Demolition plans approved

Demolition plans approved

Demolition plans approved

First published in News

PLANS to demolish two large bungalows and build eight new houses have been approved by planners, despite objections from neighbours.

Worcester City Council’s planning committee approved the plans, put forward by LMD Developments Ltd, to demolish two post-war bungalows in Henwick Road and build seven five-bedroom houses and one three-bedroom maisonette apartment at a meeting last week.

Permission was granted, subject to a legal agreement, which states a financial contribution will go towards improvements to educational facilities to schools in the area.

But residents living near to the site in Ferry Close, said they feared the new houses could be built for students from nearby Worcester University.

Six letters of objection were sent to the council who were concerned about loss of privacy, noise and parking.

Stephen Bond, was one of six Ferry Close residents who came to the meeting objecting to the plans.

“We feel the proposed application is far too big for the site and we feel this will be [used] for student lets and not for family use due to the proximity of the university,” he said.

“If this is for students that’s another 35 people on that site. Students only live on the premises temporarily and do not care about the look of the care of the property.

“If this development goes ahead we will be concerned with a mini campus. Parking is an ongoing frustration for us. We already have residents parking who live in Henwick Road.”

Bob Pender, Worcestershire County Council transportation partnership manager, said: “On face value we have before us an application for eight new family dwellings.

“The applicant has offered a communal parking area of 17 new spaces. We consider 17 spaces for eight new family dwellings as adequate provided they are unallocated to specific properties.”

But ward Councillor Simon Geraghty, who was not at the meeting but said in a letter he was concerned traffic and parking would be more of a problem if the properties were built for students.

He requested planners to restrict the use of the new houses for families only.

“I would like to formally register my concern in relation to these new homes being for multple occupancy,” he said.

Councillors voted in favour of adding extra conditions to the plans which include a rule that the developer must apply for further planning permission before changing the use of the developement to multiple occupation.

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4:23pm Sun 23 Dec 12

janie07 says...

Worcs City Council being very naive if they think these properties will be for families! LMD development are renown for student lets.
Worcs City Council being very naive if they think these properties will be for families! LMD development are renown for student lets. janie07
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9:35pm Sun 23 Dec 12

leoalfie says...

Yet another example of Worcester City Council giving in to the demands of the University. No regard for the residents who have lived in Ferry Close for over 50 years and yet another example of houses built for students who will pay no Council Tax while the rest of us have our bills increased to allow for this. Take a look at all LMD's other properties Worcester City Council and see who occupies them.
Yet another example of Worcester City Council giving in to the demands of the University. No regard for the residents who have lived in Ferry Close for over 50 years and yet another example of houses built for students who will pay no Council Tax while the rest of us have our bills increased to allow for this. Take a look at all LMD's other properties Worcester City Council and see who occupies them. leoalfie
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11:43pm Sun 23 Dec 12

purplecat17 says...

You have your facts wrong evening news there were infact NINE letters of complaint AGAINST this dreadful development. Why didn't these developers buy a plot of wasteland to build these eyesores on instead of DESTROYING AND RIPPING OUT a much, much loved a beautiful garden and family home. ITS A DISGRACE. Lets hope the people of Ferry close, king arthurs close and Henwick road, who have lived there over 30/40 years fight on and appeal against these HEARTLESS, DESTROYING , GREEDY liam mcdermott developments and win. What is the point of objecting to developers? when NINE homes object and this worcester council do NOTHING to help the nearby long standing residents,ITS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
You have your facts wrong evening news there were infact NINE letters of complaint AGAINST this dreadful development. Why didn't these developers buy a plot of wasteland to build these eyesores on instead of DESTROYING AND RIPPING OUT a much, much loved a beautiful garden and family home. ITS A DISGRACE. Lets hope the people of Ferry close, king arthurs close and Henwick road, who have lived there over 30/40 years fight on and appeal against these HEARTLESS, DESTROYING , GREEDY liam mcdermott developments and win. What is the point of objecting to developers? when NINE homes object and this worcester council do NOTHING to help the nearby long standing residents,ITS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. purplecat17
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8:27am Mon 24 Dec 12

Keith B says...

What happened to the governments much vaunted localism in planning matters where the local community was supposed to have the major say in all new build.

From an opposite point of view, as a student landlord, these units seem ideal purchases. I will need to work out the margins, though with this developer they will probably not come on the market.
What happened to the governments much vaunted localism in planning matters where the local community was supposed to have the major say in all new build. From an opposite point of view, as a student landlord, these units seem ideal purchases. I will need to work out the margins, though with this developer they will probably not come on the market. Keith B
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11:17am Mon 24 Dec 12

The Doosra says...

I have no obejction in principle to the idea of two bungalows being replaced by five family homes - that's a net gain of three to the overall housing stock. But I share the concerns of other contributors about the long-term destiny of these properties.

Regrettably, while there is money to be made from student lets the number of houses in St Johns being converted into multi-occupancy will only increase.

The City Council should seek an urgent meeting with the University with a view to the Uni being encouraged to buy one or more brownfield sites in the City for the purpose of developing student accommodation. When I say "encouraged" the University should be given an ultimatum that further expansion plans will not get past the planners unless they agree to a realistic programme of building there own student accommodation.

In thit way, student lets will become less profitable for private developers.
I have no obejction in principle to the idea of two bungalows being replaced by five family homes - that's a net gain of three to the overall housing stock. But I share the concerns of other contributors about the long-term destiny of these properties. Regrettably, while there is money to be made from student lets the number of houses in St Johns being converted into multi-occupancy will only increase. The City Council should seek an urgent meeting with the University with a view to the Uni being encouraged to buy one or more brownfield sites in the City for the purpose of developing student accommodation. When I say "encouraged" the University should be given an ultimatum that further expansion plans will not get past the planners unless they agree to a realistic programme of building there own student accommodation. In thit way, student lets will become less profitable for private developers. The Doosra
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2:17pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Keith B says...

They are not THAT profitable now. The reality of letting to students is a complete redecoration every year which eats away half the profits. A getting the rent isn't that easy either !!!!!!!!! It isn't the "sit back and let the money roll in" life that it is sometimes thought to be. Landlords have to really work for their money - which is most cases is simply a way of saving for a pension.
They are not THAT profitable now. The reality of letting to students is a complete redecoration every year which eats away half the profits. A getting the rent isn't that easy either !!!!!!!!! It isn't the "sit back and let the money roll in" life that it is sometimes thought to be. Landlords have to really work for their money - which is most cases is simply a way of saving for a pension. Keith B
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3:04pm Mon 24 Dec 12

The Doosra says...

Keith B wrote:
They are not THAT profitable now. The reality of letting to students is a complete redecoration every year which eats away half the profits. A getting the rent isn't that easy either !!!!!!!!! It isn't the "sit back and let the money roll in" life that it is sometimes thought to be. Landlords have to really work for their money - which is most cases is simply a way of saving for a pension.
If there was no money in it - they wouldn't do it.
[quote][p][bold]Keith B[/bold] wrote: They are not THAT profitable now. The reality of letting to students is a complete redecoration every year which eats away half the profits. A getting the rent isn't that easy either !!!!!!!!! It isn't the "sit back and let the money roll in" life that it is sometimes thought to be. Landlords have to really work for their money - which is most cases is simply a way of saving for a pension.[/p][/quote]If there was no money in it - they wouldn't do it. The Doosra
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4:24pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Keith B says...

Of course there's money in it - that's why I do it. I'm just saying it's not an easy gravy train. It's just another job of work.
Of course there's money in it - that's why I do it. I'm just saying it's not an easy gravy train. It's just another job of work. Keith B
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4:38pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Jabbadad says...

Yes of course there is money in it, and it is widely known that students will live in sub-standard digs as long as the rent is affordable, plus they are encouraged sometimes enforced to move out of Halls of Residence at the end of their first year to make way for the new intake students.
As to being a student let landlord there certainly is a risk, I used to visit student digs for renovation works and I can assure you that houses which look nice outside are hovels inside created by the students, and the girls were among the worse. When my son was away at Uni he said the lads could get accommodation easier than the girls.
But having said this we cannot be surprised about planning decisions when we were aware that some 3,000 extra students could come to a bigger university and the question was posted several times as to where would they live. And the council is reminded how much income the University brings to Worcester. So it's here and we have to grim and bear it.
Yes of course there is money in it, and it is widely known that students will live in sub-standard digs as long as the rent is affordable, plus they are encouraged sometimes enforced to move out of Halls of Residence at the end of their first year to make way for the new intake students. As to being a student let landlord there certainly is a risk, I used to visit student digs for renovation works and I can assure you that houses which look nice outside are hovels inside created by the students, and the girls were among the worse. When my son was away at Uni he said the lads could get accommodation easier than the girls. But having said this we cannot be surprised about planning decisions when we were aware that some 3,000 extra students could come to a bigger university and the question was posted several times as to where would they live. And the council is reminded how much income the University brings to Worcester. So it's here and we have to grim and bear it. Jabbadad
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7:34pm Mon 24 Dec 12

Keith B says...

Spot on Jabbadad - the girls are far less careful tenants than lads and in a mixed household the girls are the mucky ones, the boys try to keep the place tidy. The biggest problems are when drink is involved and pranks are played, which often damage the infrastructure of the house.

Our houses incidentally are not in Worcester but another University town.

As a Landlord we do try to to provide slightly better accomodation than the norm providing Sky TV with a sports/film package, broadband and a number of extras not always provided in student lets. So we have a queue of students wanting to get into our accomodation.

But it is a business like any other. The problem is expanding - buying more houses - as the Banks don't see buying a house in the same way as another business might ask for a loan to buy a new machine or even stock (which are what the houses actually are).

Nowadays we regard Landlord as a bit of a dirty word - but actually most Landlords are good people simply putting the money they make in their day to day business's to good use as a sort of pension fund.
Spot on Jabbadad - the girls are far less careful tenants than lads and in a mixed household the girls are the mucky ones, the boys try to keep the place tidy. The biggest problems are when drink is involved and pranks are played, which often damage the infrastructure of the house. Our houses incidentally are not in Worcester but another University town. As a Landlord we do try to to provide slightly better accomodation than the norm providing Sky TV with a sports/film package, broadband and a number of extras not always provided in student lets. So we have a queue of students wanting to get into our accomodation. But it is a business like any other. The problem is expanding - buying more houses - as the Banks don't see buying a house in the same way as another business might ask for a loan to buy a new machine or even stock (which are what the houses actually are). Nowadays we regard Landlord as a bit of a dirty word - but actually most Landlords are good people simply putting the money they make in their day to day business's to good use as a sort of pension fund. Keith B
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11:08pm Mon 24 Dec 12

The Doosra says...

Keith B (unwittingly?) backs up my take on this by saying that there is a queue of students willing to take up his accommodation.

If the Uni and the City Council get their act together (I might not hold my breath) and agree to build some dedicated student accommodation within the city, the demand for private student digs will lessen thus reducing the number of perfectly good family houses being converted to student use.
Keith B (unwittingly?) backs up my take on this by saying that there is a queue of students willing to take up his accommodation. If the Uni and the City Council get their act together (I might not hold my breath) and agree to build some dedicated student accommodation within the city, the demand for private student digs will lessen thus reducing the number of perfectly good family houses being converted to student use. The Doosra
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5:59am Wed 26 Dec 12

mauro balbino says...

The Doosra said:

"(...) the number of houses in St Johns being converted into multi-occupancy will only increase (...)"

Whilst living in St John for the past nine years, that's a phenomenon I worry about.

Standards of living are plummeting down faster than any serious local policy should allow.
The Doosra said: "(...) the number of houses in St Johns being converted into multi-occupancy will only increase (...)" Whilst living in St John for the past nine years, that's a phenomenon I worry about. Standards of living are plummeting down faster than any serious local policy should allow. mauro balbino
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10:22am Wed 26 Dec 12

Jabbadad says...

During the late sixties and early seventies I lived close by the then Teachers Training College, and it seemed that the majority of students were local or they lived on Campus, and we had little if no problems / student antics in fact they were a welcome asset to the community.
Whereas the now University who have and still are causing many of the current problems choose to bury their heads in the sand as it were. By introducing carpark charges on the University they are responsible for the on-road parking issues, (which they deny) issues which include blocking pathways and obstructing driveways to residents homes. After several years of huge problems caused by the Uni and faced by the local residents, I hear that the introduction of yellow lines, while also punishing the residents has helped. So yes we have to have a University it seems that those decision makers at the University need to go to other cities to see how the two populations can exist more harmoniously side by side.
At Leicester they have over 30,000 students on split campuses and lots of rented houses which the Student unions and universities have input into, and they have free Uni buses frequently travelling between sites, and students just didn't need to have a car. So wake up Worcester Uni, while we see your rapid expansion, you also need to address the problems that you are causing.
During the late sixties and early seventies I lived close by the then Teachers Training College, and it seemed that the majority of students were local or they lived on Campus, and we had little if no problems / student antics in fact they were a welcome asset to the community. Whereas the now University who have and still are causing many of the current problems choose to bury their heads in the sand as it were. By introducing carpark charges on the University they are responsible for the on-road parking issues, (which they deny) issues which include blocking pathways and obstructing driveways to residents homes. After several years of huge problems caused by the Uni and faced by the local residents, I hear that the introduction of yellow lines, while also punishing the residents has helped. So yes we have to have a University it seems that those decision makers at the University need to go to other cities to see how the two populations can exist more harmoniously side by side. At Leicester they have over 30,000 students on split campuses and lots of rented houses which the Student unions and universities have input into, and they have free Uni buses frequently travelling between sites, and students just didn't need to have a car. So wake up Worcester Uni, while we see your rapid expansion, you also need to address the problems that you are causing. Jabbadad
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