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Residents want 20mph speed limit

2:50pm Friday 29th January 2010


PEOPLE living in Worcester streets want a 20mph speed limit.

Following a survey, Worcester Green Party says 97 per cent of people living in streets off Wyld’s Lane want the speed limit in their roads cut to 20mph. Also, 57 per cent of people asked in Hill Street, Stanley Road, Vincent Road and Cecil Road want speed bumps.

Anne Potter, head of Stanley Road Primary School, said there had been a frightening number of “near misses” involving pupils in Stanley Road.

She said: “There have been far too many close calls.” Louis Stephen of Worcester Green Party urged those wanting a 20mph limit to get in touch with him at worcester greenparty.org.uk.

Councillor Derek Prodger, the county council’s cabinet member for transport, said officers are reviewing speed limits outside all county schools.


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mort, worcs says...
3:36pm Fri 29 Jan 10

i never do more than 10mph on wylds lane because of all the cars parked, sorry abandonned there!

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rgdudley, Worcester says...
3:49pm Fri 29 Jan 10

Maybe there should be some road safety lessons done as well. It's better to be not hit at all rather than just hit at a slower speed.
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What ever happened to the Green Cross Man and even Tufty (for those olde enough)?
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There's a 20 mph speed limit and humps outside Tudor Grange but it doesn't make any difference to the speed so it's not a solution.

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pudniw_gib, Malvern says...
4:04pm Fri 29 Jan 10

Parking badly slows the traffic down a bit..

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skychip, Worcester says...
4:19pm Fri 29 Jan 10

It's one thing having a speed limit of 20 mph it is another to get someone to police it

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DarrenM, worcester says...
6:23pm Fri 29 Jan 10

Is the paper the "Proger News" now?, If I had a pound for every time he has been mentioned in a story recently I'd buy the Foley Arms myself!

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jb, worcester says...
6:37pm Fri 29 Jan 10

In this report someone has mentioned about 'near misses' with children and vehicles. I assume the cars haven't mounted the pavement therefore it's down to the children not being aware of road safety proceedures. Reducing the speed limit outside schools would be a help in some areas but these days from what I have seen most children are totally unaware of the dangers when crossing roads. The responsibility for this should be shared by the school, parents, motorists and even the children themselves. A child can still be injured by a vehicle moving at 20mph if they dart into the road in front of it so maybe giving stronger and continuing road safety training would ensure that the children can understand how to keep themselves safe near roads. Also there are parents who will insist on parking illegally outside schools when dropping off and picking their children up, they should be targeted too as their inconsiderate actions can cause serious problems for pedestrians and motorists alike.

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Piccolo, Worcester says...
7:16pm Fri 29 Jan 10

1. Putting aside for a moment the question of some local - probably politically motivated - unrealistic speed limts, stronger emphasis should be put on speed limits setting standards and expectations for drivers, rather than calling for speed limits which drivers will respect. Drivers are not the only problem but they are the bulk of it, are all-too-often self-centred & inward-looking, and many simply do not have the skills and discipline necessary to make & take a proper judgement in the best interests of all road users. The driver is not necessarily the best & right person to decide
2. Government's intention to remove/reduce the requirement for 20mph speed limits to have at least some degree of self-enforcement through traffic calming will prove a serious error
3. Schools are - understandably - an emotive issue and need to be considered but, by-and-large, roads which pass them are not where the accidents are happening. The presence of a school should only be part of the consideration for a 20mph speed limit. Outside schools is not the only place where pupils cross the road on their way to/from school
4. It's high time that drivers were required & expected to carry a higher degree of personal responsibility for the safety of child pedestrians & cyclists. Drivers have a duty to observe & anticipate, and we need to throw out the assumption that if a child runs out into the road & is knocked down then it's the child's fault. This needs a big culture change, sustained re-education & publicity, & some tough Court decisions.

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orla nutting, Worcester says...
7:51pm Fri 29 Jan 10

Quite agree with jb. Speed humps are dangerous to car suspensions and tyres and should be abolished...they create more danger than they seek to limit.
Who manages to do more than 20mph down Wylds Rd?...it's a nightmare to navigate at the best of times.

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shonee, worcester says...
10:41pm Fri 29 Jan 10

I actually work on the trading estate off vincent road & I have to say I never do more than 20mph because of all the cars parked on the street & a large number parked illegally (mainly by people too tight to pay for parking in the city centre). Many times we have called the police to deal with the parking problem has it hinders deliveries for our Company but to no avail!!!! Perhaps deal with these issues first & only allow parking for residents only!! As for the school children you will get that problem everywhere & as they get older their road sense gets worse. All the new traffic lights installed by CWLC in St Johns were installed for the safety of the children!!! Well thats a joke. It's like dodge ball!!!! Oh & whilst I'm on a rant ....... try driving along Malvern Road at school time. Utter chaos.!!!!

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Biggles, Worcester says...
11:29pm Fri 29 Jan 10

I want to win the lottery, will that make the evening news ?

I don't really care what the rersidents want, a 20 mph limit wont make any difference, I doubt most traffic exceeds that in those locations anyway.

What "I" DON'T WANT are speed bumps, teach your poxy kids to cross the road.

Those bumps ruin our cars, cause us to use more fuel etc, so it seems starnge the green party would be aligned with that.

When will people realise they may own the property, the road is public ?

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PAT TINTON, Worcester says...
2:22pm Tue 2 Feb 10

We have a 20mph speed limit in the Arboretum. The worst offenders are taxis. Can we have the law enforced here please...form-face

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PAT TINTON, Worcester says...
3:20pm Tue 2 Feb 10

What does form face mean?

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topspin, Worcester says...
10:09pm Tue 2 Feb 10

Kids do get taught road safety, but these are kids we're talking about and they don't always do what they're told. Hence, the need for 20 mph zones by all schools in Worcester. There are already some, such as by Nunnery Wood, so why not all.
Speed bumps and other traffic calming measures ideally shouldn't be needed, but as many people ignore the signs, they are often used to ensure drivers slow down.
If less people drove their children to school, it would be safer for children to walk and cycle.

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pafcscotty, Worcester says...
11:50am Wed 3 Feb 10

I totally agree with JB. Teach the children better road safety and don't blame the car driver.

Oh and stop the locals from parking on double yellow lines, too close to junctions and on the pavements...

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rgdudley, Worcester says...
1:51pm Wed 3 Feb 10

As ever it's people who won't take responsibility for their own actions complaining about others.
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If the parents didn't drive kids to school, parents didn't park on the zig-zag lines, locals didn't park all over the place, children took care crossing the road, and the drivers went along at a sensible speed, there would be no problem and no need for bumps.
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Which category are you in, and what are you going to do about it?

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pafcscotty, Worcester says...
9:26am Thu 4 Feb 10

...also you have to wonder what question was asked in the survey.

Considering it was the Green Party I'd expect the question to be:

Would you like to see (a) your children live and a 20mph zone, or (b) your children die as they are hit by an evil car driver who was probably going far faster than the 30mph limit.

The survey is absolutely pointless unless we know what was asked and what options were given.

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Louis Stephen, Worcester says...
3:33pm Sun 7 Feb 10

pafcscotty raises a fair point - to know what was the question asked?

It was a very simple two part question:

1) Would you like to have a 20 mph speed restriction in this street consisting of a simple 20 mph sign at each end of the street?

If they wanted a 20 mph street -

2) Would you like / would you support speed bumps to enforce the speed limit?

So no spin no emotional blackmail.

The Green Party would like to make most residential streets into 20 mph zones. Do you remember when we were kids we walked, cycled and played outside. Making our residential areas that bit safer by reducing traffic speed is a small part of recreating our communities and a safer more pleasant place to live. Busy trunk roads eg say Bath Road or City Walls Road of course should remain 30 mph - I'm a car driver too.

Cheers

Louis

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it's_true, St John says...
9:13am Thu 11 Feb 10

This survey seems very valid and it would be very good if we could make our roads safe enough to let our children on to them without having to fear for their lives!

I wonder what planet pafcscotty and others are living on? Their cars are more important then children? I hope I haven't read that right, or are they honestly suggesting that they'd rather risk children being knocked down by cars then slowing down their cars in order to make roads safer?
Maybe they should stop and think again on what they said here...

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