Allah Ditta loses no confidence motion (From Worcester News)

Human being is a product of his culture, language and faith. There is a positive co-relation between language and culture. If Muslims become notoriously monolingual Brits than there is a likely hood that they will adopt English culture. They will still be the underdogs of the British society. In the past they were victim of ****-bashing in all walks of life by the British society because majority of them were not well versed in local accents. Now Muslim youths born and educated by British education system are being victim of terrorism by British establishment. Thousands of them are being searched by Police in streets and many of them are behind the bar without any trial. A lot of Muslim youths are imprisoned by British courts on the slightest excuses. The number of Muslim prisoners is on the increase in British jails. When they come out of jail they will become real criminals and terrorists while British foreign minister has said that Muslims are law abiding and committed citizens.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture. It will help them to develop their cultural, linguistic and Islamic Identity, otherwise, they will be lost in Western Jungle. According to verities of studies, a child will suffer if he/she finds himself cut off from his/her cultural and linguistic roots. Arabic is our religious language and each and every Muslim must be well versed in Quranic Arabic. This the main reason why I believe that Pakistani parents must find marriage partners from Pakistan for their children. Pakistani children and youths suffer more than others because they find themselves cut off from the literature and poetry. Majority of them are not even well versed in Standard English. This is the main reason why majority of Pakistani children leave schools without good qualification. English is their economic language while Urdu is their social and emotional and Arabic is their religious language.

There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.



Bilingual Muslim children have been in state schools for the last 50 years. They have been suffering from ****-bashing. They have been unable to develop their confidence and self-esteem due to racism and bullying. This is one of the main reason why they have been unable to achieve good grades. They have been suffering from Identity Crises. They do not know where they belong. Muslim school with bilingual Muslim teachers is only the answer.

Iftikhar Ahmad

London School of Islamics Trust

http://www.londonsch
oolofislamics.org.uk

what on earth does any of the above have to do with the article about cllr Ditta and the upcoming motion?, this is not a case of racism, this is a case of a man who despite being given ample time and opportunity has not provided details of the charges, receipts, any proof or substance to an invoice he produced,or name who it was to be paid to (as in what organisation) .
who then went on to enforce this invoice in an aggressive and disgusting way which he has admitted to,in quite clearly the wrong place (Muslim burial grounds)... the fact he is a Muslim is irrelevant!, he could be black, blue, purple with orange spots and believe in father Christmas for all anyone cares! the fact is he has done something wrong.
He should take responsibility for his actions.Be a man!
I also think that despite the fact he was not acting a cllr at the time this whole situation needs to be investigated properly, to relieve the fears of the Worcester people that this is merely a one off, and not just one cherry on an extremely large cake of deception and/criminal behaviours.

And the above comments relate to Mr Ditta in what way?

i was wondering when the racism card would be played? nothing ever changes if you dont get your way play the racism card do you Ifti??? just to get what you want!
Allah Ditta out would make this county a much better place lets get out the rubbish now...

Great news!

brilliant fantastic news!

Not to sure what the rant from ifti is all about, but this is a good night for common sense, and i,m sure some of his tory mates would have voted against him if they had a free vote

This has nothing to do with race. A man in responsible office has a rant;shades of Andrew Mitchell. Both should resign.
To add to this, Cllr Ditta appears to have presented a fraudulant bill with no detail, contact details, company details etc. What would the tax man say?

finally some common sense! what brilliant news!, however disgusted by the conservatives voting in his favour,as it clearly means more to them to retain seats at any cost than to do the right thing for their community,
not surprised though!, conservatives are all the same. but as everyday passes their true colours are revealed!

Taxi for Ditta !!!!!!!!!!!

Ifta youve truely lost the plot, do u know what this is all about?, your on a diffrent planet. pple like you are dangerous.

Taxi for Ifta too !!!!!!

It seems to me that this has all got far to out of hand. How can there be a vote of no confidence without full and complete investigations? If a criminal act has taken place, then let's see the evidence. Likewise, having sat on it, the right and proper process to look into matters of public life is the standards board. Have either of these avenues been completely explored prior to the vote in no confidence? It seems a shame that all sides have come up with views and opinions before allowing investigations to be completed.

PS Ifti-Have you even been to Worcester? Have you conversated with the ethnic minorities within that region??? It's not like London or Birmingham.
Worcestershires Asian community is stuck in the 1960's! -YOUR POINT IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.
STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD.

The Ifti rant appears on dozens of local newspaper sites whenever there is a Muslim linked story. It doesn't have to be relevant ... it is simple propaganda for a cause.

Right or wrong there is an element in the Islamic culture that is seeking a society where Islamic values dominate Western Europe. And the chances are that they will win as Western culture moves further away from basic the Christian values is is built upon. (I'm not particularly Christian, but the values are the basis of our Society and the basis of my own values).

The Ifti rant is just another drip in the drip drip drip effect that will go on until our Great Great Great Grand-daughters have to wear scarves over their heads.

Ms Virgo that rant from ifti was aimed at ppl such as u what have ppl from Pakistani community ever done to u and how r they stuck in the 60s it seems to me u r and not willing to accept multicultural society well I got news for u no matter how much u rant about foreigners there's not much u can change so learn to live with it

ideas4all wrote:
Ms Virgo that rant from ifti was aimed at ppl such as u what have ppl from Pakistani community ever done to u and how r they stuck in the 60s it seems to me u r and not willing to accept multicultural society well I got news for u no matter how much u rant about foreigners there's not much u can change so learn to live with it

Again, in English, please?
And no, I'm not being racist, I just fail to understand why people can't use WORDS in their postings instead of random letters.
And yes, I am a dinosaur.

Maggie, it's called text speak and should be used in TEXTS not in written English.

Don't worry - you are not racist, just race aware for which you don't have to apologise. The worst racists are those who blow up or shoot other people because they are either westerners (including those of any colour who live by a western, christian ethos based lifestyle) or of another religion or sect within the same religion to themselves.

On the other hand people who write letters in text speak really should be hung, drawn and quartered .........

.... tollerance rule ok !!!!

Alex Kear makes the most valid points in all this discussion.

Should Worcester City Council now be investigated for failing to follow the Standard Procedures available to them?

I think it's very sad for Worcester that this situation has arisen at all. Obviously mistakes have been made but this all has the feel of a "witch-hunt" (we haven't changed our ideas much in hundreds of years have we?).

As for "Twittering" from the meeting .... all rather pathetic in my opinion - selected comments ONLY recorded so how biased is that!

Alex Kear makes the most valid points in all this discussion.

Should Worcester City Council now be investigated for failing to follow the Standard Procedures available to them?

I think it's very sad for Worcester that this situation has arisen at all. Obviously mistakes have been made but this all has the feel of a "witch-hunt" (we haven't changed our ideas much in hundreds of years have we?).

As for "Twittering" from the meeting .... all rather pathetic in my opinion - selected comments ONLY recorded so how biased is that!

Ifti wrote:
Human being is a product of his culture, language and faith. There is a positive co-relation between language and culture. If Muslims become notoriously monolingual Brits than there is a likely hood that they will adopt English culture. They will still be the underdogs of the British society. In the past they were victim of ****-bashing in all walks of life by the British society because majority of them were not well versed in local accents. Now Muslim youths born and educated by British education system are being victim of terrorism by British establishment. Thousands of them are being searched by Police in streets and many of them are behind the bar without any trial. A lot of Muslim youths are imprisoned by British courts on the slightest excuses. The number of Muslim prisoners is on the increase in British jails. When they come out of jail they will become real criminals and terrorists while British foreign minister has said that Muslims are law abiding and committed citizens. Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. A bilingual teacher has the ability to teach bilingually and explain complex concepts to children who have limited understanding of English. Learning in their first language 'raises their self-esteem, self-respect and strengthens their identities in western culture. It will help them to develop their cultural, linguistic and Islamic Identity, otherwise, they will be lost in Western Jungle. According to verities of studies, a child will suffer if he/she finds himself cut off from his/her cultural and linguistic roots. Arabic is our religious language and each and every Muslim must be well versed in Quranic Arabic. This the main reason why I believe that Pakistani parents must find marriage partners from Pakistan for their children. Pakistani children and youths suffer more than others because they find themselves cut off from the literature and poetry. Majority of them are not even well versed in Standard English. This is the main reason why majority of Pakistani children leave schools without good qualification. English is their economic language while Urdu is their social and emotional and Arabic is their religious language. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands. Bilingual Muslim children have been in state schools for the last 50 years. They have been suffering from ****-bashing. They have been unable to develop their confidence and self-esteem due to racism and bullying. This is one of the main reason why they have been unable to achieve good grades. They have been suffering from Identity Crises. They do not know where they belong. Muslim school with bilingual Muslim teachers is only the answer. Iftikhar Ahmad London School of Islamics Trust http://www.londonsch oolofislamics.org.uk

I really can't be bothered with this nonsense.

This story is about an apparently rather dodgy muslim Conservative local politician.

You might want to learn the value of concise postings.

In the meantime, please stop trying to present muslims as victims, and don't even think about trying to get the tax payer to fund special facilities for muslim kids.

Think instead about how minorities are treated in a lot of muslim countries, and about the irrational reaction to that video. Why expect this country to adapt to that?

ideas4all wrote:
Ms Virgo that rant from ifti was aimed at ppl such as u what have ppl from Pakistani community ever done to u and how r they stuck in the 60s it seems to me u r and not willing to accept multicultural society well I got news for u no matter how much u rant about foreigners there's not much u can change so learn to live with it

Why should anyone be forced to accept multiculturalism in its current form, or regard it as irreversible?

Maybe those who think it is a good idea are the ones who are stuck in the past.

Keith B wrote:
Maggie, it's called text speak and should be used in TEXTS not in written English.

Don't worry - you are not racist, just race aware for which you don't have to apologise. The worst racists are those who blow up or shoot other people because they are either westerners (including those of any colour who live by a western, christian ethos based lifestyle) or of another religion or sect within the same religion to themselves.

On the other hand people who write letters in text speak really should be hung, drawn and quartered .........

.... tollerance rule ok !!!!

Yes, I know what it is, I use it myself. When texting.

Read a book entitled 'The Islamic Republic of Dewsbury' by Danny Lockwood. The above rant would be put firmly in its place once you have digested its contents....

Please do not bring race into this, this is about a man in public office that has persistently let his voters down by his actions.

Truepear - it was bound to happen.

I think Ifti has let himself down a bit, by veering right off topic from the start and turning it into a platform to vent his anger at Western society.

As far as I see it, the Coucilor has lost the confidence he had built up, and it seems irreconcilable. It happens, and it is nothing to do with religion. It was simply poor judgment and, had he known better, he would not be in this position.

Ifti, you have done more harm than good with that opening post. It was irrelevant to the story and at the best just inflammatory.

Am I a bigot or racist? No. I have not a drop of English blood in me.

Get a grip fella. You're here. If I found myself as revolted by the system as you seem to, I'd have gone elsewhere long ago.

OrdinaryMan wrote:
Truepear - it was bound to happen. I think Ifti has let himself down a bit, by veering right off topic from the start and turning it into a platform to vent his anger at Western society. As far as I see it, the Coucilor has lost the confidence he had built up, and it seems irreconcilable. It happens, and it is nothing to do with religion. It was simply poor judgment and, had he known better, he would not be in this position. Ifti, you have done more harm than good with that opening post. It was irrelevant to the story and at the best just inflammatory. Am I a bigot or racist? No. I have not a drop of English blood in me. Get a grip fella. You're here. If I found myself as revolted by the system as you seem to, I'd have gone elsewhere long ago.

Very well said..