Killer of two PCs should be sentenced to death

SHOCK: Inspector Kevin Mackaill. SHOCK: Inspector Kevin Mackaill.

A police inspector in Worcestershire has said those who murder police officers should be executed as the country mourns the deaths of two officers gunned down in the line of duty.

Inspector Ken Mackaill, chairman of the West Mercia Police Federation which is based in Hampton Lovett, near Droitwich, spoke yesterday about the shock and anger of police officers following the murder of PCs Fiona Bone and Nicola Hughes in Hattersley, Greater Manchester.

Inspector Mackaill said he did not back the routine arming of all police officers, but endorsed the death penalty for those who murder police officers. This is also the official position of the Police Federation, a staff association for all police constables, sergeants, inspectors and chief inspectors, nationally.

The pair were killed in a gun and grenade attack on Tuesday after being lured to a house by a bogus 999 call about a burglary.

Insp Mackaill said: “Of course the feeling is absolute shock and sadness at the murder of two officers and, when the full circumstances or more detail became apparent, they have been lured into a trap specifically to be killed. I just felt sickening disbelief. “That has opened a wider debate on the routine arming of police officers. My view on that is that it isn’t a route we should go down. I think there are risks associated with that. We do have officers who are routinely armed, but that is not all officers. I think the level of arming we have is sufficient.”

At the moment, most police officers in the UK have personal protective equipment such as stab vests and batons, handcuffs and CS spray.

Insp Mackaill said: “This is an absolutely sickening murder of two police officers who appear to have been lured to their deaths and killed, simply because they are police officers. In my opinion that does justify the death penalty. It highlights the risk that all police officers face.”

PC Richard Gray, a trained firearms officer at West Mercia Police, was gunned down and killed while attending a domestic dispute in May 2007. Insp Mackaill said: “It is only five years ago that Richard Gray was shot dead. Officers are always conscious of the risk, but we can’t have it in the forefront of our minds or it would make the job impossible. “This does galvanise officers because we are a very tight knit family with colleagues not just locally but also nationally affected by this.”

Insp Mackaill said that he would watch with interest the outcome of the inquiry and the conclusions drawn by Greater Manchester Police and any changes in the working practices of police. He said arming more officers with tasers may be a step forward.

Comments(24)

Vox Rationis says...
3:49pm Fri 21 Sep 12

It was a shocking and despicable act without any doubt, but why should the death penalty be reserved solely for murders of police officers?

What if it had been firemen or paramedics lured to a hoax incident and shot in cold blood? Or any other innocent civilian for that matter? Would the taking of their life be any less despicable?

Whether or not the death penalty should be brought back at all is a whole other issue, but I don't think you can place a higher value on the life of one person based on their occupation.

blueworcs says...
5:47pm Fri 21 Sep 12

Unfortunately the Death penalty will never be re-instated in this country due to our never ending fear of upsetting criminals and their Lawyers who would approach The Human Rights Brigade who in turn would blame the victim and Sue the relatives for the distress caused to their client......

Jabbadad says...
6:11pm Fri 21 Sep 12

But we could have Life to mean Life, that is where the law is so wrong. Particularly when the length of sentence is so affected by smarta..s lawyers. Those who can afford them seem to have different sentences than those who can't.

whiskymac106 says...
7:44pm Fri 21 Sep 12

If anyone can see the point in paying to keep such a person alive for the rest of his life after such a vile act - please explain. It's not about revenge it's about the worthless existence of such a person who can cause such anguish and at the same time add nothing to society.

lizzyloolah says...
8:25pm Fri 21 Sep 12

Ian Brady wants to die. He has wanted to die for a long time now. He has been bed ridden and force fed for years. His life must be a living hell. I hope he lives for ever. Sick b*****d.

katiekins says...
9:36pm Fri 21 Sep 12

lizzyloolah wrote:
Ian Brady wants to die. He has wanted to die for a long time now. He has been bed ridden and force fed for years. His life must be a living hell. I hope he lives for ever. Sick b*****d.
TOTALLY AGREE........

andrew151 says...
10:27pm Fri 21 Sep 12

i think the death penalty should brought back for cold dallous murder irespect of who or was person(s) murdered with dna available now it should take much to covict the killer(s) for this type of crime committed in cols blood an eye for an eye if the dna proves the crime so bi itthey must take the punishment if they cannot take the consequess of their action in committing the crime

andrew151 says...
10:39pm Fri 21 Sep 12

i meant callous not dallous murder DNA is there and canoot be argued with ialso agree with the police inspector as to what he had said, my heart and thought to all concerend may they rest in peace kowing that things will change to somehow stop this from happening again,my they rest in peace now,gob blees them both ****

andrew151 says...
10:43pm Fri 21 Sep 12

sorry for any spelling mistake i am a little tired god bless both of them my thought are with the families of these police officers

Jabbadad says...
12:21am Sat 22 Sep 12

Although I too have strong feelings for the return of the death penalty, since of course that is what they have committed against the frequently innocent victims, but if it were life and then IF it was without any doubt discovered by factual evidence that they were innocent then they could at least be released and compensation etc paid, and although you could never replace the months, years lost while in prison, this would be better than death, and would stop the do-gooders from claiming to turn the other cheek as they say..
I understand the deterrent view over police who have to put themselves in dangerous situations, but a life taken is a life taken, and their life is of no more value than anyone's.
I also strongly believe that drivers who kill someone should never drive again even after serving a prison sentence.

Vox Rationis says...
9:44am Sat 22 Sep 12

Jabbadad wrote:
Although I too have strong feelings for the return of the death penalty, since of course that is what they have committed against the frequently innocent victims, but if it were life and then IF it was without any doubt discovered by factual evidence that they were innocent then they could at least be released and compensation etc paid, and although you could never replace the months, years lost while in prison, this would be better than death, and would stop the do-gooders from claiming to turn the other cheek as they say..
I understand the deterrent view over police who have to put themselves in dangerous situations, but a life taken is a life taken, and their life is of no more value than anyone's.
I also strongly believe that drivers who kill someone should never drive again even after serving a prison sentence.
Re: Drivers who kil someone: Indeed the 'punishment' handed down for some driving related deaths are derisable. People need to realise they are in control of a couple of tons of steel moving at great speed and the consequences when they lose control of it. A small fine or a few hours of community service in some cases for taking a life is an insult to the families of the victims.

pronstar says...
10:58am Sat 22 Sep 12

"A police inspector in Worcestershire has said those who murder police officers should be executed as the country mourns the deaths of two officers gunned down in the line of duty"

What about when police officers murder members of the public? For example, Ian Tomlinson's killer is still a free man, albeit now jobless. I think he should be executed.

mayall8808 says...
3:11pm Sat 22 Sep 12

I support bringing back the death penalty, for all who kill, always have and with the technology now there can be almost no dispute.
I also think it would cut down the amount of gangland crime and the use of weapons for other purposes,
such as terrorism,,it's about time the government of this country and i don't mean just this one all of them have shown no guts at all to bring it back.

andrew151 says...
9:41pm Sat 22 Sep 12

i agree with you mayall8808, it is about time we had a decent government that shows some guts and determination to stand up and say this has got stop as well as listen to the people who voted

Maggie Would says...
2:44pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Fortunately, the people commenting on this thread are in no position to bring back the death penalty.
Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives.
I am grateful for that.

ushmush83 says...
3:54pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Sometimes I am truly astonished by people's barbarity! While I believe the justice system is a little naive, the sentences often too soft and the prisons a bit too accommodating, I could never endorse an execution.

To take a persons life, to feel and see the end of an existence, is a truly horrible thing. Why anyone would want this is beyond my comprehension. For anyone that believes in this, just think about being the one responsible for taking the life of the convicted. Could you really do that? What about the chaplain, councillor or lawyer involved in the never ending process of befriending and compassion before witnessing the passing of life?

I sincerely hope this guy never walks the streets again, but I do not wish death upon him.

Jabbadad says...
4:30pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Well you two ladies, I am also sorry that with opinions which also appear on this thread, it seems that someones life taken by another is only to be punished by Jail for 12 years and less. How forgiving can you be, and no I am not calling for the return of the death penalty, but must say that when we hear and read of all the mistakes made over the death penalty, I have to ask WHICH ALL MISTAKES. Just balance those minimal mistakes with the amount of lives taken, not given, and still remain holier than me.

Jeff Broad says...
5:36pm Mon 24 Sep 12

I think the case of Sally Clark is reason enough for not re-instating the death penalty. And for those who think that with technology there can be no excuse, then just think about Barry George, who would have been executed based on DNA evidence.

The Doosra says...
9:20pm Mon 24 Sep 12

mayall8808 wrote:
I support bringing back the death penalty, for all who kill, always have and with the technology now there can be almost no dispute.
I also think it would cut down the amount of gangland crime and the use of weapons for other purposes,
such as terrorism,,it's about time the government of this country and i don't mean just this one all of them have shown no guts at all to bring it back.
Of course there were no murders of any kind when we had the death penalty!

MJI says...
11:20pm Mon 24 Sep 12

DNA tsting is not infallible.
.
It is a checksum.

pinkfluff says...
10:56am Tue 25 Sep 12

Maggie Would wrote:
Fortunately, the people commenting on this thread are in no position to bring back the death penalty. Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives. I am grateful for that.
pinkfluff likes ^ this.

mayall8808 says...
11:43am Tue 25 Sep 12

So show remorse to the killer who has taken someones right to life and not show any respect to the living relatives then?
TheDoorsa, there were murders when we had the death penalty and there will be more too but the penalty of death should be there as a deterrent and if its 100% you kill someone then you know what the outcome will be.
Not as now a sentance which is usually an insult to justice.

Vox populi says...
12:50pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Maggie Would wrote:
Fortunately, the people commenting on this thread are in no position to bring back the death penalty. Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives. I am grateful for that.
Agreed!

Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human, and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter).

I think from some coments on here people need to meditate on premeditation...

The death penality is not a deterrent. America has proved this. 95% of murders are crimes of passion.

This case in question appears cold and calculated i.e. premeditated and is unusual which is why there has been so much shock and coverage but they are VERY rare. The death penality broadly applied as suggested in these posts would solve nothing or reduce nothing. This guy would have done what he did regardless of the outcome so why bring in the death penality based on this.

As mentioned above a lifetime of reflection in a cell or hard labour is a much more satisfactory solution. Death is an easy way out.

iamthebinman says...
7:46am Thu 27 Sep 12

"I sentence you to be hung, drawn and quartered at noon today!" Worth the Judge saying that just to wipe the arrogant smirk off his face! Then let him rot.

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