Melting snow causes flooding

Worcester News: Melting snow causes flooding Melting snow causes flooding

Flooding across Worcestershire has been blamed on a combination of rain and melting snow.

Flooding has been reported on roads in Holt, Rhydd and Leigh Sinton, as well as in Bromyard, Callow Marsh and Ledbury in Herefordshire.

But the Enviroment Agency said they will not be putting any flood warnings out yet, as the flooding is being caused by rain and melting snow rather than rising river levels.

A spokesperson said: "These are low lying roads, which is why the water is gathering there.

"The water is a both rainfall and snow, but we are not expecting a massive impact from rain this afternoon.

"We are monitoring the situation and will keep an eye on river levels but we are not expecting it to become a problem."

The roads affected are: Both ways between B4211 and A449 Malvern Road B4424 in Rhydd, the A4103 at B4503 Leigh Sinton Road in Leigh Sinton, the A443 Witley Road between B4196 (Holt) and Greenhill Lane (Hallow) in Holt, as well as on New Street in Ledbury, B4214 Northbound between A4103 and Stoke Lane in Callow Marsh and B4214 High Street in Bromyard, between B4203 Cruxwell Street and A4112 Cross Street.

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11:25am Sat 16 Jan 10

uptonX says...

"But the Enviroment Agency said they will not be putting any flood warnings out yet, as the flooding is being caused by rain and melting snow rather than rising river levels. "

Where do they think all that water is going to go ?? The EA really are a bunch of muppets. Have they not thought of all that Welsh snow filling the Upper Severn this weekend.

As always they will be only too keen to jump in front of TV cameras as the water levels drop but will do NOTHING before.
"But the Enviroment Agency said they will not be putting any flood warnings out yet, as the flooding is being caused by rain and melting snow rather than rising river levels. " Where do they think all that water is going to go ?? The EA really are a bunch of muppets. Have they not thought of all that Welsh snow filling the Upper Severn this weekend. As always they will be only too keen to jump in front of TV cameras as the water levels drop but will do NOTHING before. uptonX
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11:40am Sat 16 Jan 10

rgdudley says...

What do you expect them to say? A warning of "the river might rise at some point in the future" is pretty useless.
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When the river rises and the chances of real flooding (rather than a bit on some roads) are increased they will issue the warnings and they will actually have some meaning.
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Try reading Peter and the Wolf.
What do you expect them to say? A warning of "the river might rise at some point in the future" is pretty useless. . When the river rises and the chances of real flooding (rather than a bit on some roads) are increased they will issue the warnings and they will actually have some meaning. . Try reading Peter and the Wolf. rgdudley
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12:49pm Sat 16 Jan 10

jovialcommonsense says...

Agreed rgdudley
Agreed rgdudley jovialcommonsense
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5:01pm Sat 16 Jan 10

js says...

"We are monitoring the situation and will keep an eye on river levels but we are not expecting it to become a problem."

Yet they are putting the barriers up in Upton upon Severn because the river is rising - and has risen a lot during today.

A bit of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing?
"We are monitoring the situation and will keep an eye on river levels but we are not expecting it to become a problem." Yet they are putting the barriers up in Upton upon Severn because the river is rising - and has risen a lot during today. A bit of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing? js
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5:59pm Sat 16 Jan 10

uptonX says...

Point of my post is LAST WEEK those of us who live by the river knew we would have a problem. The warm weather today with heavy rain was forecast by the Met Office (with 90% certainty) last weekend and we have been watching its progress until it arrived last night. The combination is a nightmare (it is of course exactly the circumstances that caused the record floods in 1948) Those of us affected by flooding have learnt to ignore the EA and have already taken action to prepare for the significant flood event that we WILL experience in the next 72 hours as the rain and melted Welsh snow flow down the Severn.
If they were competent the EA would have put out an early warning so the other agencies could be prepared, the problem is the police, highways and council are only able to act once they receive an EA warning so road closures and warning signs are never ready. The barriers are just arriving in Upton now but the river is already over the bank in places.
If as reported above the EA really said earlier today that they "were not expecting .. a problem" then that is a breathtaking degree of incompetence - even for them.
Point of my post is LAST WEEK those of us who live by the river knew we would have a problem. The warm weather today with heavy rain was forecast by the Met Office (with 90% certainty) last weekend and we have been watching its progress until it arrived last night. The combination is a nightmare (it is of course exactly the circumstances that caused the record floods in 1948) Those of us affected by flooding have learnt to ignore the EA and have already taken action to prepare for the significant flood event that we WILL experience in the next 72 hours as the rain and melted Welsh snow flow down the Severn. If they were competent the EA would have put out an early warning so the other agencies could be prepared, the problem is the police, highways and council are only able to act once they receive an EA warning so road closures and warning signs are never ready. The barriers are just arriving in Upton now but the river is already over the bank in places. If as reported above the EA really said earlier today that they "were not expecting .. a problem" then that is a breathtaking degree of incompetence - even for them. uptonX
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8:08am Sun 17 Jan 10

TmP says...

Common sense could tell you that rain plus melting snow will result in flooding in areas known to flood. It is not rocket science and happens ever year.
Common sense could tell you that rain plus melting snow will result in flooding in areas known to flood. It is not rocket science and happens ever year. TmP
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12:44pm Sun 17 Jan 10

jb says...

Watched Sky News today in Upton, with THE FLOODS!..well done the EA. It seems the residents know more than they do...
Watched Sky News today in Upton, with THE FLOODS!..well done the EA. It seems the residents know more than they do... jb
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8:54am Mon 18 Jan 10

PepperPot says...

UptonX was right, there is a lot of flooding in Upton today, the water is now on to the Hanley Road and I expect that will shut in the next few hours.
Worcester News should ask Environment Agency to explain why they thought on Saturday they thought flooding would not be a problem.
UptonX was right, there is a lot of flooding in Upton today, the water is now on to the Hanley Road and I expect that will shut in the next few hours. Worcester News should ask Environment Agency to explain why they thought on Saturday they thought flooding would not be a problem. PepperPot
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1:47pm Mon 18 Jan 10

rgdudley says...

And the flood barriers are up so what's the problem?
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Are any properties flooded that would have been protected if the warning was out earlier?
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Or is this just another whinge from someone who bought a house on a flood plain and wonders why they have wet feet occasionally?
And the flood barriers are up so what's the problem? . Are any properties flooded that would have been protected if the warning was out earlier? . Or is this just another whinge from someone who bought a house on a flood plain and wonders why they have wet feet occasionally? rgdudley
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8:02pm Mon 18 Jan 10

PepperPot says...

RGDudley, OK, here is an example, Waterside Cottages on Hanley Road are currently being flooded by the bow waves of vehicles pushing through the flood water. To prevent this the Highways Agency would normally put up road barriers. The Highways Agency can't do this until the Police tell them the road is officially closed. The Police will not close the road until Environment Agency tell them it will flood. On Saturday (just 48 hours ago) the Environment agency said there would NOT be a flood problem.
That is why people are angry with the Environment Agency. Their statement made the situation WORSE for people affected by flooding. There are other examples but hopefully you now see the issue.
RGDudley, OK, here is an example, Waterside Cottages on Hanley Road are currently being flooded by the bow waves of vehicles pushing through the flood water. To prevent this the Highways Agency would normally put up road barriers. The Highways Agency can't do this until the Police tell them the road is officially closed. The Police will not close the road until Environment Agency tell them it will flood. On Saturday (just 48 hours ago) the Environment agency said there would NOT be a flood problem. That is why people are angry with the Environment Agency. Their statement made the situation WORSE for people affected by flooding. There are other examples but hopefully you now see the issue. PepperPot
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8:08pm Mon 18 Jan 10

uptonX says...

A watched the flood barriers go up today, it was close, they were only just here in time, the workmen were running around to get them watertight as the water had already reached them.
A watched the flood barriers go up today, it was close, they were only just here in time, the workmen were running around to get them watertight as the water had already reached them. uptonX
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8:40am Tue 19 Jan 10

rgdudley says...

PepperPot wrote:
RGDudley, OK, here is an example, Waterside Cottages on Hanley Road are currently being flooded by the bow waves of vehicles pushing through the flood water. To prevent this the Highways Agency would normally put up road barriers. The Highways Agency can't do this until the Police tell them the road is officially closed. The Police will not close the road until Environment Agency tell them it will flood. On Saturday (just 48 hours ago) the Environment agency said there would NOT be a flood problem. That is why people are angry with the Environment Agency. Their statement made the situation WORSE for people affected by flooding. There are other examples but hopefully you now see the issue.
If the road IS flooded and the Police and Highways Agency won't do anything until the EA says it WILL flood then I suggest this is a problem with the Highways and the Police ignoring the obvious rather than the EA.
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But he-ho no one seems to be able to make a descion for themselves these days, they always want to pass the buck to someone else.
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If Hanley road is flooded and you have problems with cars then block the road yourselfs, at least then you may get some action.
[quote][p][bold]PepperPot[/bold] wrote: RGDudley, OK, here is an example, Waterside Cottages on Hanley Road are currently being flooded by the bow waves of vehicles pushing through the flood water. To prevent this the Highways Agency would normally put up road barriers. The Highways Agency can't do this until the Police tell them the road is officially closed. The Police will not close the road until Environment Agency tell them it will flood. On Saturday (just 48 hours ago) the Environment agency said there would NOT be a flood problem. That is why people are angry with the Environment Agency. Their statement made the situation WORSE for people affected by flooding. There are other examples but hopefully you now see the issue.[/p][/quote]If the road IS flooded and the Police and Highways Agency won't do anything until the EA says it WILL flood then I suggest this is a problem with the Highways and the Police ignoring the obvious rather than the EA. . But he-ho no one seems to be able to make a descion for themselves these days, they always want to pass the buck to someone else. . If Hanley road is flooded and you have problems with cars then block the road yourselfs, at least then you may get some action. rgdudley
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