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Embracing the EU is our best option

8:10am Saturday 13th March 2010 in


SIR – I disagree with UKIP candidate Jack Bennett who wants to leave the EU (Letters, March 3).

As a supporter of British EU membership, I believe that a federal Europe is the best hope for the social and economic security of this country. The EU is an influence for good in the world and a federal Europe will stand with the world’s liberal forces against religious extremism and destructive capitalism and in support of the aims of the United Nations.

By no means perfect, the EU has raised the environmental, health, safety and human rights standards of the UK.

The economy of the EU is essentially social democratic with a consensus in support of universal welfare. It is no longer logical for the UK to continue its half-hearted relationship with the EU.

We need to plan for the full federal integration of the EU and membership of the Euro across the board.

Peter Nielsen
Independent Parliamentary Candidate for Worcester

Comments(18)

Common Sense says...
6:05pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Tosh!

CS.

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network says...
7:01pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Wake up Mr Nielson and smell the coffee.I can see you like all other MPs with your head that far up your own arse to see we are being conned. Glad I don't live in Worc's as you would not get my vote.

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Worcesterman says...
7:19pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Peter Neilsen

you asked me, what your party I was refering to,I was sure I saw something
now I know, you are Independent, so Peter if you are Independent, how the hell are you going to get anything done?. you will be on your own, one vote, wow thats going to get a lot for you, dont you think that you will be wasting your time?even the Green Party will have more votes than you, and they are a waste of space, I really think that we should get rid of all those in Parliament, and start afresh.

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Chips020 says...
9:54am Sun 14 Mar 10

Why the fish is everyone so negative about the EU, the fact of the matter is that it HAS been a good influence and die-hard imperialists are the only ones with any reason to hate it. Most of the issues caused by joining have been the product of us not integrating properly because we want to hold on to our imaginary independence. Oh and he is just stating his opinion so lay off the unsupported and offensive comments directed at the actual writer of the letter,

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PeterNielsen says...
11:05am Sun 14 Mar 10

Thanks Chips.
Worcesterman, I admit that I am fighting an uphill battle and my expectations are totally realistic. If all the votes (bar a few) are given to New Labour and the Tories, they will take that as meaning that the expenses scandals are forgiven and is water under the bridge, and they can get back to 'normal'. I am also opposed to people being trapped into 'choosing' between two parties whose policies are essentially the same. The establishment is geared up again to making the election a three-way contest and all other parties and independents shut out. Even the Scots Nats and Plaid Cymru are going to be excluded from the TV debates even though, in the case of the Scots, the Nats are the biggest party at the moment. I am paying out my £500 deposit to put my money where my mouth is and to oppose New Labour and the Tories because their economics are neo-liberal and their foreign policy neo-conservative. After the disgraceful revelations about the behaviour of many MPs in the last Parliament, I think a vote for the main parties will endorse their corruption and be very damaging to politics. There will be probably be seven candidates in Worcester. I hope the voters will look closely at us and make an informed decision and not be herded by the media into the New Labour and Tory corrals. In the past, there were generally three parties standing. Then the Greens started spreading and UKIP and one I won't mention. I say to Worcester people, you have a real menu of candidates this time. Don't throw it away.

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Cromwell of Worcester says...
5:21pm Sun 14 Mar 10

So those who oppose all the lies distortion and all the farce that is put forward to brain-wash people who quite rightly oppose the Infrastructure and policies inflicted on this Nation over these many years to be included into the EUSSR.Have collected another name .So not being abusive or personal ,perhaps offensive or even aggressive in words that is to answer these comments . Let me list them in any order. EUROPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIA, PROTECTIONISM, NATIONALISM, FASCISM, NEO- NAZI. Some people don't know the difference between a Fascist and a Nazi, SMALL MINDED. LITTLE ENGLANDER ,was it Gad-Flea. And now a DIE HARD IMPERLIST. Gosh my beloved farther would have love that one.Worcesterman now you know why,remember friends etc !!!

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Chips020 says...
6:10pm Sun 14 Mar 10

Cromwell of Worcester wrote:
So those who oppose all the lies distortion and all the farce that is put forward to brain-wash people who quite rightly oppose the Infrastructure and policies inflicted on this Nation over these many years to be included into the EUSSR.Have collected another name .So not being abusive or personal ,perhaps offensive or even aggressive in words that is to answer these comments . Let me list them in any order. EUROPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIA, PROTECTIONISM, NATIONALISM, FASCISM, NEO- NAZI. Some people don't know the difference between a Fascist and a Nazi, SMALL MINDED. LITTLE ENGLANDER ,was it Gad-Flea. And now a DIE HARD IMPERLIST. Gosh my beloved farther would have love that one.Worcesterman now you know why,remember friends etc !!!
what the...?

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Richard5 says...
8:51am Tue 16 Mar 10

Well, it's your £500, and you're just throwing it away on a vanity project to run for parliament. You know, we know, everyone knows that you're going to lose your deposit on May 6th.

By the way, before banging on about the state (or superstate) as a force for good in the World, I suggest you read some Hayek. Using the state for 'good' is VERY dependant on a definition of 'good', and the people in charge of implementing it.

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PeterNielsen says...
11:11am Tue 16 Mar 10

Richard5, I will take your insult, and your impertinence (in assuming that I have not read Friedrich von Hyek) on the chin. If you support Hayek and his deciples (Milton Friedman, Augusto Pinochet, Richard Nixon, Margaret Thatcher, New Labour, the so-called Wall Street and City 'masters of the universe' etc etc) can I assume that you are a Tory and a supporter of Young Britons' Foundation (YBF)? The Hayek and Friedman followers (called the Chicago Boys) were discredited by the mass murder in Chile and by the recent banking crashes. These were the result of politicians being seduced by Hayek's idea that business should be left alone to govern the world as it wished. YBF describes the NHS as the biggest waste of money in the UK, calls global warming a scam and justifies the waterboarding of prisoners. This far right Tory organisation holds training seminars for Tory Parliamentary candidates.
If you have not read J K Galbraith (try "The Good Society - The Humane Agenda"). I can thoroughly recommend it. A good antidote to Hayek is Naomi Klein.
You are right, it is my £500. As a free marketeer, you would not deny me the right to spend my money as I wish, I hope. You can read who I am and why I am standing on my website www.peternielsen.org
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Worcesterman says...
1:33pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Peter.
I havent read any of those books, but I do have the brain, to understand whats happening to this once great nation,although I do agree that it is your right to throw your £500 away, but I would sooner have you give to me than the Government get it.
I do admire you, for sticking to your guns, there's not many people who would do that, if only you were not silly, in picking the wrong agenda, the E.U. will fall, one day, when people finaly get the message, the United States, got together, because they they are the same, the E.U. well "Peter" every country is different, you really think they can stay united ? thats merely a Progressive pipe dream.

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PeterNielsen says...
7:29pm Tue 16 Mar 10

Can I just clear up this preoccupation about my deposit. Politics is what I do and am good at and get a lot of stimulation from. It is my chosen vehicle to a peaceful world and a just society about which I am passionate. Many people have far more expensive hobbies and pastimes than the £500 I am shelling out (and hope to recover). Anglers, bikers, collectors, travellers, sports people, sports fans and regulars at the local pub will spend more than £500 in four or five years. To me, it's £500 well invested.

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Worcesterman says...
7:21am Wed 17 Mar 10

PeterNielsen.

Peter..This preoccupation about your deposit, I personally do not want you to lose it, but if you want to give it away, why not a charity of your choosing?. If you were in any of the three other Parties, I could understand your intransigence, but your faith in saying that you will aim for a peaceful and just world, just is not going to happen, it never will.
How long has the United Nations existed? for ages, and nothing is done by them, they have five permanent members, that can veto anything they do not like, so whats the point of it?, the hot air eminating from that useless building,could warm a city the size of Birmingham.
And you really think you on your own can change that, I do not think so. Still I admire you, for sticking to your guns( mind you since you are for peace I should'nt have used gun).
Who knows you may get sympathy
votes, because every one seems to be against you, it has happened.

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PeterNielsen says...
10:40am Wed 17 Mar 10

Worcesterman, Its like voting, isn’t it? What difference does one vote matter in thousands. Yet most people still value their vote and take the trouble to use it. I don’t underestimate the enormity of achieving peace and justice or the timescale needed. I took the trouble to understand the issues better by doing a degree in Peace Studies at the age of 40. I know Peace Studies sounds very right-on but it is actually a demanding academic course. The modern world is undoubtedly a better place to live for many in the world than the world 100 or 200 or 500 years ago. But not for everybody, yet. That affects us with overpopulation and poverty stricken people risking their lives on unsafe boats in deep seas to reach European and American shores. Some people are busy cashing in on all this and are only interested in enriching themselves and regard human civilisation as their oyster to greater riches through playing the financial markets. To me, they are not pulling their weight in finding solutions to our problems. That’s why I call for progressive taxation, wealth taxes, the Tobin tax and tax on other market activities. Nobody gets rich by themselves. We all need each other and the rich need the teeming masses. We might not like bureaucratic interference in our lives from Whitehall and Brussells but it is a **** site better than kings, bishops and military dictators having the power of life and death. My £500 and the platform it provides is my contribution to the advancement of human values and civic society that I hope will be supported by others voting for me or doing similar things in other places. If enough of us pull in the right direction, we may yet be in a position to make up for our ravaging of the earth in the 19th and 20th centuries to leave something for future generations. In case that sounds too grand, it is as relevant to the people of Worcester and their life chances as anywhere else. It is the restoration of a sense of community rather than the rush for the lifeboats that economic life has become.

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Chips020 says...
3:12pm Wed 17 Mar 10

Worcesterman wrote:
PeterNielsen.

Peter..This preoccupation about your deposit, I personally do not want you to lose it, but if you want to give it away, why not a charity of your choosing?. If you were in any of the three other Parties, I could understand your intransigence, but your faith in saying that you will aim for a peaceful and just world, just is not going to happen, it never will.
How long has the United Nations existed? for ages, and nothing is done by them, they have five permanent members, that can veto anything they do not like, so whats the point of it?, the hot air eminating from that useless building,could warm a city the size of Birmingham.
And you really think you on your own can change that, I do not think so. Still I admire you, for sticking to your guns( mind you since you are for peace I should'nt have used gun).
Who knows you may get sympathy
votes, because every one seems to be against you, it has happened.
You really should do more research into the history of the EU before you make claims like that, oh and not everyone is against him.

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Worcesterman says...
6:18pm Wed 17 Mar 10

Chips020 Malvern.

Chips, what research are you on about?.Perhaps you can enlighten me, you must remember that Governments, do things behind our backs, having said that, I remember that Churchill, talked about this after the war, but thankfully, DeGaul put his veto,against us for many years, and then that traitor Heath sold us down the river, with a load of fairy tales, and even now progressive Governments has blocked, our right for a referendum.
I remember writing in the Worcester News, some time back, saying that if we are all the same, as all you leftwingers keep telling us, how equal we all are, and my point was then, is why isnt the wages made the same through all Members of the so called Union, why doesn't
they make sure that food, petrol, and all other thing cost the same,
and hey presto, no need for any mass emigration, after all why should they? after all it is a Union is it not? but then we all know its a load of crap, apart from you great believers, the day you leftwing progressives do that, then you will have your communist system, where everybody, apart from our great leaders, will end up with nothing. and God help us, because then it will be too late.

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Olga says...
5:34pm Thu 18 Mar 10

I don't agree with you - but - respect for having a go at what you believe in and putting your cash into it. - Almost - but can't quite bring myself to wish you luck. Keeping democracy alive. Well done.

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Chips020 says...
5:55pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Worcesterman wrote:
Chips020 Malvern.

Chips, what research are you on about?.Perhaps you can enlighten me, you must remember that Governments, do things behind our backs, having said that, I remember that Churchill, talked about this after the war, but thankfully, DeGaul put his veto,against us for many years, and then that traitor Heath sold us down the river, with a load of fairy tales, and even now progressive Governments has blocked, our right for a referendum.
I remember writing in the Worcester News, some time back, saying that if we are all the same, as all you leftwingers keep telling us, how equal we all are, and my point was then, is why isnt the wages made the same through all Members of the so called Union, why doesn't
they make sure that food, petrol, and all other thing cost the same,
and hey presto, no need for any mass emigration, after all why should they? after all it is a Union is it not? but then we all know its a load of crap, apart from you great believers, the day you leftwing progressives do that, then you will have your communist system, where everybody, apart from our great leaders, will end up with nothing. and God help us, because then it will be too late.
I accept defeat. You have a very good point, although a little optimistic...

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DarrenM says...
7:38pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Well it seems to me that Peter will be a shoe-in for election - I've got another popular policy for you - why not campaign for the re-introduction of the poll-tax as well because you're clearly onto a winner already.

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