Major revamp for key city centre junction

Worcester News: OVERHAUL: The work at Trinity Gate will make the crossing safer for pedestrians. OVERHAUL: The work at Trinity Gate will make the crossing safer for pedestrians.

A MAJOR Worcester road junction is undergoing a three-month overhaul to ease congestion and make it more shopper-friendly.

Worcestershire County Council is revamping Trinity Gate – the point where Sansome Street, Lowesmoor, St Nicholas Street and City Walls Road meet.

The old traffic lights will be replaced with modern ones better able to respond to oncoming cars, while a series of dropped kerbs will be placed around the junction to help pedestrians to cross.

There will also be improvements to the traffic islands along the route.

Part of the reason for the work is the £75million transformation of Lowesmoor thanks to the new Asda superstore and St Martin’s Quarter.

The Trinity Gate project, which started this week, will carry on until Easter. Drivers are being warned of potential delays until then, with short periods of lane and road closures.

Councillor Simon Geraghty, the county council’s deputy leader and cabinet member for the economy and infrastructure, said: “This is an important junction in Worcester city centre.

“Improvements here are necessary to improve access between the city, Lowesmoor and the St Martin’s Quarter boosting economic activity and improving traffic flow.

“As with any major highways scheme, while delays are likely when works are taking place, users will benefit from real improvements once the enhancements are completed by Easter.”

At a later date council chiefs say Trinity Gate will be resurfaced, although this work does not form part of the upgrade at this stage.

The work is part of the Worcester Transport Strategy which the Department for Transport is already backing with more than £14m.

The county council has also put just over £5m into the strategy, which includes road and footpath upgrades all over the city.

Ringway, which is carrying out the work on behalf of County Hall, has placed a temporary office in the car park between Silver Street and the City Walls Road.

If drivers want to know about any delays at Trinity Gate before they plan their journey, they can call a dedicated phone number on 01905 761176.

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12:57pm Fri 18 Jan 13

mayall8808 says...

Lets hope its a better job than the pathetic Whittington roundabout farce.
Lets hope its a better job than the pathetic Whittington roundabout farce. mayall8808

12:59pm Fri 18 Jan 13

saucerer says...

God help us all! Another roads scheme from the highways department. So, will this be this year's highways **** up of the year, or can we expect more incompetence further down the line?
God help us all! Another roads scheme from the highways department. So, will this be this year's highways **** up of the year, or can we expect more incompetence further down the line? saucerer

1:45pm Fri 18 Jan 13

orla nutting says...

Let's hope the plan includes making it a box junction in an effort to stop traffic from Lowesmoor and City Walls Rd blocking the access to Queen St from Sansome Walk. Buses and Taxis just halt across the junction when they can't get up St Nicholas St and prevent access to Queen St and the Cornmarket.
Let's hope the plan includes making it a box junction in an effort to stop traffic from Lowesmoor and City Walls Rd blocking the access to Queen St from Sansome Walk. Buses and Taxis just halt across the junction when they can't get up St Nicholas St and prevent access to Queen St and the Cornmarket. orla nutting

1:57pm Fri 18 Jan 13

jb says...

Considering that no one appears to observe the traffic restrictions along Lowesmoor/The Trinity anyway it's about time something was done to improve this junction.
Considering that no one appears to observe the traffic restrictions along Lowesmoor/The Trinity anyway it's about time something was done to improve this junction. jb

2:20pm Fri 18 Jan 13

CJH says...

Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.
Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid. CJH

3:17pm Fri 18 Jan 13

More Tea Vicar says...

Sounds like a great idea in principle, and a sensible use of Council resource.

Devil's in the detail, mind...Whittington and all that...
Sounds like a great idea in principle, and a sensible use of Council resource. Devil's in the detail, mind...Whittington and all that... More Tea Vicar

4:18pm Fri 18 Jan 13

Landy44 says...

I've forgotten how many times this junction has been toyed with over the last thirty or forty years. It never seems to work quite like it should.

So, the council are out to "help" us again by changing this junction (Love to know the cost of this). Let's suspend disbelief and see how "helped" we feel once it's complete.

Perhaps we should get agreement up front that unless it's a success, those responsible will resign!
I've forgotten how many times this junction has been toyed with over the last thirty or forty years. It never seems to work quite like it should. So, the council are out to "help" us again by changing this junction (Love to know the cost of this). Let's suspend disbelief and see how "helped" we feel once it's complete. Perhaps we should get agreement up front that unless it's a success, those responsible will resign! Landy44

4:29pm Fri 18 Jan 13

More Tea Vicar says...

Landy44 wrote:
I've forgotten how many times this junction has been toyed with over the last thirty or forty years. It never seems to work quite like it should.

So, the council are out to "help" us again by changing this junction (Love to know the cost of this). Let's suspend disbelief and see how "helped" we feel once it's complete.

Perhaps we should get agreement up front that unless it's a success, those responsible will resign!
Good point.

I actually think it's a good idea in principle, and can easily imagine that improved traffic lights would make a difference.

But looking at Whittington, or even the Aldi roundabout, I do find that 'improvement' is a very flexible term when used by the Council.
[quote][p][bold]Landy44[/bold] wrote: I've forgotten how many times this junction has been toyed with over the last thirty or forty years. It never seems to work quite like it should. So, the council are out to "help" us again by changing this junction (Love to know the cost of this). Let's suspend disbelief and see how "helped" we feel once it's complete. Perhaps we should get agreement up front that unless it's a success, those responsible will resign![/p][/quote]Good point. I actually think it's a good idea in principle, and can easily imagine that improved traffic lights would make a difference. But looking at Whittington, or even the Aldi roundabout, I do find that 'improvement' is a very flexible term when used by the Council. More Tea Vicar

6:06pm Fri 18 Jan 13

farmeralan1963 says...

I share the concerns about the end results of this forthcoming scheme. When you look at the Whittington roundabout, the Newtown Road bus lanes and the zebra crossing next to Asda for example, is it any wonder why we have no confidence in the competence of the highways department. The results of their supposed expertise is to make roads less safe. I fear this scheme will be no different.
I share the concerns about the end results of this forthcoming scheme. When you look at the Whittington roundabout, the Newtown Road bus lanes and the zebra crossing next to Asda for example, is it any wonder why we have no confidence in the competence of the highways department. The results of their supposed expertise is to make roads less safe. I fear this scheme will be no different. farmeralan1963

6:09pm Fri 18 Jan 13

farmeralan1963 says...

Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.
Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs. farmeralan1963

8:07pm Fri 18 Jan 13

The Doosra says...

farmeralan1963 wrote:
Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.
So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us.
[quote][p][bold]farmeralan1963[/bold] wrote: Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.[/p][/quote]So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us. The Doosra

11:13pm Fri 18 Jan 13

mr_wilson15 says...

Its roundabout time there, surely?
Its roundabout time there, surely? mr_wilson15

5:51pm Sat 19 Jan 13

Redhillman says...

Looks like we can expect another monumental error of judgement from the highways department, at great expense to the tax payer. I wonder if the temporary office will be staffed by a highways engineer, if so, at last, we can see who these people are and perhaps its an opportunity to hold them to account and question them about the general ineptitude emanating from their department.
Looks like we can expect another monumental error of judgement from the highways department, at great expense to the tax payer. I wonder if the temporary office will be staffed by a highways engineer, if so, at last, we can see who these people are and perhaps its an opportunity to hold them to account and question them about the general ineptitude emanating from their department. Redhillman

5:53pm Sat 19 Jan 13

Redhillman says...

The Doosra wrote:
farmeralan1963 wrote:
Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.
So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise 3 months is a long time, considering it look less time to do the roundabout at Whittington which needed new lanes constructing.
[quote][p][bold]The Doosra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farmeralan1963[/bold] wrote: Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.[/p][/quote]So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us.[/p][/quote]You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise 3 months is a long time, considering it look less time to do the roundabout at Whittington which needed new lanes constructing. Redhillman

6:19pm Sat 19 Jan 13

WilkoJ says...

This is going to end in disaster like every other scheme. We need to know who is responsible for the project so they can be held to account.
This is going to end in disaster like every other scheme. We need to know who is responsible for the project so they can be held to account. WilkoJ

7:40pm Sat 19 Jan 13

thompson9100 says...

Redhillman wrote:
The Doosra wrote:
farmeralan1963 wrote:
Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.
So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us.
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise 3 months is a long time, considering it look less time to do the roundabout at Whittington which needed new lanes constructing.
Less than 3 months? You must have q short memory! It took over 30 weeks, which by my maths is over 6 months!
I just hope they include work to better phase the lights on The Cross and Shaw Street junction, because they cause most of the problems round there.
[quote][p][bold]Redhillman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Doosra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]farmeralan1963[/bold] wrote: Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.[/p][/quote]So you're a highways engineer are you? Please share your knowledge with us.[/p][/quote]You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise 3 months is a long time, considering it look less time to do the roundabout at Whittington which needed new lanes constructing.[/p][/quote]Less than 3 months? You must have q short memory! It took over 30 weeks, which by my maths is over 6 months! I just hope they include work to better phase the lights on The Cross and Shaw Street junction, because they cause most of the problems round there. thompson9100

3:03am Sun 20 Jan 13

Jabbadad says...

The improvement just might work if as said the renewal of the traffic lights and for them to operate on demand. The most efficient ones I recall are the ones in Bilford Road by KFC, and those in Bath Road by Cheery Orchard, both of which are traffic sensitive and change quickly to need.
However I also feel that with Geraghty being involved there is some doubt, plus I am surprised that Simon knows where this junction is since when he was responsible for throwing the Disabled off St Swithun Street parking in favor of the taxis, he conveniently forgot in his calculations the existing Double Yellow lines that had been previously used by Blue Badge holders.
And no doubt we will get Yellow boxes since this is the new government cash cow to automatically issue Traffic Fine tickets for. One junction in London due to poor or intentional bad design, generating over a million pounds in fines over one year.
The improvement just might work if as said the renewal of the traffic lights and for them to operate on demand. The most efficient ones I recall are the ones in Bilford Road by KFC, and those in Bath Road by Cheery Orchard, both of which are traffic sensitive and change quickly to need. However I also feel that with Geraghty being involved there is some doubt, plus I am surprised that Simon knows where this junction is since when he was responsible for throwing the Disabled off St Swithun Street parking in favor of the taxis, he conveniently forgot in his calculations the existing Double Yellow lines that had been previously used by Blue Badge holders. And no doubt we will get Yellow boxes since this is the new government cash cow to automatically issue Traffic Fine tickets for. One junction in London due to poor or intentional bad design, generating over a million pounds in fines over one year. Jabbadad

11:05am Sun 20 Jan 13

The Doosra says...

farmeralan1963 wrote:
Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.
Presumably the private sector company who won the contract have determined how long it will take to complete the work.
[quote][p][bold]farmeralan1963[/bold] wrote: Also, if this project is taking 3 months, why not do it over the school summer holidays? And 3 months is an awfully long time just to swap over traffic lights and put in dropped kerbs.[/p][/quote]Presumably the private sector company who won the contract have determined how long it will take to complete the work. The Doosra

11:55am Sun 20 Jan 13

Jabbadad says...

And may I say that the latest traffic snarl ups around this area came with the work on the Asda Site and then the confusion over parking, which seems to continue because there are now frequent jams both ways which certainly didn't happen as often before.
And may I say that the latest traffic snarl ups around this area came with the work on the Asda Site and then the confusion over parking, which seems to continue because there are now frequent jams both ways which certainly didn't happen as often before. Jabbadad

12:09pm Sun 20 Jan 13

CJH says...

Of course if they completed the ring road there would be a lot less traffic needing to go through the city...
Of course if they completed the ring road there would be a lot less traffic needing to go through the city... CJH

12:51pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Jabbadad says...

Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the
By-passes but don't want one their side of the City.
Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the By-passes but don't want one their side of the City. Jabbadad

6:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13

More Tea Vicar says...

CJH wrote:
Of course if they completed the ring road there would be a lot less traffic needing to go through the city...
There's the question of the expense, and the loss of countryside.

And looking at the Newtown/Bromyard Road fiascos, it's difficult to trust the people involved with a major project.

They're just not up to it.
[quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Of course if they completed the ring road there would be a lot less traffic needing to go through the city...[/p][/quote]There's the question of the expense, and the loss of countryside. And looking at the Newtown/Bromyard Road fiascos, it's difficult to trust the people involved with a major project. They're just not up to it. More Tea Vicar

3:36pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Maggie Would says...

mr_wilson15 wrote:
Its roundabout time there, surely?
That's what I thought, mr_w, but the exits from a (theoretical) roundabout would never be clear in rush hour, especially up St Nicholas Street.
[quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: Its roundabout time there, surely?[/p][/quote]That's what I thought, mr_w, but the exits from a (theoretical) roundabout would never be clear in rush hour, especially up St Nicholas Street. Maggie Would

4:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13

mr_wilson15 says...

Jabbadad wrote:
Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the
By-passes but don't want one their side of the City.
Off he goes again. I propose an extension of City Wall's road which runs across the canal and through Mr Riaz's house on the London Road.
Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the By-passes but don't want one their side of the City.[/p][/quote]Off he goes again. I propose an extension of City Wall's road which runs across the canal and through Mr Riaz's house on the London Road. Cheers. mr_wilson15

4:31pm Wed 23 Jan 13

MrWXYZ says...

Be a tricky one to sort out, when it goes wrong round there its chaos.
They will have to be much smarter traffic lights than bath road, those side junctions are pretty quiet so that can function well off peak. This is a peak issue to resolve.
Although i agree on the completing the link road and/or doing something more substantial on the new bridge side. Lots of little fixes but the routes around town, and routes up to J7 have been outgrown by the number of vehicles in the city.
Be a tricky one to sort out, when it goes wrong round there its chaos. They will have to be much smarter traffic lights than bath road, those side junctions are pretty quiet so that can function well off peak. This is a peak issue to resolve. Although i agree on the completing the link road and/or doing something more substantial on the new bridge side. Lots of little fixes but the routes around town, and routes up to J7 have been outgrown by the number of vehicles in the city. MrWXYZ

5:27pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

The basic problem here is that with their dismal record of failure, many Worcester citizens have little faith in the County Council, and with Councillor Simon Geraghty involved the whole scheme has a mantle of failure already surrounding it.
The basic problem here is that with their dismal record of failure, many Worcester citizens have little faith in the County Council, and with Councillor Simon Geraghty involved the whole scheme has a mantle of failure already surrounding it. Lew Smoralz

5:30pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Lew Smoralz says...

mr_wilson15 wrote:
Jabbadad wrote:
Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the
By-passes but don't want one their side of the City.
Off he goes again. I propose an extension of City Wall's road which runs across the canal and through Mr Riaz's house on the London Road.
Cheers.
Son of William XV

With such reasoning you are obviously a prime candidate for the County Council!
[quote][p][bold]mr_wilson15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jabbadad[/bold] wrote: Here Here CJH we just have to convince Claines or ignore them and build this road which has been needed for the past 30 years. And I favor ignoring the principality of Claines since they are okay about using the rest of the By-passes but don't want one their side of the City.[/p][/quote]Off he goes again. I propose an extension of City Wall's road which runs across the canal and through Mr Riaz's house on the London Road. Cheers.[/p][/quote]Son of William XV With such reasoning you are obviously a prime candidate for the County Council! Lew Smoralz

6:19pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Jabbadad says...

mr_wilson15, suits me to send your political road through that house on London Road. No problem at all, just as long as it suits the Claines Principality.
mr_wilson15, suits me to send your political road through that house on London Road. No problem at all, just as long as it suits the Claines Principality. Jabbadad

8:12am Thu 24 Jan 13

Common Sense says...

The cost doesn't seem to be stated above, only as "part of a £14m strategy" for the area! (Council speak - their own private language!)

Even if this single contract costs, say, £2m, just for some lights and drop-kerbs, this should be put in perspective.

Every single day, we send £53m (that is million!) to Brussels for basically the French farmers to receive in benefits. Every day - Sundays included!

Think what we could do with the roads and hospitals with just one lot of £53m - never mind our 'contributions' for a week - or even a month!

No wonder we are broke!
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The cost doesn't seem to be stated above, only as "part of a £14m strategy" for the area! (Council speak - their own private language!) Even if this single contract costs, say, £2m, just for some lights and drop-kerbs, this should be put in perspective. Every single day, we send £53m (that is million!) to Brussels for basically the French farmers to receive in benefits. Every day - Sundays included! Think what we could do with the roads and hospitals with just one lot of £53m - never mind our 'contributions' for a week - or even a month! No wonder we are broke! ============== Common Sense

10:54am Thu 24 Jan 13

Guy66 says...

CJH wrote:
Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.
It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can!
[quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.[/p][/quote]It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can! Guy66

11:07am Thu 24 Jan 13

CJH says...

Guy66 wrote:
CJH wrote: Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.
It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can!
What a childish response Guy. Well done. Also well done on not seeing the 'No U Turn' sign which has been there for years, and years, and years. So not just stupid, but also illegal. Feel free to apologise.
[quote][p][bold]Guy66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.[/p][/quote]It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can![/p][/quote]What a childish response Guy. Well done. Also well done on not seeing the 'No U Turn' sign which has been there for years, and years, and years. So not just stupid, but also illegal. Feel free to apologise. CJH

1:44pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Jabbadad says...

I can't see the breathtakingly stupid label for a U turn at this spot when frequently there are times when there is no moving traffic from any direction, and if a driver is in complete control of the vehicle and turns at a reasonable speed. So the only problem is the signage prohibiting U Turns. and that's the law folks.
I can't see the breathtakingly stupid label for a U turn at this spot when frequently there are times when there is no moving traffic from any direction, and if a driver is in complete control of the vehicle and turns at a reasonable speed. So the only problem is the signage prohibiting U Turns. and that's the law folks. Jabbadad

3:33pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Maggie Would says...

CJH wrote:
Guy66 wrote:
CJH wrote: Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.
It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can!
What a childish response Guy. Well done. Also well done on not seeing the 'No U Turn' sign which has been there for years, and years, and years. So not just stupid, but also illegal. Feel free to apologise.
It's not as though the alternative to a U-turn add significantly to your journey - just a quick turn into Silver Street & pop back out onto City Walls Rd.
Doing a U-turn is just plain lazy. And illegal.
[quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guy66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CJH[/bold] wrote: Lost count of the number of times I've seen traffic to u-turns at that point in the photo to come back down the City Walls Road. Breathtakingly stupid.[/p][/quote]It's totally legal to make a U turn there - no signage to say no and it can be made without any impact on other road users - assuming the road is clear enough to execute the move.... I can't see the "Breathtakingly stupid" part at all . I bet your just upset some people can control a car better than you can![/p][/quote]What a childish response Guy. Well done. Also well done on not seeing the 'No U Turn' sign which has been there for years, and years, and years. So not just stupid, but also illegal. Feel free to apologise.[/p][/quote]It's not as though the alternative to a U-turn add significantly to your journey - just a quick turn into Silver Street & pop back out onto City Walls Rd. Doing a U-turn is just plain lazy. And illegal. Maggie Would

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