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Killer of two PCs should be sentenced to death (From Worcester News)
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Killer of two PCs should be sentenced to death
3:30pm Friday 21st September 2012 in News
By James Connell
SHOCK: Inspector Kevin Mackaill.
A police inspector in Worcestershire has said those who murder police officers should be executed as the country mourns the deaths of two officers gunned down in the line of duty.
Inspector Ken Mackaill, chairman of the West Mercia Police Federation which is based in Hampton Lovett, near Droitwich, spoke yesterday about the shock and anger of police officers following the murder of PCs Fiona Bone and Nicola Hughes in Hattersley, Greater Manchester.
Inspector Mackaill said he did not back the routine arming of all police officers, but endorsed the death penalty for those who murder police officers. This is also the official position of the Police Federation, a staff association for all police constables, sergeants, inspectors and chief inspectors, nationally.
The pair were killed in a gun and grenade attack on Tuesday after being lured to a house by a bogus 999 call about a burglary.
Insp Mackaill said: “Of course the feeling is absolute shock and sadness at the murder of two officers and, when the full circumstances or more detail became apparent, they have been lured into a trap specifically to be killed. I just felt sickening disbelief. “That has opened a wider debate on the routine arming of police officers. My view on that is that it isn’t a route we should go down. I think there are risks associated with that. We do have officers who are routinely armed, but that is not all officers. I think the level of arming we have is sufficient.”
At the moment, most police officers in the UK have personal protective equipment such as stab vests and batons, handcuffs and CS spray.
Insp Mackaill said: “This is an absolutely sickening murder of two police officers who appear to have been lured to their deaths and killed, simply because they are police officers. In my opinion that does justify the death penalty. It highlights the risk that all police officers face.”
PC Richard Gray, a trained firearms officer at West Mercia Police, was gunned down and killed while attending a domestic dispute in May 2007. Insp Mackaill said: “It is only five years ago that Richard Gray was shot dead. Officers are always conscious of the risk, but we can’t have it in the forefront of our minds or it would make the job impossible. “This does galvanise officers because we are a very tight knit family with colleagues not just locally but also nationally affected by this.”
Insp Mackaill said that he would watch with interest the outcome of the inquiry and the conclusions drawn by Greater Manchester Police and any changes in the working practices of police. He said arming more officers with tasers may be a step forward.
Comments(24)
Vox Rationis
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3:49pm Fri 21 Sep 12
What if it had been firemen or paramedics lured to a hoax incident and shot in cold blood? Or any other innocent civilian for that matter? Would the taking of their life be any less despicable?
Whether or not the death penalty should be brought back at all is a whole other issue, but I don't think you can place a higher value on the life of one person based on their occupation.
blueworcs
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5:47pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Jabbadad
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6:11pm Fri 21 Sep 12
whiskymac106
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7:44pm Fri 21 Sep 12
lizzyloolah
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8:25pm Fri 21 Sep 12
katiekins
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9:36pm Fri 21 Sep 12
lizzyloolah wrote:TOTALLY AGREE........
Ian Brady wants to die. He has wanted to die for a long time now. He has been bed ridden and force fed for years. His life must be a living hell. I hope he lives for ever. Sick b*****d.
andrew151
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10:27pm Fri 21 Sep 12
andrew151
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10:39pm Fri 21 Sep 12
andrew151
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10:43pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Jabbadad
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12:21am Sat 22 Sep 12
I understand the deterrent view over police who have to put themselves in dangerous situations, but a life taken is a life taken, and their life is of no more value than anyone's.
I also strongly believe that drivers who kill someone should never drive again even after serving a prison sentence.
Vox Rationis
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9:44am Sat 22 Sep 12
Jabbadad wrote:Re: Drivers who kil someone: Indeed the 'punishment' handed down for some driving related deaths are derisable. People need to realise they are in control of a couple of tons of steel moving at great speed and the consequences when they lose control of it. A small fine or a few hours of community service in some cases for taking a life is an insult to the families of the victims.
Although I too have strong feelings for the return of the death penalty, since of course that is what they have committed against the frequently innocent victims, but if it were life and then IF it was without any doubt discovered by factual evidence that they were innocent then they could at least be released and compensation etc paid, and although you could never replace the months, years lost while in prison, this would be better than death, and would stop the do-gooders from claiming to turn the other cheek as they say..
I understand the deterrent view over police who have to put themselves in dangerous situations, but a life taken is a life taken, and their life is of no more value than anyone's.
I also strongly believe that drivers who kill someone should never drive again even after serving a prison sentence.
pronstar
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10:58am Sat 22 Sep 12
What about when police officers murder members of the public? For example, Ian Tomlinson's killer is still a free man, albeit now jobless. I think he should be executed.
mayall8808
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3:11pm Sat 22 Sep 12
I also think it would cut down the amount of gangland crime and the use of weapons for other purposes,
such as terrorism,,it's about time the government of this country and i don't mean just this one all of them have shown no guts at all to bring it back.
andrew151
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9:41pm Sat 22 Sep 12
Maggie Would
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2:44pm Mon 24 Sep 12
Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives.
I am grateful for that.
ushmush83
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3:54pm Mon 24 Sep 12
To take a persons life, to feel and see the end of an existence, is a truly horrible thing. Why anyone would want this is beyond my comprehension. For anyone that believes in this, just think about being the one responsible for taking the life of the convicted. Could you really do that? What about the chaplain, councillor or lawyer involved in the never ending process of befriending and compassion before witnessing the passing of life?
I sincerely hope this guy never walks the streets again, but I do not wish death upon him.
Jabbadad
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4:30pm Mon 24 Sep 12
Jeff Broad
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5:36pm Mon 24 Sep 12
The Doosra
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9:20pm Mon 24 Sep 12
mayall8808 wrote:Of course there were no murders of any kind when we had the death penalty!
I support bringing back the death penalty, for all who kill, always have and with the technology now there can be almost no dispute.
I also think it would cut down the amount of gangland crime and the use of weapons for other purposes,
such as terrorism,,it's about time the government of this country and i don't mean just this one all of them have shown no guts at all to bring it back.
MJI
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11:20pm Mon 24 Sep 12
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It is a checksum.
pinkfluff
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10:56am Tue 25 Sep 12
Maggie Would wrote:pinkfluff likes ^ this.
Fortunately, the people commenting on this thread are in no position to bring back the death penalty. Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives. I am grateful for that.
mayall8808
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11:43am Tue 25 Sep 12
TheDoorsa, there were murders when we had the death penalty and there will be more too but the penalty of death should be there as a deterrent and if its 100% you kill someone then you know what the outcome will be.
Not as now a sentance which is usually an insult to justice.
Vox populi
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12:50pm Wed 26 Sep 12
Maggie Would wrote:Agreed!
Fortunately, the people commenting on this thread are in no position to bring back the death penalty. Fortunately, they also do not make the decisions that affect our day-to-day lives. I am grateful for that.
Murder is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human, and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter).
I think from some coments on here people need to meditate on premeditation...
The death penality is not a deterrent. America has proved this. 95% of murders are crimes of passion.
This case in question appears cold and calculated i.e. premeditated and is unusual which is why there has been so much shock and coverage but they are VERY rare. The death penality broadly applied as suggested in these posts would solve nothing or reduce nothing. This guy would have done what he did regardless of the outcome so why bring in the death penality based on this.
As mentioned above a lifetime of reflection in a cell or hard labour is a much more satisfactory solution. Death is an easy way out.
iamthebinman
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7:46am Thu 27 Sep 12
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