Rescue package for Brown's? (From Worcester News)

Oh well. I used to like Browns.

Yippee.. thoughts of Sin by the River, Sin in the Fountains, have a Sinful 2 for 1 students - closer to stagger back to halls and at least you can vomit over the rails and feed the swans and fish. On the other hand, positively hope it brings employment back to these establishments but worry about the local elderly residents who have enjoyed the relative peace of a nice restaurant.

Didn’t think it would be long before someone saw the potential of this place. Sounds very interesting and rather high class deals with moet?! Who said there wasn’t some money sploshing about in Worcester eh.lol. Good luck with the new venture, if it shows anything, its that Worcester is and still remains a great place for business and leisure. Regardless of what the moaners may say ;- )

Ps Hamilton, im not sure if things have changed since my days as a student, but I dont think a champagne bar is aimed at students.

I think you'll find that as things stand -this is simply not the case. Perhaps your reporter should contact the administrator dealing with Browns or indeed the owners of Quay to check this story rather than being the mouthpiece for specific interested parties - let's see...

Fog Based Japery wrote:
Oh well. I used to like Browns.

Quite.

MrStJohns. First of all, let's wait and see if the Pinches brothers have actually done the deal, and secondly, in my day, as a student we could only afford half a pint, which we tried to make last as long as possible. Spirits and champagne were way out of our pocket. However, times have drastically changed and spirits/champagne are now readily available and apparently affordable by everyone. In these days of austerity one needs innovative ideas and hopefully this will be one of those so long as it is a quality establishment and tastefully run.

Totally agree Hamilton, as per my original post great that there is so much interest in this site and it looks set to be a high end venue, but as you rightly say, best to see what its like when open. But it seems OmbersleyLocal above knows more than anyone including the WN ;-)

Like or loathe the plans - the Pinches Brothers have a record of successful businesses behind them. I wish them good luck. Any person looking to invest with today's economic climate should be applauded.

"...worry about the local elderly residents who have enjoyed the relative peace of a nice restaurant". Hamilton60, who are these elderly people and where exactly do they live? Browns is not in the middle of a housing estate, in fact it's fairly isolated when it comes to residential accomodation. Unless you think the swans on the river are going to be upset...

WOW!! How exciting for us all in Worcs- Happy Happy Happy, at least we know if the brothers do get it (I for one hope so) we are assured it will be exquisite and very stylish, the food will be of a high quality and affordable and it will be a happy, professional work place for the staff ...why I hear you ask?...because they know how to run a business!!!
Worcester so needs a place with proper class...I can't wait for it to re-open....HOPEFULLY with the Pinches at the helm!!!
They have my support all the way!!!
Good Luck guys :-) :-)

a very clever move by the pinches'. I agree that any businessman who is thriving in this economy deserves support. lets hope they do get it. keep the students in sin though please :-)

Rosey of Worcs wrote:
WOW!! How exciting for us all in Worcs- Happy Happy Happy, at least we know if the brothers do get it (I for one hope so) we are assured it will be exquisite and very stylish, the food will be of a high quality and affordable and it will be a happy, professional work place for the staff ...why I hear you ask?...because they know how to run a business!!!
Worcester so needs a place with proper class...I can't wait for it to re-open....HOPEFULLY with the Pinches at the helm!!!
They have my support all the way!!!
Good Luck guys :-) :-)

Yes I'm often struck by the exquisite and stylish nature of Sin and it's clientele.

CJH wrote:
"...worry about the local elderly residents who have enjoyed the relative peace of a nice restaurant". Hamilton60, who are these elderly people and where exactly do they live? Browns is not in the middle of a housing estate, in fact it's fairly isolated when it comes to residential accomodation. Unless you think the swans on the river are going to be upset...

Its next door to a sheltered housing scheme, Warmstry Court. They already have problems down there at South Quay with kids taking drugs/alcohol. They are an ongoing nuisence for the scheme. Should make for an interesting mix, kids smoking spliffs and drinking white lightening, having people walking by sipping champagne.

Fog Based Japery wrote:

Rosey of Worcs wrote: WOW!! How exciting for us all in Worcs- Happy Happy Happy, at least we know if the brothers do get it (I for one hope so) we are assured it will be exquisite and very stylish, the food will be of a high quality and affordable and it will be a happy, professional work place for the staff ...why I hear you ask?...because they know how to run a business!!! Worcester so needs a place with proper class...I can't wait for it to re-open....HOPEFULLY with the Pinches at the helm!!! They have my support all the way!!! Good Luck guys :-) :-)

Yes I'm often struck by the exquisite and stylish nature of Sin and it's clientele.

@ "Fog Based reader"...Have you even read the editorial...if so why are you even likening it to Sin???

hopefully this won't be another over priced place to eat like it was before. i'd like to see 2 4 1 on main courses and a sunday carvery. i know most of the food snobs in worcester won't be happy unless they are paying over £14 a main course. the majority of people don't want this!! let local businesses follow asda's suit and make the city centre more accessible for the average joe. how can places like "browns/bindles/bush
wackers/ostlers etc" expect you to pay £15plus for a steak when you can get one for £4.50 if you are dining 2 4 1 (i.e. the barn owl - top place by the way! food is very fresh and the best pea's ive had for a long time)??? Sheer madness. fizzy wine by the river - no thanks not for me and my friends, weatherspoons would be more suited, as yet again the majority of worcester wont want to pay £4plus a drink.

worcesterinsider wrote:
hopefully this won't be another over priced place to eat like it was before. i'd like to see 2 4 1 on main courses and a sunday carvery. i know most of the food snobs in worcester won't be happy unless they are paying over £14 a main course. the majority of people don't want this!! let local businesses follow asda's suit and make the city centre more accessible for the average joe. how can places like "browns/bindles
/bush wackers/ostlers etc" expect you to pay £15plus for a steak when you can get one for £4.50 if you are dining 2 4 1 (i.e. the barn owl - top place by the way! food is very fresh and the best pea's ive had for a long time)??? Sheer madness. fizzy wine by the river - no thanks not for me and my friends, weatherspoons would be more suited, as yet again the majority of worcester wont want to pay £4plus a drink.

Now im no food snob, but I think you’re a little naïve, the reason the ‘steak’ in wetherspoons is that price is because its sourced from south America and generally taken from a bovine descendant called zebu, while a steak that you deem as expensive will have been slow reared on high quality feeds and locally sourced. As mentioned above im not a snob, but you sound just a little daft to think you get the same product for £4.50 as you do £15+ (obviously the information about wetherspoons isnt my own but is taken from the internet and freely available for others to read, iv just used it to explain a point). Just to further enlighten you cities are places where people of all types and wealth live, so places like the barn own are great for those on a tighter budget(like me) but for those with more expendable income places such as bindles, ostlers etc provide.

MrStJohns wrote:

worcesterinsider wrote:
hopefully this won't be another over priced place to eat like it was before. i'd like to see 2 4 1 on main courses and a sunday carvery. i know most of the food snobs in worcester won't be happy unless they are paying over £14 a main course. the majority of people don't want this!! let local businesses follow asda's suit and make the city centre more accessible for the average joe. how can places like "browns/bindles

/bush wackers/ostlers etc" expect you to pay £15plus for a steak when you can get one for £4.50 if you are dining 2 4 1 (i.e. the barn owl - top place by the way! food is very fresh and the best pea's ive had for a long time)??? Sheer madness. fizzy wine by the river - no thanks not for me and my friends, weatherspoons would be more suited, as yet again the majority of worcester wont want to pay £4plus a drink.

Now im no food snob, but I think you’re a little naïve, the reason the ‘steak’ in wetherspoons is that price is because its sourced from south America and generally taken from a bovine descendant called zebu, while a steak that you deem as expensive will have been slow reared on high quality feeds and locally sourced. As mentioned above im not a snob, but you sound just a little daft to think you get the same product for £4.50 as you do £15+ (obviously the information about wetherspoons isnt my own but is taken from the internet and freely available for others to read, iv just used it to explain a point). Just to further enlighten you cities are places where people of all types and wealth live, so places like the barn own are great for those on a tighter budget(like me) but for those with more expendable income places such as bindles, ostlers etc provide.

thank you so much for such a enlightening lesson. in reference to cities are places where all classes of wealth live, then i think you are wrong. i would say the majoirty of people couldnt afford to live with in the city "walls". this is why i am saying maybe businesses should follow suit and be like asda, promoting cheaper products for those wanting to gain access to the city centre. in reagrds to the steak, yes your reserach may show weatherpsoons buys this strange meat you talk about., but i really don't think places like the barn owl would do this. I was chatting with one of the managers and he assured me the majority of stuff was homemade to ensure maximum freshness.

worcesterinsider, Im sure the manager of the barn owl is telling you the truth, iv never been so I cant comment.
Hmm you seem to do a lot of thinking but there isnt much in your post that could be called fact. So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy), most of Worcester’s gentrified/expensive areas are well outside of the city walls, battenhall, barbourne etc are some distance from the original city walls which extended approximately to where foregate station bridge now is and along down into Sidbury where the glass house was. Obviously history isn’t a strong point of yours either if you wish to learn more please let me know (im always happy to help). As for gaining access to the city centre last time I checked this was free and you will also find establishments like greggs etc for your noshing pleasure, then those that want to spend a little more can and everyone’s happy.

MrStJohns wrote:
worcesterinsider, Im sure the manager of the barn owl is telling you the truth, iv never been so I cant comment.
Hmm you seem to do a lot of thinking but there isnt much in your post that could be called fact. So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy), most of Worcester’s gentrified/expensive areas are well outside of the city walls, battenhall, barbourne etc are some distance from the original city walls which extended approximately to where foregate station bridge now is and along down into Sidbury where the glass house was. Obviously history isn’t a strong point of yours either if you wish to learn more please let me know (im always happy to help). As for gaining access to the city centre last time I checked this was free and you will also find establishments like greggs etc for your noshing pleasure, then those that want to spend a little more can and everyone’s happy.

Obviously as grammar and punctuation aren't strong points of yours, I'll go easy.
You have proved to be some what (I'll go easily on you here) "A jumped up snob", who knows nothing of social divides and that quite frankly those at the bottom "rung" of the ladder could possibly be far more educated than your self. In regards to my comments on "The Barn Owl", you have provided just the response I would expect from some body on. All of post's were poorly written, so you could jump to the conclusion of and I quote "So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy)". If we are going to make statements of fact, like you said my last post was lacking, then it seems you are the poorly educated, narrow minded fool. Have a fantastic day :)

You called? ...The Snob is back...

I had to laugh at the prospect of a champagne bar having 2-4-1 meals and a carvery. I can see the elite of Worcester, sitting down, after a hard day of business, buying, selling, SELL HIGH, BUY LOW!

''Lovely champagne Dominic isnt it?''

''Yes Bertie but not the biggest Moet fan, far too many bubbles for my liking but its nice to have somewhere to go where i can enjoy a glass of champagne by the river now that it looks so wonderful after its extensive refurbishment. ''

''Yes, well i wouldnt say its something thats needed in Worcester, but why not hey?? Rather here than Hereford''

''Bloody Hereford''

''Yeah and main meals 2-4-1 and a carvery at £2.67 you really cant go wrong can you?''

some thing about that doesnt seem right does it?

ok folks lets put carverys on every street corner, lets put them in shopping malls, lets put them on roundabouts, lets install them into various aisles of big shops so that way, we wont have to waddle much more than 20 meters without a lovely carvery to fill our troughs. now we can really set off the maggie gravy, mash pellets, heat lamp dried beef and pork, 'crunchy' vegetables that have had all remaining nutrients sucked out of them into the water, then the water thrown away with a glass of champagne, after all its the ultimate pairing. lets celebrate this obscenely poor way of serving food by suggesting every new venture in worcester, no matter how ambitious and far from the carvery market, should have a carvery installed into it.


seriously people, you lot make laugh so much. whoever writes your parody style comments is a genius. hilarious. carvery?? two for one?? under an article about a champagne bar?? you couldnt make it up!! Your level of knowledge of how restaurants and kitchens operate is hilariously little. i love you guys so much, you make me laugh, so well done you!

if you hadnt noticed on your frequent visits to the other side of the river MrStJohns, there is elderly persons housing opposite the small browns carpark. you could walk there in under 10 seconds from Browns front door.





The Pinches-as we can see from the girl's comment about how excited she is about this, you clearly read these comments. i hope you have laughed at much as i have and not sweated too much over not getting business because people want to rename Worcester CarveryLand (TM) and im sure you have enough sense to take absolutely no comments from people who will merely slate your venture for being normally priced as opposed to actually going there.

This Snob (im giving myself a capital letter now, because i can) will see you at the bar. Im taking it you will have magnums and jeroboams? I look forward to re-enacting my nights out in Cafe De Paris (St Tropez) by the river in Worcester. Bottoms up folks!

worcesterinsider wrote:

MrStJohns wrote: worcesterinsider, Im sure the manager of the barn owl is telling you the truth, iv never been so I cant comment. Hmm you seem to do a lot of thinking but there isnt much in your post that could be called fact. So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy), most of Worcester’s gentrified/expensive areas are well outside of the city walls, battenhall, barbourne etc are some distance from the original city walls which extended approximately to where foregate station bridge now is and along down into Sidbury where the glass house was. Obviously history isn’t a strong point of yours either if you wish to learn more please let me know (im always happy to help). As for gaining access to the city centre last time I checked this was free and you will also find establishments like greggs etc for your noshing pleasure, then those that want to spend a little more can and everyone’s happy.

Obviously as grammar and punctuation aren't strong points of yours, I'll go easy. You have proved to be some what (I'll go easily on you here) "A jumped up snob", who knows nothing of social divides and that quite frankly those at the bottom "rung" of the ladder could possibly be far more educated than your self. In regards to my comments on "The Barn Owl", you have provided just the response I would expect from some body on. All of post's were poorly written, so you could jump to the conclusion of and I quote "So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy)". If we are going to make statements of fact, like you said my last post was lacking, then it seems you are the poorly educated, narrow minded fool. Have a fantastic day :)

Cage=rattled, happy days my friendly socialist might see you in greggs some day. But for now I think its pimms o clock toodle pip.

Hmm, this thread is turning a bit tedious.

Regardless of my opinion of the Pinches how can one argue that Worcester needs a glut of cheap, low-end eateries. Perhaps we should have a high street of charity shops also?

Worcester needs a mix of restaurants for all budgets and tastes. This will help us to grow and be a city of choice for business, students etc

Whilst I couldn't afford Brown's and Ostlers is a treat, I think we have enough Wetherspoon's and Barn Owls at the moment.

MrStJohns wrote:

worcesterinsider wrote:

MrStJohns wrote: worcesterinsider, Im sure the manager of the barn owl is telling you the truth, iv never been so I cant comment. Hmm you seem to do a lot of thinking but there isnt much in your post that could be called fact. So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy), most of Worcester’s gentrified/expensive areas are well outside of the city walls, battenhall, barbourne etc are some distance from the original city walls which extended approximately to where foregate station bridge now is and along down into Sidbury where the glass house was. Obviously history isn’t a strong point of yours either if you wish to learn more please let me know (im always happy to help). As for gaining access to the city centre last time I checked this was free and you will also find establishments like greggs etc for your noshing pleasure, then those that want to spend a little more can and everyone’s happy.

Obviously as grammar and punctuation aren't strong points of yours, I'll go easy. You have proved to be some what (I'll go easily on you here) "A jumped up snob", who knows nothing of social divides and that quite frankly those at the bottom "rung" of the ladder could possibly be far more educated than your self. In regards to my comments on "The Barn Owl", you have provided just the response I would expect from some body on. All of post's were poorly written, so you could jump to the conclusion of and I quote "So im still under the impression you may be abit under educated (so il go easy)". If we are going to make statements of fact, like you said my last post was lacking, then it seems you are the poorly educated, narrow minded fool. Have a fantastic day :)

Cage=rattled, happy days my friendly socialist might see you in greggs some day. But for now I think its pimms o clock toodle pip.

To be frank, I'm not the uneducated scum bag you think I am. Any how, enough of this tittle tattle, I do actually quite like you MrStJohns, how about you bring the pimms and I'll borrow my parents croquet set.

Bud I can tell your not an uneducated scum bag (that’s my end of the world) its all in good fun :- ). For sure, il get my gingham table cloth packed stock the wicker picnic basket get jeeves to warm the rolls up and il be round for a game of croquet.

MrStJohns, given your unusually slow response, I take it you are little unsure on croquet. It is a game that takes places upon a lawn, played by those of an upper class, so I'm guessing your not who you really think you are.

worcesterinsider wrote:
MrStJohns, given your unusually slow response, I take it you are little unsure on croquet. It is a game that takes places upon a lawn, played by those of an upper class, so I'm guessing your not who you really think you are.

What so I cant bring my supersoaker?!!

Could the Bank of England lend some of the hundreds of billions it is printing out for its banker mates to Browns?

The Kop wrote:

CJH wrote: "...worry about the local elderly residents who have enjoyed the relative peace of a nice restaurant". Hamilton60, who are these elderly people and where exactly do they live? Browns is not in the middle of a housing estate, in fact it's fairly isolated when it comes to residential accomodation. Unless you think the swans on the river are going to be upset...

Its next door to a sheltered housing scheme, Warmstry Court. They already have problems down there at South Quay with kids taking drugs/alcohol. They are an ongoing nuisence for the scheme. Should make for an interesting mix, kids smoking spliffs and drinking white lightening, having people walking by sipping champagne.

There are only 12 flats there, and as the tech and Brown's were there way before they were, I think they will be used to noise and disturbance. Probably glad to see a bit of life apart from the wildlife on the river...

caselogic wrote:
You called? ...The Snob is back... I had to laugh at the prospect of a champagne bar having 2-4-1 meals and a carvery. I can see the elite of Worcester, sitting down, after a hard day of business, buying, selling, SELL HIGH, BUY LOW! ''Lovely champagne Dominic isnt it?'' ''Yes Bertie but not the biggest Moet fan, far too many bubbles for my liking but its nice to have somewhere to go where i can enjoy a glass of champagne by the river now that it looks so wonderful after its extensive refurbishment. '' ''Yes, well i wouldnt say its something thats needed in Worcester, but why not hey?? Rather here than Hereford'' ''Bloody Hereford'' ''Yeah and main meals 2-4-1 and a carvery at £2.67 you really cant go wrong can you?'' some thing about that doesnt seem right does it? ok folks lets put carverys on every street corner, lets put them in shopping malls, lets put them on roundabouts, lets install them into various aisles of big shops so that way, we wont have to waddle much more than 20 meters without a lovely carvery to fill our troughs. now we can really set off the maggie gravy, mash pellets, heat lamp dried beef and pork, 'crunchy' vegetables that have had all remaining nutrients sucked out of them into the water, then the water thrown away with a glass of champagne, after all its the ultimate pairing. lets celebrate this obscenely poor way of serving food by suggesting every new venture in worcester, no matter how ambitious and far from the carvery market, should have a carvery installed into it. seriously people, you lot make laugh so much. whoever writes your parody style comments is a genius. hilarious. carvery?? two for one?? under an article about a champagne bar?? you couldnt make it up!! Your level of knowledge of how restaurants and kitchens operate is hilariously little. i love you guys so much, you make me laugh, so well done you! if you hadnt noticed on your frequent visits to the other side of the river MrStJohns, there is elderly persons housing opposite the small browns carpark. you could walk there in under 10 seconds from Browns front door. The Pinches-as we can see from the girl's comment about how excited she is about this, you clearly read these comments. i hope you have laughed at much as i have and not sweated too much over not getting business because people want to rename Worcester CarveryLand (TM) and im sure you have enough sense to take absolutely no comments from people who will merely slate your venture for being normally priced as opposed to actually going there. This Snob (im giving myself a capital letter now, because i can) will see you at the bar. Im taking it you will have magnums and jeroboams? I look forward to re-enacting my nights out in Cafe De Paris (St Tropez) by the river in Worcester. Bottoms up folks!

PLEASE not another bl@@dy carvery or 2-4-1 joint. And the Barn Owl is, putting it politely, mediocre although not as bad as the Copcut Elm. Good luck to the Pinches, I look forward to sipping a chilled flute of Verve Cliquot by the river in the not too distant future. Happy days ;)

Rosey of Worcs wrote:
WOW!! How exciting for us all in Worcs- Happy Happy Happy, at least we know if the brothers do get it (I for one hope so) we are assured it will be exquisite and very stylish, the food will be of a high quality and affordable and it will be a happy, professional work place for the staff ...why I hear you ask?...because they know how to run a business!!!
Worcester so needs a place with proper class...I can't wait for it to re-open....HOPEFULLY with the Pinches at the helm!!!
They have my support all the way!!!
Good Luck guys :-) :-)

You are Darren Pinches and I claim my £10

So it will be another sin/bushwackers for local people that fit in the 18-25 age bracket, who are regulars and who are not fat or too thin, don't look like drug dealers and are not single as they won't allow single women or blokes in......
Sounds an amazing place NOT!!!!!
If the the past of bushwackers/sin is gonna be the sane for this place then expect it to close within the year.

Don't tell me, the fountains won't be policed by the bouncers after 8.00pm because they will be too busy feeding the ducks... Or beating up the Swans... In self defence of course!

Oh dear this is all a bit boring isn't it ? Whomever manages to lease the site I hope that it will be well managed with facilities/food for all ages (including the nearby elderly residents) perhaps they could be invited to the reopening.
One wonders if the Ombersleyresident has insider knowledge from the previous owners of Browns? No doubt the Evertons or administrators for them just trying to get on and sort things out the sooner the better.
I would not like particularly cheap and cheerful however if you are paying a decent price I hope that this time one will get value for money together with a good atmosphere which was somewhat lacking previously.

I believe most part of comments here were written by people not knowing "The Pinches".
I believe their vision for the venue is not alike Sin's. Not even close.
And checking the lunch time buffet at Bushwackers on a normal day will give a better idea.
Speculating about prices & vomit is just to much blah blah blah.

BRING BACK HONKY FLETCHERS

The Doosra wrote:

Rosey of Worcs wrote: WOW!! How exciting for us all in Worcs- Happy Happy Happy, at least we know if the brothers do get it (I for one hope so) we are assured it will be exquisite and very stylish, the food will be of a high quality and affordable and it will be a happy, professional work place for the staff ...why I hear you ask?...because they know how to run a business!!! Worcester so needs a place with proper class...I can't wait for it to re-open....HOPEFULLY with the Pinches at the helm!!! They have my support all the way!!! Good Luck guys :-) :-)

You are Darren Pinches and I claim my £10

LOL....wrong....so sorry - no £10 coming your way....and to all these moaners on here, get a life and be happy that the building won't be boarded up and left dormant, it can only be a good thing :-) I'm sure half of you haven't even read and understood the editorial? why liken it to the two other venues they own?....as I said - if the boys get it GOOD LUCK TO THEM, it can only be a good thing!!!
Oh and as for a Carvery?? Please!!! have you even been inside the building???
CHEERS.. :-)

“What we’ve done is(basically signed a short 7 year\lease for an undisclosed fee??)which as taken the ‘front’ of Brown’s, and we’ve got all the outside seating there through our deal on The Quay now....then stick a cheeky bid in for the freehold on browns...which i would suggest be of lot less value now for another operator as the frontage of which would be operated by your main competiton next door...nice bit of business...
Pass me a jeroboam of moet and one of those pre packed jam doughnuts.(ide make me own guys).ill pass on the carvery...
good luck to all..

I can't believe people actually think the Barn Owl is 'fresh!' It's freezer food, learn to cook and you'll be able to see/taste the difference!

If indeed a lease has been signed on the Quay and if indeed the outside space was not part of the Brown's freehold sale that would have been a potentially smart move. The confirmed stance from the administrator is that the latter point is not the case ie the outside.
Unfortunately the journalist appears not to have checked the 'ifs'...I'm sure the facts will emerge this week. Smart investors looking at this won't be detracted by this one sided approach. I doubt it will influence the market for these properties. That said will the journalist issue an apology if things turn out completely different to his article? I think I know the answer...

I personally wouldn't go to Bushwackers in the evening as it is not my kind of place but the food in the day is excellent so there is no reason to suppose that an upmarket venue operated by the Pinches will be anything but good. They are not aiming at the same clientele as some of their other venues.

moonpig wrote:
I personally wouldn't go to Bushwackers in the evening as it is not my kind of place but the food in the day is excellent so there is no reason to suppose that an upmarket venue operated by the Pinches will be anything but good. They are not aiming at the same clientele as some of their other venues.

And that's it. Full stop.