homes I meet many young poles working as carers, and who treat our elderly with great respect and kindness. I also love to see the variety of vibrant Polish Delis and other Delis in the city center who are helping to create a community spirit among their working nationals here in Worcester and other cities. For the uneducated who are posting on here to try to help people to become aware of other Nationalities is the way forward for our next generation to understand and live side by side when it occurs. In the past I have been involved and attended awareness meetings between local Worcester people and local Muslims, since many of us believed that awareness of other peoples cultures was / is a way forward. Strangely enough we had the most opposition from the Muslim Males when we tried to include the Women in their own / female committees to contribute to their society. And of course the women of all races would suffer the most if Shariah law which operates in 80+ courts here in the UK spreads seemingly under the very noses of our inept politicians. But we tried and that is what we should all be doing by welcoming awareness schemes which are pathfinders to multicultural living., which is never going away now. Jabbadad
  • Score: 2

5:56pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Keith B says...

gmoore1207 wrote:
speak your mind wrote:
It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?
you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland
Exactly - as bad as when the West Midland female ACC visited a group of Muslims she dressed up in a headscarf presumably to respect their culture. What about OUR culture and respecting that? I know that in about 100 years time the majority of people will be Muslim in the UK, but for now the UK is a Country loosely based on a Christian Western European ethos, around a culture that has evolved over a millennium.

That evolution has taken it through all sorts of immigrations from the Norman Conquest to the Dutch and German take over of the Monarchy in the 18th century to the influx from the Commonwealth nations. This included escaping Polish and Czech people who joined us in World War II to fight both in the Battle of Britain and D-Day. Many settled - but nobody needed cultural training to integrate them - it just evolved and their kin are now 3rd, 4th and 5th generation English.

The Police have more important priorities like getting in touch with the BBC while hounding celebrities for historic sex crimes or chasing a sick little boy across Europe in order to jail his parents when they hadn't committed any crime.

And stupid as it seems, the Eastern Europeans seem to quite like our culture, our politics, our economy, our way of life, even our friendly policemen - which is probably why they stay here and settle and bring their children up primarily speaking English at English schools without a thought for referring to the place they originated from as home. Which is a lot more than can be said for many of our Commonwealth cousins.
[quote][p][bold]gmoore1207[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speak your mind[/bold] wrote: It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?[/p][/quote]you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland[/p][/quote]Exactly - as bad as when the West Midland female ACC visited a group of Muslims she dressed up in a headscarf presumably to respect their culture. What about OUR culture and respecting that? I know that in about 100 years time the majority of people will be Muslim in the UK, but for now the UK is a Country loosely based on a Christian Western European ethos, around a culture that has evolved over a millennium. That evolution has taken it through all sorts of immigrations from the Norman Conquest to the Dutch and German take over of the Monarchy in the 18th century to the influx from the Commonwealth nations. This included escaping Polish and Czech people who joined us in World War II to fight both in the Battle of Britain and D-Day. Many settled - but nobody needed cultural training to integrate them - it just evolved and their kin are now 3rd, 4th and 5th generation English. The Police have more important priorities like getting in touch with the BBC while hounding celebrities for historic sex crimes or chasing a sick little boy across Europe in order to jail his parents when they hadn't committed any crime. And stupid as it seems, the Eastern Europeans seem to quite like our culture, our politics, our economy, our way of life, even our friendly policemen - which is probably why they stay here and settle and bring their children up primarily speaking English at English schools without a thought for referring to the place they originated from as home. Which is a lot more than can be said for many of our Commonwealth cousins. Keith B
  • Score: 3

6:12pm Fri 5 Sep 14

sensiblegeezer says...

librarianbath wrote:
I'd likke to know: 1) who authorised this; 2) Who is delivering the "training"; 3) How much the "training" is going to cost, and 4) How they were identified as being suitable for delivering this training along with details of any relationships or associations they have with members of the West Mercia Police.

Reporter Gema Bate, can you dig a little deeper please and give us some real facts instead of soundbites and propaganda?
when are they going to do courses relating to the dozens of other nationalities living in our area?
[quote][p][bold]librarianbath[/bold] wrote: I'd likke to know: 1) who authorised this; 2) Who is delivering the "training"; 3) How much the "training" is going to cost, and 4) How they were identified as being suitable for delivering this training along with details of any relationships or associations they have with members of the West Mercia Police. Reporter Gema Bate, can you dig a little deeper please and give us some real facts instead of soundbites and propaganda?[/p][/quote]when are they going to do courses relating to the dozens of other nationalities living in our area? sensiblegeezer
  • Score: 2

11:53pm Fri 5 Sep 14

DarrenM says...

also what happened about the footage regarding the riot outside Mcdonalds? All brushed under the carpet like usual eh?
also what happened about the footage regarding the riot outside Mcdonalds? All brushed under the carpet like usual eh? DarrenM
  • Score: 5

7:07am Sat 6 Sep 14

Give Up! says...

Well done DarrenM.....I must need a course in my own culture as I can't understand your purpose in posting on this story other than to cause further issues. I suppose everybody has forgotten the story as those filming it on their phones have had the opportunity to view and hear their footage and thought... Oops, perhaps it or I wasn't as innocent as I thought. If there was footage of police brutality it would be everywhere as posting to social media takes one click and is hard to trace the source. If someone had genuine footage of police brutality one of the national papers would pay a fortune....... One must assume from the silence there is none....
Well done DarrenM.....I must need a course in my own culture as I can't understand your purpose in posting on this story other than to cause further issues. I suppose everybody has forgotten the story as those filming it on their phones have had the opportunity to view and hear their footage and thought... Oops, perhaps it or I wasn't as innocent as I thought. If there was footage of police brutality it would be everywhere as posting to social media takes one click and is hard to trace the source. If someone had genuine footage of police brutality one of the national papers would pay a fortune....... One must assume from the silence there is none.... Give Up!
  • Score: -2

8:14am Sat 6 Sep 14

truth must out says...

gmoore1207 wrote:
speak your mind wrote:
It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?
you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland
Like all the British living in Spain.....I'm sure they all learn about the culture and learn the language NOT.
[quote][p][bold]gmoore1207[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speak your mind[/bold] wrote: It's the wrong way round. Shouldn't the Polish people be receiving training in England's Culture ?[/p][/quote]you are spot on why do we keep bending over backwards for these people after all this is england not poland[/p][/quote]Like all the British living in Spain.....I'm sure they all learn about the culture and learn the language NOT. truth must out
  • Score: -4

10:53am Sat 6 Sep 14

pinkfluff says...

Our country is run by politicians and these stupid and quite frankly embarrassing "ideas" trickle down form there.

People are individuals and just cannot be lumped together like this. Absolutely pointless exercise.
Our country is run by politicians and these stupid and quite frankly embarrassing "ideas" trickle down form there. People are individuals and just cannot be lumped together like this. Absolutely pointless exercise. pinkfluff
  • Score: 5

11:20pm Sat 6 Sep 14

Give Up! says...

Why are we scared of allowing our police the ability to understand other cultures ? It's not all about arresting drunken idiots...... It's about telling someone a loved one has died or speaking to their young child who may be a victim of a serious sexual offence, surely by bridging any culture gap makes our police service more effective? The same is done for other cultures, the police don't choose who to help based on their colour, culture or wealth so surely understanding any differences can only help???
Why are we scared of allowing our police the ability to understand other cultures ? It's not all about arresting drunken idiots...... It's about telling someone a loved one has died or speaking to their young child who may be a victim of a serious sexual offence, surely by bridging any culture gap makes our police service more effective? The same is done for other cultures, the police don't choose who to help based on their colour, culture or wealth so surely understanding any differences can only help??? Give Up!
  • Score: 2

11:00am Sun 7 Sep 14

pinkfluff says...

Give Up! wrote:
Why are we scared of allowing our police the ability to understand other cultures ? It's not all about arresting drunken idiots...... It's about telling someone a loved one has died or speaking to their young child who may be a victim of a serious sexual offence, surely by bridging any culture gap makes our police service more effective? The same is done for other cultures, the police don't choose who to help based on their colour, culture or wealth so surely understanding any differences can only help???
Agreed but isn't that being a compassionate person training?

I'm not looking for an argument but I personally would find it offensive if someone treated me a certain way because of my skin colour and background.
[quote][p][bold]Give Up![/bold] wrote: Why are we scared of allowing our police the ability to understand other cultures ? It's not all about arresting drunken idiots...... It's about telling someone a loved one has died or speaking to their young child who may be a victim of a serious sexual offence, surely by bridging any culture gap makes our police service more effective? The same is done for other cultures, the police don't choose who to help based on their colour, culture or wealth so surely understanding any differences can only help???[/p][/quote]Agreed but isn't that being a compassionate person training? I'm not looking for an argument but I personally would find it offensive if someone treated me a certain way because of my skin colour and background. pinkfluff
  • Score: 1

12:49pm Wed 10 Sep 14

canuck7 says...

well from what I see daily around the city along the canal and in various liitle alleyways near the hive the polish guys enjoy a drink...it would be more than nice to make these people realize that the fact that they choose to keep ignoring the law on street drinking because they can and do... doesn't give them the right over English people to do the same. start actually enforcing the law and fining these persistent lawbreakers - and then we'll all see how fast they stop they're frequent boozing in "no alcohol designated area's". never mind culture training , stop wasting money and putting the cart before the horse- stop them getting drunk on our city streets and then going on to cause trouble so pc whoever then knows how to say dos vendania.
well from what I see daily around the city along the canal and in various liitle alleyways near the hive the polish guys enjoy a drink...it would be more than nice to make these people realize that the fact that they choose to keep ignoring the law on street drinking because they can and do... doesn't give them the right over English people to do the same. start actually enforcing the law and fining these persistent lawbreakers - [ £500 maximum fine?!] and then we'll all see how fast they stop they're frequent boozing in "no alcohol designated area's". never mind culture training , stop wasting money and putting the cart before the horse- stop them getting drunk on our city streets and then going on to cause trouble so pc whoever then knows how to say dos vendania. canuck7
  • Score: 0

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