University is awarded extra 1,500 places (From Worcester News)

David Beckham studies B(ull)A Hons anyone?

Still, it keeps them off the dole and in-hock to their student loans for the foreseeable future.

I bet St. Johns can't wait for the latest influx.

University? I don't think so.

Living in st johns, students are less of a problem than small minded folk such as your self. Ever think that the university actually brings not only significant economic wealth but also educational wealth to region. But im guessing from your rather uneducated comment you may not have even attended play school, look at the greater picture not the i don’t want it in by back yard mindset of a small amount of people. Perhaps instead of condemnation support and integration would be a more positive way forward, but if your happy having a little moan carry on.

MrStJohns, how exactly am I,a member of the 'small minded folk', more of a problem to the residents of St Johns than some of the 'students' of this 'University'?

The fact is that we are pumping millions into producing graduates, most of which will leave 'University' only to find that the only work available to them are those same jobs that they could have applied for directly after leaving school - with exactly the same pay.

These disillusioned souls will then find themselves in serious debt.

When I was at 'play scool' University I worked at this establishment (then a College of Higher Education), during the summer. Even with my 'uneducated' mind it was hard to fathom how some of the then student teachers were ever to employed as such. They found it difficult enough to string coherent sentences together.

Firstly let me ask, how do these students actually impinge on your lifestyle, please enlighten? Secondly would you rather the money was given to immigrants and the never ending stream at the dole office. Why would you be so disgruntled that a proportion of the population choose to go down the route of further education? Of course when you visit any university there will be varied abilities and also people that fall by the wayside, which is inevitable. And just to answer your first question, you along with a select group of other who do nothing but complain about the university, would do well to think about how perhaps Worcester would fair if it had no university and stayed in the backwaters of education. I see that you choose to ignore the obvious benefits of the university to Worcester, it is always convenient to do this isn’t it when making a flawed argument?! However you are more than entitled to your opinion as i am to mine.

1. I haven't said that they do.

2. There will be a huge percentage of new graduates (from this University and others), on the dole queue at the end of this term.

3. While the University has undoubted financial benefits (not least for the University hierarchy) to the local economy, when the finance is no longer available to sustain it in it's current state, I suspect post general election, that same local economy will be in real difficulty.

4. Urban & Electronic Music Production HND

"I bet StJohns can’t wait for the latest influx" What are you trying to say if not something detrimental by making this statement? There will also be a huge percentage of school leavers on the dole as the fantastic government has ensured that. However Worcester university is making ground into decreasing this number by offering graduate internships perhaps you would like to read up on this it appeared in the paper not so long ago. Worcester university like every other has state funding, but unlike many others actually profits in the region of 1 million pounds per year, so requires no subsequent funding from central government, this money is then reinvested in the local area to improve Worcester not only as a university city but also to create areas that the citizens of Worcester can enjoy, please take a look at the recent university sponsored literary festival, or perhaps the new city centre campus that will have a public square for anyone to enjoy the list continues, or do these example not fit your argument. So as a centre for both sporting and teaching ‘excellence’ as quoted in the recent ofsted report will continue to be a popular choice as these occupations are consistently popular. The whole reason that the university had to be granted extra places was to meet demand, as it is and has continued to be the fastest growing university in England. I also find it rather sad that you would attempt to devalue peoples degrees and qualifications by making statements that because they are not achieved at the very pinnacle of education they are not valid, fortunately other institutions exist other than Oxbridge. The fact that the university offers in conjunction with various other institutions courses such as ‘urban and electronic music production’ shows that it is both forward thinking and able to adapt to what is demanded. Picking up on what you obviously feel is a ‘micky mouse course’ shows how irrelevant your argument is, because you fail to observe the whole picture, this is known as obscuring the truth to suit your own means. The university also offers any other degree that you wish to study including sciences, business engineering, history etc.. why not take the time to read up on what is offered by the university instead of making half cocked remarks that have little or no basis in fact other than to serve your own view, which as I mentioned your are entitled to.

'"I bet StJohns can’t wait for the latest influx" What are you trying to say if not something detrimental by making this statement?'

Parking is already at a premium. Staff already have to pay to park their cars at their place of work (akin to NHS PFIs). The overspill of extra cars by increasing student numbers will only make matters worse.

Many people, other than I, have raised this issue.

'I also find it rather sad that you would attempt to devalue peoples degrees and qualifications by making statements that because they are not achieved at the very pinnacle of education they are not valid'

It is not the fault of the students that, yes, degrees are devalued. Even if standards have not fallen the fact remains that by massively increasing numbers of graduates it obviously devalues their worth.

It's supply and demand.

Well we have differing views on the subject, that’s allowed. im not trying to make you think the same way as myself merely look past the smaller issue of, i cant park outside my house, therefore the world has ended. And see that the university brings far more benefits than it does minuses

The parking issue is not a small issue, but rather a reflection on the ill thought out 'let's make Worcester the student capital of the UK' mindset. There again, if the emergency services cannot gain access due to parking problems then it may be the end of the world for the unfortunate person who needs them.

And as for the devalued degrees...

As for the devalued degrees, well in my opinion a higher level of education, and being able to gain access to it is not a devaluation of degrees, but if in your opinion it is, as i mentioned your allowed to hold that. As for the emergency services not being able to access a burning home, that’s an excuse often churned out by the nimby brigade. Trust me having a late family member that was a fireman if a service crew need to access to a property then vehicle’s that are obstructing the path will be moved by whatever means necessary, that procedure is inclusive also of the ambulance service. As i ended my last post with the statement that i was merely pointing out that there are many advantages to having such a prosperous university, which shade the few disadvantages. However you seem rather hung up on some issues and im sure what ever i go onto say, whether it be actual fact or my personal opinion will do little to change your view, and why should it.

Obviously we will have to agree to disagree.

Yours, 'a small minded', 'hung up on some issues', 'nimby'.