Offside means offside

Worcester News: Offside means offside Offside means offside

FOLLOWING the controversial disallowing of Cheick Tiote’s strike for Newcastle United against Manchester City, is it now time to go back to basics when it comes to offside?

For those who missed it, Tiote arrowed a left-foot screamer past Joe Hart from around 25 yards at St James’ Park, beating the England keeper all ends up.

But the effort was chalked off because Yoan Gouffran, one of two Newcastle United players standing in an offside position, was ruled to be interfering with play as he moved out of the way of the ball.

Referee Mike Jones made the call after consulting with his assistant who, crucially, had not flagged for an infringement in the first place.

The incident has once again brought into question the issue of when a player is or isn’t deemed to be affecting play by being offside.

Ever since the introduction of players being “active” during first or second phases of play, offside decisions have been ridiculously overcomplicated.

In addition, they have also become subjective as while Jones ruled in favour of Manchester City, a different referee might have let the goal stand.

If Sunday’s controversial match proved anything, it’s that there needs to be a return to the old rule — offside means offside, active or not.

At least teams and supporters would know where they stand, quite literally.

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1:05pm Tue 14 Jan 14

disgusted with local F.A says...

Sorry Steve but you are talking rubbish(maybe you need to watch more football than the Tripe you watch every Saturday)Mr Jones lost his bottle because the money men were playing.in all my years of watching football have I been so disgruntled with the standard of refs this weekend,we all moan about footballers earning vast amounts of money and being a bunch of divers etc but full time refs are paid a vast amount of money to do their job and fail most weekends,its about time they done the job what they are paid to do and if you want to take it to the extreme then why does it have to be one rule for professional football and one for weekend amateur football when all is supposed to be governed by the English football association how I would love a ten minute interview with the powers that be to ask certain questions but I doubt I will ever get the opportunity as I am just a mere member of the public who just doesn't understand(sarcastic
)
Sorry Steve but you are talking rubbish(maybe you need to watch more football than the Tripe you watch every Saturday)Mr Jones lost his bottle because the money men were playing.in all my years of watching football have I been so disgruntled with the standard of refs this weekend,we all moan about footballers earning vast amounts of money and being a bunch of divers etc but full time refs are paid a vast amount of money to do their job and fail most weekends,its about time they done the job what they are paid to do and if you want to take it to the extreme then why does it have to be one rule for professional football and one for weekend amateur football when all is supposed to be governed by the English football association how I would love a ten minute interview with the powers that be to ask certain questions but I doubt I will ever get the opportunity as I am just a mere member of the public who just doesn't understand(sarcastic ) disgusted with local F.A
  • Score: 6

1:20pm Tue 14 Jan 14

steve carley says...

What does this have to do with changing the offside rule?
What does this have to do with changing the offside rule? steve carley
  • Score: -8

2:43pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Samboy says...

The current offside law is a mockery. The player, by his position was a distraction to the goalkeeper and moving made it worse. If somebody moved within the peripheral vision of a snooker player as he took a shot that would be distracting and so is moving about at the side of the goalkeeper.
The current offside law is a mockery. The player, by his position was a distraction to the goalkeeper and moving made it worse. If somebody moved within the peripheral vision of a snooker player as he took a shot that would be distracting and so is moving about at the side of the goalkeeper. Samboy
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Doogie 46 says...

Correct me if I`m wrong, but the rule hasn`t been changed - it`s just that referees were ordered to interpret offside in a manner which gave maximum advantage to the attacking side resulting in less goals being being disallowed. Under the old simple interpretation the goal would have been cancelled out because three Newcastle players were behind the opposing defence. Under the current interpretation the goal should have stood because the goalkeeper`s own defenders were the ones interfering with his view and the referee was in the perfect position to see that.
However, I do think that had the goal been scored against Norwich or Fulham (for example) rather than Manchester City it may well have been allowed to stand - if there`s a chance of currying favour with the rich and powerful clubs the officials seem to take it.
Correct me if I`m wrong, but the rule hasn`t been changed - it`s just that referees were ordered to interpret offside in a manner which gave maximum advantage to the attacking side resulting in less goals being being disallowed. Under the old simple interpretation the goal would have been cancelled out because three Newcastle players were behind the opposing defence. Under the current interpretation the goal should have stood because the goalkeeper`s own defenders were the ones interfering with his view and the referee was in the perfect position to see that. However, I do think that had the goal been scored against Norwich or Fulham (for example) rather than Manchester City it may well have been allowed to stand - if there`s a chance of currying favour with the rich and powerful clubs the officials seem to take it. Doogie 46
  • Score: 5

10:59am Wed 15 Jan 14

High Time says...

disgusted with local F.A wrote:
Sorry Steve but you are talking rubbish(maybe you need to watch more football than the Tripe you watch every Saturday)Mr Jones lost his bottle because the money men were playing.in all my years of watching football have I been so disgruntled with the standard of refs this weekend,we all moan about footballers earning vast amounts of money and being a bunch of divers etc but full time refs are paid a vast amount of money to do their job and fail most weekends,its about time they done the job what they are paid to do and if you want to take it to the extreme then why does it have to be one rule for professional football and one for weekend amateur football when all is supposed to be governed by the English football association how I would love a ten minute interview with the powers that be to ask certain questions but I doubt I will ever get the opportunity as I am just a mere member of the public who just doesn't understand(sarcastic

)
And your thoughts on the offside rule is?????
[quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: Sorry Steve but you are talking rubbish(maybe you need to watch more football than the Tripe you watch every Saturday)Mr Jones lost his bottle because the money men were playing.in all my years of watching football have I been so disgruntled with the standard of refs this weekend,we all moan about footballers earning vast amounts of money and being a bunch of divers etc but full time refs are paid a vast amount of money to do their job and fail most weekends,its about time they done the job what they are paid to do and if you want to take it to the extreme then why does it have to be one rule for professional football and one for weekend amateur football when all is supposed to be governed by the English football association how I would love a ten minute interview with the powers that be to ask certain questions but I doubt I will ever get the opportunity as I am just a mere member of the public who just doesn't understand(sarcastic )[/p][/quote]And your thoughts on the offside rule is????? High Time
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Wed 15 Jan 14

disgusted with local F.A says...

As it happens it has nothing to do with the offside rule just the incompetence of so called professional referees if the teams involved were lower league we wouldn't even be having this discussion
As it happens it has nothing to do with the offside rule just the incompetence of so called professional referees if the teams involved were lower league we wouldn't even be having this discussion disgusted with local F.A
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Wed 15 Jan 14

Carthaginian says...

disgusted with local F.A wrote:
As it happens it has nothing to do with the offside rule just the incompetence of so called professional referees if the teams involved were lower league we wouldn't even be having this discussion
Why? Are the officials not incompetent at lower leagues? Local fans discuss such decisions by officials in the matches they watch as much as Premier League fans do.

What seemed most noteworthy about this incident was that the linesman didn't flag for offside, until protests came from Joe Hart.
[quote][p][bold]disgusted with local F.A[/bold] wrote: As it happens it has nothing to do with the offside rule just the incompetence of so called professional referees if the teams involved were lower league we wouldn't even be having this discussion[/p][/quote]Why? Are the officials not incompetent at lower leagues? Local fans discuss such decisions by officials in the matches they watch as much as Premier League fans do. What seemed most noteworthy about this incident was that the linesman didn't flag for offside, until protests came from Joe Hart. Carthaginian
  • Score: 1

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