Dean Ryan: Lamb may not figure at Saints

Ryan Lamb, pictured in action against Worcester Warriors' Sam Betty (left) and Ignacio Mieres at Welford Road last September, may not make his debut against Northampton on Saturday.

Ryan Lamb, pictured in action against Worcester Warriors' Sam Betty (left) and Ignacio Mieres at Welford Road last September, may not make his debut against Northampton on Saturday.

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NEW signing Ryan Lamb is not certain to make his Worcester Warriors debut at Northampton Saints on Saturday (3pm).

The 27-year-old fly-half has signed an undisclosed long-term contract at Sixways after making the switch from defending Aviva Premiership champions Leicester Tigers.

But director of rugby Dean Ryan, who worked with the player during his tenure at Gloucester, says Lamb may have to bide his time.

Ryan wants to keep faith with the bulk of the team who ran Tigers so close last Friday in a 23-22 loss and is hoping his new recruit can inspire the likes of Paul Warwick and Ignacio Mieres to greater performances.

The Warriors boss said: “Ryan’s in contention because he’s here, fit and desperate to play - that’s why he came here.

“But I don’t think we’re at a stage where we need to do that (play him) just yet. It would be disrespectful to what went on last Friday. He needs to understand what’s going on and then we’ll create an opportunity.

“The short-term issue around Ryan is about providing some sort of response. I’m not overly worried who that is, so we don’t have to go to Ryan if there’s a response from Paul and Mieres.

“We’re looking to drop him in the mix and see who else reacts and plays better. It’s not been an area where we’ve been clear about who’s number one.

“If we get the response we want, then we’ll stay with that. If we don’t, then we’ll look at managing change.”

Ryan continued: “The drop-off can be quite significant if we start making changes so, within reason, we’ll be reasonably close to that group (from Friday).

“If people can push hard to get into selection, then fine, but a lot of people did themselves some credit on Friday so deserve to roll again if fresh.”

While Lamb could yet play a major role in Warriors’ bid to avoid relegation, his director of rugby also has one eye on the future.

Ryan explained: “Here and now, it offers something different for us but, more importantly, the decision was always framed around him being here in the future.

“He’s a quality English 10. He was frustrated by a lack of game-time at Leicester but we’re not Leicester, we’re looking for some inspiration.

“The opportunity to drop him in straight away was taken but, if you look at the next two or three years, it strengthens our fly-half resources.

"I’d love him to be part of the catalyst for taking this club through the next few years.”

Meanwhile, tighthead prop Euan Murray is back in light training as he steps up his recovery from a long-standing Achilles injury and the cut hand he suffered while chopping wood with an axe at a team barbecue last month.

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10:37am Wed 12 Feb 14

dulon says...

Well the manager has recognised the shortage of an inspirational figure . Although I had heard that Mieres can be inspirational it might not necessarily be on the pitch ! Hopefully this performance against the Tigers will roll on to the next few games opposition permitting there are probably 3 games where they might be able to sort out the right result .....good luck to them .
Well the manager has recognised the shortage of an inspirational figure . Although I had heard that Mieres can be inspirational it might not necessarily be on the pitch ! Hopefully this performance against the Tigers will roll on to the next few games opposition permitting there are probably 3 games where they might be able to sort out the right result .....good luck to them . dulon
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10:50am Wed 12 Feb 14

One or Two says...

Was Friday's performance a result of the threat that Mr. Lamb was on the way? I doubt it, it was probably the shame of the Exeter game performance.

Sadly Paul Warwick and Ignacio Mieres have for whatever reason NOT been able to perform to their true potential, just check the win column.

In my "ignorant" opinion Ryan Lamb cannot be given a gentle "bedding in" into the team we need him to hit the ground running and winning.

But then again, what do I know, I just spend my money on the team as a humble season ticket holder and merchandise purchaser.
Was Friday's performance a result of the threat that Mr. Lamb was on the way? I doubt it, it was probably the shame of the Exeter game performance. Sadly Paul Warwick and Ignacio Mieres have for whatever reason NOT been able to perform to their true potential, just check the win column. In my "ignorant" opinion Ryan Lamb cannot be given a gentle "bedding in" into the team we need him to hit the ground running and winning. But then again, what do I know, I just spend my money on the team as a humble season ticket holder and merchandise purchaser. One or Two
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12:31pm Wed 12 Feb 14

amvarmalc says...

One or Two wrote:
Was Friday's performance a result of the threat that Mr. Lamb was on the way? I doubt it, it was probably the shame of the Exeter game performance.

Sadly Paul Warwick and Ignacio Mieres have for whatever reason NOT been able to perform to their true potential, just check the win column.

In my "ignorant" opinion Ryan Lamb cannot be given a gentle "bedding in" into the team we need him to hit the ground running and winning.

But then again, what do I know, I just spend my money on the team as a humble season ticket holder and merchandise purchaser.
I have to agree with you 'One or Two' , it was really only the fact that Chris Pennell was kicking that kept us in the game - surely we need Lamb to go straight in?
We've not seen a decent 10 performance all season with the current two! Why shold things change overnight?
Give Lamb a chance to show what he can do I say, he cant be any worse!
[quote][p][bold]One or Two[/bold] wrote: Was Friday's performance a result of the threat that Mr. Lamb was on the way? I doubt it, it was probably the shame of the Exeter game performance. Sadly Paul Warwick and Ignacio Mieres have for whatever reason NOT been able to perform to their true potential, just check the win column. In my "ignorant" opinion Ryan Lamb cannot be given a gentle "bedding in" into the team we need him to hit the ground running and winning. But then again, what do I know, I just spend my money on the team as a humble season ticket holder and merchandise purchaser.[/p][/quote]I have to agree with you 'One or Two' , it was really only the fact that Chris Pennell was kicking that kept us in the game - surely we need Lamb to go straight in? We've not seen a decent 10 performance all season with the current two! Why shold things change overnight? Give Lamb a chance to show what he can do I say, he cant be any worse! amvarmalc
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3:32pm Wed 12 Feb 14

zx12r says...

Have I missed something here, this guy has come here due to lack of game time at Leicester, so Ryan intends to stick with the two munchkins we have.
Mr Lamb is 27, not 21. Yes he has a few years to go but not playing him will not extend his career.
We have to win three more games than Newcastle. With our two present No 10's, not a prayer, with Lamb maybe a 100 to 1 shot. Grab it Mr Ryan while you can.
Have I missed something here, this guy has come here due to lack of game time at Leicester, so Ryan intends to stick with the two munchkins we have. Mr Lamb is 27, not 21. Yes he has a few years to go but not playing him will not extend his career. We have to win three more games than Newcastle. With our two present No 10's, not a prayer, with Lamb maybe a 100 to 1 shot. Grab it Mr Ryan while you can. zx12r
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5:25pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Officer Nordburg says...

One poor pass aside Warwick had a good game at 10 on Friday night I see no reason to change the starting team except for injuries. Ryan should probably have a place on the bench but no more.
One poor pass aside Warwick had a good game at 10 on Friday night I see no reason to change the starting team except for injuries. Ryan should probably have a place on the bench but no more. Officer Nordburg
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10:07pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Brummagem Bertie says...

It's a dfficult one, but 10 is a key position and good as Lamb is he needs more than a couple of days to pick up the plays and slot into the team. Besides, what sort of message does it send about the culture that Ryan is trying to build if he were to drop a new signing straight into the starting 15 when the team has just delivered a great performance?

Let Lamb press his case in training: if he performs better than the others there then he earns the right to start.
It's a dfficult one, but 10 is a key position and good as Lamb is he needs more than a couple of days to pick up the plays and slot into the team. Besides, what sort of message does it send about the culture that Ryan is trying to build if he were to drop a new signing straight into the starting 15 when the team has just delivered a great performance? Let Lamb press his case in training: if he performs better than the others there then he earns the right to start. Brummagem Bertie
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6:26am Thu 13 Feb 14

Wobbly Warrior says...

More crass management speak from Dean Ryan. You've lost 13 times on the trot Dean. You also lost to Leicester ... What exactly is your philosophy 'never change a losing side'? Get the team sorted or resign.
More crass management speak from Dean Ryan. You've lost 13 times on the trot Dean. You also lost to Leicester ... What exactly is your philosophy 'never change a losing side'? Get the team sorted or resign. Wobbly Warrior
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10:32am Thu 13 Feb 14

zx12r says...

Have I missed something else, did we win last Friday then.
Have I missed something else, did we win last Friday then. zx12r
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6:48pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Brummagem Bertie says...

No, we didn't win last Friday and I cannot see that anyone has suggested we did, so yes, you have missed something else, zx. No change there then.

Wobbly, given the changes that Ryan made for the Leicester game, and that we have hardly played the same team two weeks running, Ryan's philosophy clearly is not 'never change a losing side'.

Change for change's sake is not the answer either. You have to believe that the player coming in is going to be better than the one they are replacing. Yes, Warwick threw an interception, but he had a good game otherwise.

Lamb has only played 70 minutes of rugby this year (during which he also threw an intercepted pass for a try). He probably isn't match fit and with only a couple of days to train with the team is not likely to be able to learn all the plays or develop a good understanding with his 9 and 12.

We are also playing Saints at the weekend, who Lamb played for only last season. They will know his weaknesses and would target him relentlessly. Making a debut for a new team involves enough pressure and it might be asking for trouble to add to that.

On that basis he probably is not going to be better than what we have, at the moment.
No, we didn't win last Friday and I cannot see that anyone has suggested we did, so yes, you have missed something else, zx. No change there then. Wobbly, given the changes that Ryan made for the Leicester game, and that we have hardly played the same team two weeks running, Ryan's philosophy clearly is not 'never change a losing side'. Change for change's sake is not the answer either. You have to believe that the player coming in is going to be better than the one they are replacing. Yes, Warwick threw an interception, but he had a good game otherwise. Lamb has only played 70 minutes of rugby this year (during which he also threw an intercepted pass for a try). He probably isn't match fit and with only a couple of days to train with the team is not likely to be able to learn all the plays or develop a good understanding with his 9 and 12. We are also playing Saints at the weekend, who Lamb played for only last season. They will know his weaknesses and would target him relentlessly. Making a debut for a new team involves enough pressure and it might be asking for trouble to add to that. On that basis he probably is not going to be better than what we have, at the moment. Brummagem Bertie
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1:34pm Fri 14 Feb 14

zx12r says...

Bertie, I was only taking the p......, even I cannot be serious all the time, especially with the comedians at Sadways.
Bertie, I was only taking the p......, even I cannot be serious all the time, especially with the comedians at Sadways. zx12r
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