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Worcester Warriors stung by Goode's London Wasps move
11:32am Monday 4th March 2013 in Sport
By Tom Guest, @tomguestWN #WENsport
WASPS-BOUND: Warriors fly-half Andy Goode has signed for Aviva Premiership rivals Wasps.
WARRIORS fly-half Andy Goode is set to be unveiled as a Wasps player this week after agreeing terms on a switch to Adams Park.
The former England play-maker is poised to end his three-year stay at Sixways by moving to the Aviva Premiership high-fliers in the summer.
Goode will become the third Warriors player to quit Sixways for Wasps this season after the Wycombe-based outfit snapped up loosehead prop Matt Mullan and Goode’s number 10 rival Joe Carlisle.
As Warriors’ elected marquee player — a club’s top-earner whose wage can be discounted from the salary cap — it was difficult for Worcester to retain his services and it is believed he wasn’t even offered a deal to remain at Sixways.
Head coach Richard Hill revealed last week that he expects tighthead prop Euan Murray to be Worcester’s marquee player next season, ultimately forcing Goode to look to further his career elsewhere.
Meanwhile, following on from Worcester’s 29-23 bonus point win over Wasps on Friday night, Warriors now have a two-week mini-break from action before they face London Irish.
Hill believes the swatting of Wasps can be the launchpad for a strong finish to the campaign, which will be boosted by a number of players returning from injury.
He said: “The talk before the Wasps game was not about relegation — it was about hitting form. We have been working so hard and we just felt Friday was the night we put it all together.
“We hear some clubs saying their players are tired and battered, but we have got a very fit squad, they are all fresh. We have the likes of Ravai Fatiaki coming back for the London Irish game, while Chris Jones, Shaun Perry and Semisi Taulava will all be available.
“We have got people coming back, we are in good shape and this is the time to hit form. We are not thinking about tired bodies, we have managed people and we need to come good."
Hill was also quick to praise scrum-half Jonny Arr, who impressed against Wasps and scored the bonus point try, and replacement fly-half Danny Gray, who replaced the injured Goode and caught the eye.
The Warriors boss added: “Andy has had a dead leg. He picked it up against Gloucester and didn’t train all week. He said he was OK, played the first-half and did some good things, but clearly it wasn’t right and it got a bit messy at the start of the second-half.
“We brought Danny on and he stepped up to it.
“It was a little bit scary when he missed the kick in front of the posts, but he didn’t let it affect him and he hit some superb line-kicks into the corner to get our line-out going.
“Jonny really put his body on the line like he normally does. He is not the biggest of blokes but he absolutely gives 100 per cent in terms of physical commitment.”
Comments(26)
zx12r
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2:03pm Mon 4 Mar 13
Respectable
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3:54pm Mon 4 Mar 13
WS1991
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5:16pm Mon 4 Mar 13
All you post is negative tripe. 'More unnecessary churn in the squad'' OR maybe you could look at is as getting rid of a 33 year old who's taking up some serious £££ and replacing him with a young, hungry Argentinian in Mieres for probably much less money. Good(e) move by the club IMO. If you disagree with the club and what they do so much may I ask why do you spend your hard earned supporting them?
dulon
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6:35pm Mon 4 Mar 13
The win over Sarries a few months ago were supposed to be the 'new dawn ' of the warriors .... what happened then ? Get real , they are a long way off and wont get there with this bunch of coaches and management team .
Brummagem Bertie
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8:54pm Mon 4 Mar 13
A few weeks ago you were criticising Warriors for giving a new contract to Euan Murray (who is younger than Goode) whilst losing Matt Mullan (who is older than Mieres). You were also highly critical of the decision to sign Paul Warwick, implying he was past it, when he is also younger than Goode.
The only thing consistent about your ramblings is that they all criticise Warriors. Such is your desire to find fault that you have no problem with turning your own arguments on their head and completely contradicting yourself!
And the rumour that I had heard (and not from the club) was that Andy was offered a new contract but he and the club were so far apart in what each wanted that there was no chance of reaching agreement.
dulon, Andy has done a lot of good stuff but he has also produced some complete dross. His place kicking has been inconsistent at times and some of his passing has been well below what someone of his standing should produce. For every moment of brilliance, like the kick for Lemi's try on Friday, there can be a moment of madness, such as the terrible cross-field kick against Glaws, which wasted a certain 3 points from a penalty in front of the posts. He has also clearly not followed the game plan at times.
As for failures of management, I would say that getting relegated was a failure of management. Getting us promoted straight back to the Prem and then keeping us there, don't come close.
WS1991
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12:18am Tue 5 Mar 13
If you would rather keep a 33 year old overweight fly half on the highest wage at the club rather than bringing in a 25 year old Argentine who was a key player in getting Exeter Heineken Cup rugby and is looking to break into his national side and prove himself then i'll have some of whatever you've been on. Goode is only going to deteriorate from now on, Meires will only get better.
Respectable
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7:49am Tue 5 Mar 13
WS1991 wrote:If you read the other Warriors articles I think you'll find I have commented on Friday nights game.
Respectable you seem to comment on Warriors articles an awful lot, why haven't you commented on the ''Warriors vs Wasps'' or ''Warriors evolution starting to take place''? Is it because you can't bare the fact that the club deserve some praise for their performance on Friday night?
All you post is negative tripe. 'More unnecessary churn in the squad'' OR maybe you could look at is as getting rid of a 33 year old who's taking up some serious £££ and replacing him with a young, hungry Argentinian in Mieres for probably much less money. Good(e) move by the club IMO. If you disagree with the club and what they do so much may I ask why do you spend your hard earned supporting them?
I comment because I give a s***
My comments are fuelled by frustration at the lack of progress over recent years. A meteoric rise to National Division 1 some years ago and dour seasons ever since because of our boards strategy.
If you think one win, albeit a good one is the start of the revolution I fear you are very much mistaken.
I think Wasp's might know what they are doing given the size of their trophy cabinet compared to ours.
If you don't like my posts then don't read them. Simples.
WS1991
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10:23am Tue 5 Mar 13
2- Yes, we had quick and meteoric rise through to ND1. That doesn't mean we are entitled to success in the prem. We now playing against the 'big boys' who won't just get pushed over. It will take time. Admittidley we've had some poor mis-management (Rudduck) but Hill looks to be on the right track.
3- We have only had 'dour' seasons under Rudduck, and there was only 1 and a half of them. Brain (RIP) was very successful.
4- Didn't once say Friday's win was revolutionary so stop putting words into my mouth. But it was a good win against (as you say) a team with a sizable trophy cabinet.
5- I wish I didn't have to read your posts- but I like commenting on these articles too and think it right to read the previous comments, and yours are unfortunately usually there.
6- I'll ask you again as you didn't seem to answer it... Why, if you disagree with the club and they annoy youso much that the club does do you spend your hard earned money/time watching them?
dulon
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10:37am Tue 5 Mar 13
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ent . Last year produced some good results compared to this year . It might be said that the coach has a plan . I wish that I could understand why a downturn in results and morale/player retention as a GOOD plan . A quick look on wiki is also interesting to compare the player turnover . And it might be interesting to note the consequent success of some former players .
Respectable
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10:42am Tue 5 Mar 13
ERRR.. YES I DID. CHECK IT AGAIN IF IT'S THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU.
2- Yes, we had quick and meteoric rise through to ND1. That doesn't mean we are entitled to success in the prem. We now playing against the 'big boys' who won't just get pushed over. It will take time. Admittidley we've had some poor mis-management (Rudduck) but Hill looks to be on the right track. AND HOW LONG EXACTLY HAVE WE BEEN PLAYING WITH THE BIG BOYS. NOT AS LONG AS EXETER. WHAT HAS BEEN OUR HIGHEST FINISHING POSITION IN NEARLY 10 YEARS EXCLUDING RELEGATION OF COURSE
3- We have only had 'dour' seasons under Rudduck, and there was only 1 and a half of them. Brain (RIP) was very successful. WHAT ? AGAIN, HIGHEST LEAGUE POSITION ?
4- Didn't once say Friday's win was revolutionary so stop putting words into my mouth. But it was a good win against (as you say) a team with a sizable trophy cabinet.I DIDN'T PUT ANY WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. A 5 POINT WIN IS GREAT FOR ANY CLUB. WHY DON'T WE GET MORE ?
5- I wish I didn't have to read your posts- but I like commenting on these articles too and think it right to read the previous comments, and yours are unfortunately usually there.I IGNORE YOUR DRIVEL. IGNORE MINE. SINCE WHEN HAS SPORT NOT BEEN A DEBATABLE SUBJECT
6- I'll ask you again as you didn't seem to answer it... Why, if you disagree with the club and they annoy youso much that the club does do you spend your hard earned money/time watching them? BECAUSE I WANT THIS CLUB TO HAVE MORE SUCCESS . IF I'M FRUSTRATED THAT SUGGESTS A LEVEL OF PASSION.
NOW THERE YOU GO. I WILL EXPLAIN MYSELF NO FURTHER TO YOU. I WILL CONTINUE TO COMMENT, AS MANY PEOPLE DO ON THE FANS FORUM, AS I SEE FIT. LEARN TO ACCEPT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERING OPINION OR DON'T . I REALLY DON'T CARE EITHER WAY. UNTIL I SEE US SERIOUS PUSHING FOR TOP 6 AND STRINGING TOGETHER GOOD PERFORMANCES HOME AND AWAY IN ALL COMPETITIONS I WILL CONTINUE TO REGISTER MY DISSATISFACTION.
WORCESTER ARE NO LONGER THE NEW BOYS OF THE PREM. WE SHOULD STOP ACTING LIKE IT BY GETTING THE COACHING STAFF AND BOARD ROOM WORKING PROPERLY...
Respectable
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10:51am Tue 5 Mar 13
LOOK UNDER NEWS ITEM TITLED WORCESTER 29 WASPS 23.
COPY AN PASTE AS CLEARLY TOO HARD TO LOOK PROPERLY.
END OF CHAT..
Respectable says...
10:48am Mon 4 Mar 13
dulon wrote:
Depleted Wasps side and under pressure warriors . If they had lost again would Hill have a job this morning ?
I am genuinely pleased for the side ,but, I still have severe doubts about the ability of the coaching and management team , There are more games to come yet and the competition will not get any weaker .
Dont forget the appalling performances that preceded this triumph .
Spot on.
Being branded whingers is a bit of a p*** take. Wonder if someone from the club posted that ?
The club is still deeply dysfunctional and one win ?
Well it was a great effort and made for an enjoyable Friday eve but there is much work to be done to avoid a dire 2013 / 2014 season and beyond.
Respectable
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12:02pm Tue 5 Mar 13
A QUOTE FROM RICHARD HILL HIMSELF IN THE ARTICLE REFERING TO WARRIORS EVOLUTION
The paying public want to be entertained and the crowds at Sixways will only return to the 12,000s when the team is playing attractive rugby and winning games on a regular basis.
YOU GONNA TELL THE MAIN MAN HE'S WRONG AS WELL ?
WS1991
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12:17pm Tue 5 Mar 13
WS1991
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12:23pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Respectable
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12:37pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Get ya head back in your bucket of sand.
Can you please answer my questions as I did yours ?
WS1991
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12:52pm Tue 5 Mar 13
WHAT ? AGAIN, HIGHEST LEAGUE POSITION ? (regarding Brain being successful)
Answer: OK, so later on in your post you refer to us as not being newbies anymore. Unfortunately for your argument regarding Brains success-fullness we were the new boys under Brain, and he led us to 9th, 8th and 11th. Now if that isn't a successful period in our first 3 seasons of the premiership then you are extremely deluded/ disrespectful (ironic) to the quality of the league.
A 5 POINT WIN IS GREAT FOR ANY CLUB. WHY DON'T WE GET MORE?
Answer: Because unfortunately we are not in the top 7/8 teams in the league. However, we are drastically improving and we have seen us score 4+ tries three times in the prem so far this season. More than any other. An obvious drastic improvement on previous seasons.
YOU GONNA TELL THE MAIN MAN HE'S WRONG AS WELL?
Answer: Don't have the foggiest what you're going on about here. Can't tell what you're trying to get at.
Respectable
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1:02pm Tue 5 Mar 13
You don't know what I'm on about because you haven't read all of the other news articles in the sports section.
I think it took you too long to google search the other answer so will leave it there..
Nice chat . Look forward to the next one.. Now back to school.
WS1991
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1:09pm Tue 5 Mar 13
WS1991
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1:10pm Tue 5 Mar 13
zx12r
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1:20pm Tue 5 Mar 13
More power to your elbow.
Talking to a friend over the weekend whose company has 7 season tickets, who will not be renewing them next year. Why? (his words) we are getting rid of our better players & just replacing them with cheap 'gap fillers'
This guy Brummie, played for Worcester many years ago & is passionate about the club.
When it comes to fly halfs I hope the faithful saw Exeter's Mr Steenson take apart Sarries, not seen that sort of quality at Worcester since Shane Drahm left.
Respectable
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1:20pm Tue 5 Mar 13
You can't give it the big one and then get all offended when you get some back. If you raise the stakes this is what happens.
How was I supposed to know how old you are ?
Like I said earlier. Since when was it not acceptable to debate sport ?
To be fair.. You can call me what you like. I think however you should show Andy Goode a bit more respect than calling him a fat 33 year old. The guys played at the higest level for domestic club and country and showed Worcester an enormous amount of commitment. Without his influence over the last three years where would OUR club be now ?
Brummagem Bertie
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9:19pm Tue 5 Mar 13
And if you are talking about Gareth Steenson's performance at the weekend, that would be Quins, not Sarries. I just hope that Quins tackle just as well when they come to Sixways in a couple of weeks time.
zx12r
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3:41pm Wed 6 Mar 13
Just one little correction for you. Some time ago you said :- We pinched Andrew Stanley from Gloucester & he was only returning home, Sorry chum, he came to Worcester from Hartpury College, who I shall be watching Saturday take on Redruth in Cornwall.
Brummagem Bertie
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8:56pm Wed 6 Mar 13
And that would be the Andrew Stanley that played over 200 times for Glaws before becoming DoR at Hartpury.
Like I said, just going home.
Officer Nordburg
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1:50pm Thu 7 Mar 13
rhysthsmith
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3:31pm Thu 7 Mar 13
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