Labour would make similar police cuts

2:43pm Friday 17th August 2012 in Read

SIR – Dr Simon Murphy, the Labour candidate for West Mercia’s police and crime commissioner, is ill-informed if he thinks a Labour government would not implement budget cuts of the same order as the present government (Worcester News , August 14).

His party was committed to 12 per cent cuts before the election and since then Yvette Cooper, the Shadow Home Secretary, has told the BBC (Radio 4, Today, January 27, 2012) that she endorses a pay freeze over several years, which would be worth another eight per cent.

So the police would face exactly the same budget cuts under a Labour government as under the present coalition.

Maybe Dr Murphy knows this, but that would mean he is seeking to mislead the voters and that, I am sure, he would never do...

Coun Dr KEN POLLOCK

Worcester

Comments(14)

Jabbadad says...
6:17pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Which political party does Ken Pollock belong to?

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Guy66 says...
9:43am Sat 18 Aug 12

The sensible one helping to bring this country out of the massive debt left by Labour.

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Jabbadad says...
11:09am Sat 18 Aug 12

Thought so, by cutting police numbers, by cutting Older Peoples services, by sacking huge numbers of civil servants, by closing hospitals, by placing huge orders for Military equipment , ships and arms including body Armour all which could be sourced in the UK, to Europe and elsewhere, and continuing with the order for new trains from Europe, Aircraft Carriers without planes to fly from them, from orders placed by New Labour, just to send home the message about New Labour's folly, while still sacrificing this country. Oh yes I do now recall which party Ken Pollock belongs to. Maybe Ken also recalls that the worldwide Credit crunch is more financially related to Tory banking buddies, who are maybe less a Bentley or two, and perhaps only hunt out once a month poor dears, but are still eating off the silver.

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Guy66 says...
12:48pm Sat 18 Aug 12

The ships were one of the last contracts signed under Labour and unfortunately due to their incompetence it would cost more to cancel than to complete. Labour would have cut the Police as already stated. Most of the other military contracts would have been negotiated over time (read under Labour). This collation conducted a complete spending review of new and existing contracts for the MOD when they came into power, contracts that made no sense (read signed under Labour again) were cancelled, others were continued due to financial penalties or they made sense.

You need to stop reading the Daily Mail!

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Jabbadad says...
1:42pm Sat 18 Aug 12

You need to stop preaching Tory propaganda, it really is quite sad when you actually believe what you are told to say. Do you have a pager, I read several Newspapers every day on line so obviously not as thought conditioned as you perhaps. Did you deliberately avoid local Tory cuts?

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Jabbadad says...
1:43pm Sat 18 Aug 12

You need to stop preaching Tory propaganda, it really is quite sad when you actually believe what you are told to say. Do you have a pager, I read several Newspapers every day on line so obviously not as thought conditioned as you perhaps. Did you deliberately avoid local Tory cuts?

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Doogie 46 says...
2:42pm Sat 18 Aug 12

I seem to remember that Alistair Darling warned The Saviour Of The World that quite severe spending cuts needed to be made but Brown would not entertain the idea.
Had the current government not applied the brakes sharply, the people who lend money to countries (yes - those pesky banks and financiers I`m afraid) would have kept their money in their vaults - unfortunately moneylenders like to be in with a chance of getting repaid.
Was it not the Pretty Straight Kind Of Guy and The Saviour Of The World who heaped honours on the likes of Fred Goodwin for "sevices to banking"?
I`m afraid the thirteen years of socialist Utopia were built on shaky foundations.
I guess if there was a general election tomorrow Old Labour might sweep into power - then we`d find out how really bad things could be.
(believe it or not in 1997 I thought Blair & Co were a great step forward - amazing what smoke & mirrors can do)

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Jabbadad says...
2:56pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Yep Doogie Blair fooled me as did Ted Heath, and sadly apart from a different party name they are akin, Akin to themselves, they make monumental mistakes (being polite) and carry on drawing their money and mainly holding their jobs or quickly become an overnight expert in yet another high paid position.
They represent the well off in our society not the genuine hard working voters. And yes I have the same fear about New Labour again, but this bunch may not be aware that the drums are starting to beat. Until we have compulsory voting and proportional representation we will be like this for many years to come until we at last awake to the next religious awakening looming.

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Maggie Would says...
3:08pm Sat 18 Aug 12

He didn't fool me, the smarmy git. I always hated him, but there was no satisfaction in saying 'I told you so' when he was rumbled, as we'd all gone to the dogs by then.
(And just for the record, I don't jump to the tune of any party - I hate all politicians equally).

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Jabbadad says...
5:19pm Sat 18 Aug 12

I am sure the hat against politicians also fits me nicely Maggie, they are an unnecessary evil. And forgetting the Regalia of the Lords which is really wonderful tourist wise,the old devils creep in sign the book for their money if they are able, (someone said the majority of signature look the same shaky squiggle) and sneak back off home, unless they are on couch duty whereby they sleep during the debates. We could really have a college or drama school to do all the regalia pomp and ceremony and forget the rest.
Then we start on the other house, be nice to sack them all but perhaps 200 to start. And install some democracy for a change.

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Guy66 says...
2:41am Mon 20 Aug 12

Jabbadad wrote:
You need to stop preaching Tory propaganda, it really is quite sad when you actually believe what you are told to say. Do you have a pager, I read several Newspapers every day on line so obviously not as thought conditioned as you perhaps. Did you deliberately avoid local Tory cuts?
It was not preaching (btw your second post resembled preaching far more) just simple facts backed up with some home truths. National rags tells their own stories to sell the papers - time to get a grip I think.

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anarchist says...
9:18am Mon 20 Aug 12

Neither Labour nor the Conservatives did anything to protect West Mercia taxpayers from excessive policing cost increases in the decade in which Labour was in power.

Labour removed capping controls but had to ignominiously re-introduce them when it became obvious that local politicians could not keep costs under control.

But by the time they realised their mistake, it was too late since local taxpayers had already suffered a decade of increases in policing costs averaging five times the rate of inflation.

But local Conservatives were also culpable since they dominated the West Mercia Police Authority, the body that sets the policing element of Council Tax, where they equally failed to keep local policing costs under control.

But it is now evident that the Labour Party candidate is going to ignore the facts and fight his campaign in line with his parties dogma on cuts.

This is a pity since we should have more than blind adherence to Party propaganda from our PCC candidates.

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DAVID1875 says...
11:33am Mon 20 Aug 12

Regarding Jaddabad's first comment and his/her list of errors of the current government-has he/she forgotten that the Labour government : 1.signed up to record numbers of PFI deals to build hospitals which has saddled the NHS with billions of debt for decades to come,2.created non-jobs in the public sector to such an extent that their salaries and pension entitlements will be a financial burden for further decades, 3.took the country into at least a war in Iraq illegally and a second war in Afghanistan that is unwinnable. And that is just the 3 subjects he raised,of hospitals,civil servants and the military.
And back to the subject of policing;it was the Labour government who brought in 16,000 PCSOs who cannot arrest anyone and have very few powers.They were only brought in to make it LOOK like there was a police prescence-then we get told by senior police that PCSOs "were never intended to be police officers";so what is the point of them! Hopefully whichever candidate is elected they will do a better job of holding police to account than the useless West Mercia Police authority whose 17 members each received £20,000 per year for doing 10 hours per week maximum!

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Keith B says...
5:04pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Does this debate show the folly of voting for a police commissioner on political party lines. The ya-boo-sucks stuff above just shows that, if we elect from a Party, we aren't going to get an even handed commissioner to look after policing matters, just a Party puppet intent on dogma and playing politics.

Yet the whole thing has been set up top ensure independents can't get in - none the least because of the huge deposit required to stand and the fact that access to the voter is being restricted but not giving candidates a free mailing.

I'll be voting for the person who impresses me as an individual regardless of the political leanings (or none) not for a Party tag.

Do you know who would be good - former Kidderminster independent MP Dr Richard Taylor.

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